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Selling properties with mortgages

  • 17-07-2013 1:51pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭


    If a property has a value of say €250k, but also has a mortgage secured upon it of €150k, how would this typically be dealt with on sale from a CGT perspective if the buyer was taking on the mortgage from the seller?

    Are the property value and mortgage amount offset again each other leaving €100k gain, and this is charged? Or are they seen somehow as two different transactions?

    This example is entirely hypothetical and anyone considering such a transaction should seek professional advice. Seems to be lots of info on this type of thing in places like the States, but much less so here.

    Any ideas?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    The mortgage has nothing to do with CGT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭summereire


    Valetta wrote: »
    The mortgage has nothing to do with CGT.

    Thanks, in that case if a debt is passed from one person to another are there implications for that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Citizenpain


    summereire wrote: »
    Thanks, in that case if a debt is passed from one person to another are there implications for that?
    I imagine CAT would apply to the person whose debt was taken on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Gaillimh1976


    CGT would be based on the sale price versus the original purchase price

    So if you bought for 200 and sold for 250 you would pay tax on the 50

    Also AFAIK your family home is exempt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    I'm not sure what you mean by a debt being "passed on"?

    If there is a mortgage on the house and you want to sell it, as soon as it is sold the mortgage must be cleared.

    The buyers arrangements regarding taking out a mortgage are completely separate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭summereire


    Valetta wrote: »
    I'm not sure what you mean by a debt being "passed on"?

    If there is a mortgage on the house and you want to sell it, as soon as it is sold the mortgage must be cleared.

    The buyers arrangements regarding taking out a mortgage are completely separate.

    Yes I'm talking about a situation where the buyer takes on the mortgage on purchase of the property. This is more common in places like the States from what I can see. Maybe an analogy for it would be buying a business that has assets (the building) and debts (the mortgage).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭summereire


    I imagine CAT would apply to the person whose debt was taken on

    Yes that seems likely. I'm wondering then if they're both seen as essentially separate events, the transfer of the mortgage, and the transfer of the property, or if they relate to each other or offset as in the above example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Alan Shore


    Ban pending for everyone involved read the charter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    This example is entirely hypothetical and anyone considering such a transaction should seek professional advice

    Bingo.

    Thread closed


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