Scanning

stanflt

Anyone scan yet

Scanning tomorrow evening- 150 to do

Can't wait

If I get a good scan ill have a ci of 365 days and delivering 9200 litre per cow in a winter milk system-

delaval

stanflt wrote: »

Anyone scan yet

Scanning tomorrow evening- 150 to do

Can't wait

If I get a good scan ill have a ci of 365 days and delivering 9200 litre per cow in a winter milk system-

That would be a great performance. Can't beat attention to detail!!
Let us know how it goes

stanflt

delaval wrote: »

That would be a great performance. Can't beat attention to detail!!
Let us know how it goes

2/3 of them already scanned but doing them again because I want to see was their many embryo losses-

Going forward...

Will leave it for a forthnight I think. Had a run of repeats last week, cows done 7-8 weeks ago. Settled down again thankfully.

stanflt wrote: »

If I get a good scan ill have a ci of 365 days and delivering 9200 litre per cow in a winter milk system-

Self praise is no praise.;)

bob charles

Going forward... wrote: »

Self praise is no praise.;)

A pat on the back is only a couple of inches away, from being a kick in the arse

mahoney_j

bob charles wrote: »

A pat on the back is only a couple of inches away, from being a kick in the arse

Serious performance stan both from fertility and production point of view,just goes to show that with good attention to detail Holsteins will last in a herd and absolutely no need to go screwing it all up by x breeding!!!!!?

stanflt

scanned 104 cows

3 empty in calf over 28days:):):)


however scanned 30 heifers 9 empty

delaval

stanflt wrote: »

scanned 104 cows

3 empty in calf over 28days:):):)


however scanned 30 heifers 9 empty

Great results for cows

Were you in Sexed semen trial for heifers by any cance?

Muckit

stanflt wrote: »

scanned 104 cows

3 empty in calf over 28days:):):)


however scanned 30 heifers 9 empty

Will you run a bull with the heifers to mop up? Or bye bye for them??

stanflt

Muckit wrote: »

Will you run a bull with the heifers to mop up? Or bye bye for them??

Bull already with them so they are prob in calf- I scan all at 30 days so if they repeat they could already be 10 days in calf

just do it

stanflt wrote: »

Bull already with them so they are prob in calf- I scan all at 30 days so if they repeat they could already be 10 days in calf

Do you re-scan all of them or just those that were empty?

dar31

stan
was the 3 empties from the whole milking herd or just the 104 that was scanned on the day.
excellent result if so, did selective selling have any influence on the result.

done some of ours last week will post up later,

stanflt

dar31 wrote: »

stan
was the 3 empties from the whole milking herd or just the 104 that was scanned on the day.
excellent result if so, did selective selling have any influence on the result.

done some of ours last week will post up later,

Yeah only 3 for the whole herd- only sold the low fertility index cows and daughters of cows that had a 400 plus calving interval

delaval

stanflt wrote: »

Yeah only 3 for the whole herd- only sold the low fertility index cows and daughters of cows that had a 400 plus calving interval

I presume you are not including winter milkers?
I also presume that you have no carry overs or will you carry over the few empties?
We sell our autumn calvers as they are the ones we carry over. We carried over because we were building numbers, it's something under review at the moment. We will scan after holidays.

Timmaay

Stan what is your average herd fertility subindex? Very impressive fertility figure from such high yielding ladies, I think I will need to be much more selective moving forward about which cows to breed from.

Also, have you always been as selective with breeding replacements, and culling/selling the high CI ladies? Or is this the 1st year you have been religious about the CI?

stanflt

delaval wrote: »

I presume you are not including winter milkers?
I also presume that you have no carry overs or will you carry over the few empties?
We sell our autumn calvers as they are the ones we carry over. We carried over because we were building numbers, it's something under review at the moment. We will scan after holidays.

winter milkers included one of the empties was a heifer that was scanned in calf an due in october- she will get gate when she drops below 25litres a day- i scan everything to be sure to be sure

stanflt

Timmaay wrote: »

Stan what is your average herd fertility subindex? Very impressive fertility figure from such high yielding ladies, I think I will need to be much more selective moving forward about which cows to breed from.

Also, have you always been as selective with breeding replacements, and culling/selling the high CI ladies? Or is this the 1st year you have been religious about the CI?

sub index 63
first year being selective

Timmaay

stanflt wrote: »

sub index 63
first year being selective

Interesting, I'm not far behind you at 61. No excuse not to sort out our CI also!

case 5150

scanning in the morn let ye no how i get on

Timmaay

Scanned the rest of the spring calvers today. In total, 8 out of 46 cows empty, this wasn't unexpected, 6 of them calved down in may/june this year, and I only gave them one or 2 chances before letting them slip around. The other 2 calved last feb. Both have fairly decent yields (7kL 305day), so should milk on fine if I managed to get them incalf now, however they have been served 3/4 times already. Is it even worth the effort by now? I'll let them out to the bull if they do showup, save the cost of AI at least.

Heifers were abit disappointing, 7 empty out of 20. Had seen afew bulling, but wasnt expecting it to be that bad. So back in with the Estimate now, and get them to calf down next autumn, two will be 3yrs old, the rest about 2 1/2. Some were only served once, I'm guess part of my problem was poor heat detection.

whelan1

Timmaay wrote: »

Scanned the rest of the spring calvers today. In total, 8 out of 46 cows empty, this wasn't unexpected, 6 of them calved down in may/june this year, and I only gave them one or 2 chances before letting them slip around. The other 2 calved last feb. Both have fairly decent yields (7kL 305day), so should milk on fine if I managed to get them incalf now, however they have been served 3/4 times already. Is it even worth the effort by now? I'll let them out to the bull if they do showup, save the cost of AI at least.

Heifers were abit disappointing, 7 empty out of 20. Had seen afew bulling, but wasnt expecting it to be that bad. So back in with the Estimate now, and get them to calf down next autumn, two will be 3yrs old, the rest about 2 1/2. Some were only served once, I'm guess part of my problem was poor heat detection.

where the heifers ai or bull? would you be better off selling off the 2 older heifers and buying in 2 calved down?

Tomjim

roughly how much would it cost to scan 20 cows

Timmaay

Hmm our only bull is a 700+kg LM! So that would most certainly be AI! When you say sell, sell now as for beef, or get incalf and sell next Autumn. But yeh, 1/2 thinking about buying in afew more heifers at the minute, hopefully would be one last final buy in if I did, I'll need to tot up my figures on the 2014/15 quota and cownumbers to see will I be much short.

jersey101

Timmaay wrote: »

Scanned the rest of the spring calvers today. In total, 8 out of 46 cows empty, this wasn't unexpected, 6 of them calved down in may/june this year, and I only gave them one or 2 chances before letting them slip around. The other 2 calved last feb. Both have fairly decent yields (7kL 305day), so should milk on fine if I managed to get them incalf now, however they have been served 3/4 times already. Is it even worth the effort by now? I'll let them out to the bull if they do showup, save the cost of AI at least.

Heifers were abit disappointing, 7 empty out of 20. Had seen afew bulling, but wasnt expecting it to be that bad. So back in with the Estimate now, and get them to calf down next autumn, two will be 3yrs old, the rest about 2 1/2. Some were only served once, I'm guess part of my problem was poor heat detection.

out of them cows thats are empty how many were carried over before. Id consider getting rid of them if they have.you would be aswell sort out what ye dont want in your herd before 2015 so ye can start running when 2015 comes.we were like you are a few year ago and now we dry off everything here and if there they dont calve then its bye bye. If there a young cow maybe 3 or 4 then we think about keeping. If we dont like the look of them then they go. No point in breeding dirt into your herd. You will just keep going in circles

Timmaay

Tomjim wrote: »

roughly how much would it cost to scan 20 cows

Usually something around 3quid/head, but might be a call out fee. If the fee was 20quid/cow it would still be well worth it.

Timmaay

jersey101 wrote: »

out of them cows thats are empty how many were carried over before. Id consider getting rid of them if they have.you would be aswell sort out what ye dont want in your herd before 2015 so ye can start running when 2015 comes.we were like you are a few year ago and now we dry off everything here and if there they dont calve then its bye bye. If there a young cow maybe 3 or 4 then we think about keeping. If we dont like the look of them then they go. No point in breeding dirt into your herd. You will just keep going in circles

Dont worry, wont be any dairystraws going near these ladies.

whelan1

Timmaay wrote: »

Hmm our only bull is a 700+kg LM! So that would most certainly be AI! When you say sell, sell now as for beef, or get incalf and sell next Autumn. But yeh, 1/2 thinking about buying in afew more heifers at the minute, hopefully would be one last final buy in if I did, I'll need to tot up my figures on the 2014/15 quota and cownumbers to see will I be much short.

i would just bring the 2 older heifers to mart as are, no point feeding them anymore , whats to say they will go in calf this time

Timmaay

I need a young AA bull for next year, might pick one up very soon and run him with these empty heifers. If it was fully up to me, yeh I'll probably flog them 2 heifers on in the morning, but not even going to bother suggesting it to my dad because I know the answer ha!

whelan1

Timmaay wrote: »

I need a young AA bull for next year, might pick one up very soon and run him with these empty heifers. If it was fully up to me, yeh I'll probably flog them 2 heifers on in the morning, but not even going to bother suggesting it to my dad because I know the answer ha!

maybe say to him how much they have cost you so far? i ai'd my heifers first and then let aa bull in , 1 heifer not in calf out of 30

quadboy

scanned the 12 heifers today, 2 empty

delaval

quadboy wrote: »

scanned the 12 heifers today, 2 empty

Did you synch them last may after all

quadboy

delaval wrote: »

Did you synch them last may after all

yeah just served em as they came bulling, i was expecting more empty ones, one of the empty ones was served 3 times the b1tch an she a lovely lookin heifer