Kubota

reilig

People on here advised about Kubota tractors in the past.

I have a mate looking to buy a 90Hp tractor with a loader. He has a budget of €25 to 30k + VAT. He has been looking at New Hollands. In his price range, he could afford something up to 10 years old with 4000+ hours (and the wear and tear that comes with it).

He has come across a few Kubota's. Specifically 3 or 4 different ME 9000 with quickie loader's. One is a 2006 with 1600 hours for €22k. The others have slightly higher hours and are similarly priced.

The question we're asking is why such a low price? A new Kubota is a similar price to a New Holland. Do they lose that much value in such a short time even if they have done feck all work? he's worried that if he buys it, it will be worth nothing in years to come??

vanderbadger

reilig wrote: »

People on here advised about Kubota tractors in the past.

I have a mate looking to buy a 90Hp tractor with a loader. He has a budget of €25 to 30k + VAT. He has been looking at New Hollands. In his price range, he could afford something up to 10 years old with 4000+ hours (and the wear and tear that comes with it).

He has come across a few Kubota's. Specifically 3 or 4 different ME 9000 with quickie loader's. One is a 2006 with 1600 hours for €22k. The others have slightly higher hours and are similarly priced.

The question we're asking is why such a low price? A new Kubota is a similar price to a New Holland. Do they lose that much value in such a short time even if they have done feck all work? he's worried that if he buys it, it will be worth nothing in years to come??

i think they are still viewed with skepticism by some, they arent an established tractor brand here yet so maybe thats why they are cheap, not sure im gone on those me models, they look a bit light for loader work. i like my own kubota tractor though, very happy with it

pakalasa

I noticed looking through tractordata.com that all the kubotas are very light for their horsepower.
A Kubota M9000 is 92Hp and only 2800Kg. A JD6400 is 85Hp and weighs 3970 Kg. Bit of a difference.

simx

pakalasa wrote: »

I noticed looking through tractordata.com that all the kubotas are very light for their horsepower.
A Kubota M9000 is 92Hp and only 2800Kg. A JD6400 is 85Hp and weighs 3970 Kg. Bit of a difference.

A JD 6400 I thought was 110hp

pakalasa

simx wrote: »

A JD 6400 I thought was 110hp

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/1/6/168-john-deere-6400.html

grazeaway

have noticed that a lot of the JD tractors seem very under powered on tractordata. that said many of the eninges are the same expect the fuel pumps and settings are differnt to get more power. the newer ones have chips in teh engines so you can get a 110hp chip fitted to a 90hp engine. one of my neighbours bought a JD6110 new about 10 years ago, i think it was about 90hp standard but he got the chip for a 6410 put in which added about 20hp. engine was indenitcal just had different settings.

good start for your buddy with the kubota would be to try and get a demo. i'd agree that they should be very good tractors and their small plant equipment and graden tractors are top class. they are made my the same company rather the rebranding another manufacturer so there is no reason why they cant be as well made and the mini diggers.

As for the weight issue, you can always get a weight box to put on the back for lifting bales, for other yard work the lighter tratcor will be lighter on juice, you may not need the extra weight. if there is a decent loader fitted it'll act like ballast as well. not everyone needs a TS115 to lift bales

jimmy G M

pakalasa wrote: »

http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/1/6/168-john-deere-6400.html

Thats the PTO horse power. Engine HP tends to be 10 to 15% higher. Tractors tend to lose some power to the PTO depending on the efficiency of the transmission system.

So true engine HP of the JD 6400 is probably aprox 100?

jimmy G M

jimmy G M wrote: »

Thats the PTO horse power. Engine HP tends to be 10 to 15% higher. Tractors tend to lose some power to the PTO depending on the efficiency of the transmission system.

So true engine HP of the JD 6400 is probably aprox 100?

See attached data from tractor data. These JD models seem to be more inefficient than most in converting engine HP to PTO HP.

See gross engine HP of a JD 6200 is 89hp, yet PTO HP (listed under tests tab) is circa 68hp, a 23% loss of power in transmission. Engine HP is aprox 30% more than the quoted PTO output. Applying this to the 6400 you get an engine HP of circa 110 which is what Simx says it sould be.




http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/000/1/6/166-john-deere-6200-engine.html

pakalasa

grazeaway wrote: »

..As for the weight issue, you can always get a weight box to put on the back for lifting bales, for other yard work the lighter tratcor will be lighter on juice, you may not need the extra weight. if there is a decent loader fitted it'll act like ballast as well. not everyone needs a TS115 to lift bales

Agreed, but maybe for tillage and the likes, the extra weight would be an advantage.

yellow50HX

pakalasa wrote: »

Agreed, but maybe for tillage and the likes, the extra weight would be an advantage.

but if your only using it for stockman duites then thats not a big issue, unless your looking to pull a heavy slurry tanker or trailer

Poor Farmer in the hills

Kubota are the best build machinery i have ever seen. I would have no fear of buying a kubota tractor

pakalasa

They do look like a well made tractor alright. Time will tell, I suppose.

F.D

Check the price of parts also i think on there small stuff used on parkland etc the prices were know to be excessive, just what i heard dont know if its true

jomoloney

F.D wrote: »

Check the price of parts also i think on there small stuff used on parkland etc the prices were know to be excessive, just what i heard dont know if its true

Murp%$y Machinery are the distributors, good service but not exactly renowned for been cheap

it's the same with most main dealers , it seems that the sale of parts make up afiar share of their profit,

vanderbadger

jomoloney wrote: »

Murp%$y Machinery are the distributors, good service but not exactly renowned for been cheap

it's the same with most main dealers , it seems that the sale of parts make up afiar share of their profit,

murphys are no longer distributer, kubota now distribute direct. i think murphys may be a dealer for them now though

lakill Farm

i buy kubota mini digger parts from the UK. approx 50-70% cheaper

Damo810

It's the same with the Landini though. An 02 with 2300 hours was quoted at 23,500 a similar valtra would be over 30K. Thats the one thing that would put me off these cheaper brands, unless you plan to run them into the ground, what will it be like to upgrade to the newer model in 5-10 years time..