WWE Money In the Bank Fallout Thread (Spoilers Alert)

gerrybbadd

So, we now know who the 2 Mr.Money in the Banks are. Can Orton beat Cena for the belt? Where now for D. Bryan - a feud with Curtis Axel looks likely.

Sandow and Cody are also bound to feud after last night.

Punk got screwed by his Bestie, and was left needing 13 staples - this ads an interesting dynamic to the upcoming match between Punk and Lesnar.

Thoughts?

Hematocyte

Slightly OT but why was Heyman chastising Axle for "messing with Punk"?

Up to that point Axle had technically done nothing to Punk. He hadn't even said so much as a word or got in his face (let alone thrown a punch etc).

The second Axle/Punk came within range of each other Punk hit the GTS before Axle had done anything. If fact if anything Axle's actions up to that point could actually be construed as helpful since he had taken out Bryan to clear the way.

Did Heyman mean that even interfering to assist was "messing with Punk?"

gnfnrhead

Poor showing from what was usually one of WWE's best.

WHC MITB was the EASY MOTN. Nothing else even came close to it. Unfortunatly, the rest of the show could not follow its example. Brad Maddox segment was the most pointless thing in quite a while. That kind of crap should be left for Raw, not a PPV. It completely killed the crowd. With that segment bombing, following it up with Miz vs Axel made zero sense. That was never going to be a great match. Miz is an awful babyface but a pretty good heel, he proved it by getting booed out of the building and playing it up instead of still trying to be the babyface.

AJ vs Kaitlyn was nowhere close to their Payback match. Odd way to end the feud too as Kaitlyn has tapped out clean twice in a row. She has zero claim to another shot anytime soon. Jericho vs Ryback was just bad. Jericho will be off again soon so they could have let Ryback take him out, instead of winning with a weak as fcuk roll up. Just like the Diva's, Del Rio vs Ziggler didn't come close to their last attempt. Despite that, it was still the second best MOTN. Cena vs Henry went the wrong direction entirely. We know Cena can lift Henry. We have seen him do it many times. Poor match with an awful finish having Henry tap almost instantly.

All star MITB failed to deliver big time. It took RVD about three minutes to slip back into his usual spots. Funny how Cena gets so much abuse yet RVD gets a pass from a lot of people. Axel doing the run in was just weird. Why not use the Wyatt's since they already took out Kane? At least their would have been some sort of link made. Orton doesn't need to case but I don't mind too much that he won. If anything, it'll give him something to do.

Overall, it was a big let down compared to recent years.

gnfnrhead

Hematocyte wrote: »

Slightly OT but why was Heyman chastising Axle for "messing with Punk"?

Up to that point Axle had technically done nothing to Punk. He hadn't even said so much as a word or got in his face (let alone thrown a punch etc).

The second Axle/Punk came within range of each other Punk hit the GTS before Axle had done anything. If fact if anything Axle's actions up to that point could actually be construed as helpful since he had taken out Bryan to clear the way.

Did Heyman mean that even interfering to assist was "messing with Punk?"

It was to make the obvious betrayal a little less obvious. It didn't work in my eyes and actually did the opposite.

Was I the only one that thought RVD was awful?

ricero

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Was I the only one that thought RVD was awful?

in fairness he took that rko beautifully

Nuri Sahin

7am here, so if I miss out anything, sorry.

Way too many screwjob finishes and run-ins.

That ridiculous Vickie segment should have been saved for RAW tomorrow night and went on and on and on... -_-

Cody was sensational, chuffed for him in his performance and the reaction he got. Watched it in a bar in NY and the place went nuts for him. Not sure if I'll get to watch Raw tonight, but it'll be interesting to see if the face turn does indeed begin tonight on Raw. Good to see Sandow to win though. There was a few people I'd have liked to see win it and he was one of them. Don't care if he messed it up the first time, the Ambrose spot was very cool as was Cody's musclebuster move.

Shame about the finish to the Del Rio and Ziggler match, it was an excellent bout up until AJ came out.

IC Title match, well at least Axel won clean without Heyman I suppose.

Women's Title.. I used it as time for refill our pitcher. So yeah.

As for near every Cena match, it's hard to care when the result is in no doubt. As for Henry matches, certainly over the past year or two, it was disappointing. There should have been a stipulation of some sorts to help add to it. No Holds Barred. Anything! Where does Henry go from here now as well?

All Star match or whatever it was called was a whole load of meh, despite some decent spots, but Byran aside, it was hard to care terribly and then when Orton won, the entire bar collectively ugh'ed in unison as he unclipped the briefcase.

I'd probably give the PPV a 6.5 out of 10, perhaps I'm being kind.

cian68

Deleted User wrote: »

Was I the only one that thought RVD was awful?

I was pretty annoyed when he just pie faced the ladder and Sheamus took a nasty fall.

J. Marston

Heyman's handiwork....

JP Liz V1

Thread needs a poll please

I really enjoyed the SD MITB ladder match

Single matches in WWE are truly harrowing to watch.

xpletiv

RVD:


Punk:

DM_7

WHC ladder match was the hitghlight of the night.

enjoyed the WHC match up to the finish. WWE MITB ladder match was good but nothing special. Axel stopping Bryan was a big shock. WWE title match was good as well. Divas match was okay, not as good as their last match but better than 95 percent of Diva matches WWE give us.

I wasn't that into Jericho v Ryback or Miz v Axel, Maddox and the awful appearance he made was a big part of that though. Sucked evergy out of the crowd and anyone else watching.

the Pre Show match belonged on the actual PPV. I love Tag Matches with high energy and both teams work well together.

a few too many matches relying on people not actually in the match getting involved, Axel + Heyman, Reigns + Rollins, AJ.

Cianan2

No joke, I thought it was a brilliant PPV yet again. I was just thoroughly entertained from start to finish.

Only one thing I didn't like was AJ screwing the finish of a brilliant WHC match, but as the story plays out it may work out well in the long run - I thought every other match told a great story, including the diva's match.

The commentary was absolutely brilliant for Orton's ascending of the ladder - really added to when he stopped and looked around before unclipping the briefcase. Orton heel turn now as he chases Cena for the title?

Thought Cody completely stole the show.

SlickRic

if this actually triggers an Orton/Cena feud I might cry.

it would be definitive proof that WWE believe the fans have no memory.

DM_7

Why can't Orton and Cena feud again though? Its a long time since they had a feud. They work well together, had some great matches and Orton as Heel is a great foil for Cena.

Just because something is new doesn't make it good - just because something else was done before won't make it bad.

smellmepower

Thought it was decent enough overall,WHC was my favourite match of the show.

No problems with Orton or Sandow winning MITB,Bryan doesn't need to briefcase to feud with Cena anyways.

Was strange seeing RVD look motivated again,he did very well I thought.

JP Liz V1

smellmepower wrote: »

Thought it was decent enough overall,WHC was my favourite match of the show.

No problems with Orton or Sandow winning MITB,Bryan doesn't need to briefcase to feud with Cena anyways.

Was strange seeing RVD look motivated again,he did very well I thought.

I think Bryan could be feuding with Axel next

Furious-Red

Partial Source: Pwinsider

Christian suffered chipped teeth during last night’s MITB PPV main event.

The injury happened when Sheamus punched Christian, and there was initially a fear that Christian had suffered a concussion from the punch.

Insect Overlord

Awful lot of injuries and near misses last night! Punk and RVD getting stitches, Cody's split eyebrow, Christian's chipped teeth, Sheamus' arm after going through the ladder, Orton nearly bollocking his ankle. What have I missed? Mark Henry in the STF? :pac:

SirDelboy18

Still think we are good with Bryan and Cena for Summerslam, and that Axel isn't intended to be paired with Bryan, at least not for longer than one night.

I have 0 optimism for a potential Orton vs Cena feud, have seen it all before in every colour, shape and size. If there is a cash in it should probably be on Bryan so there can be a somewhat fresh feud.

Is there anyone left for ADR to feud with after Ziggler? Can this guy just be removed from the title scene please? I understood him holding the belt again for Ziggler's sake but if Zig v Big E happens at Summerslam then where does that leave ADR?

Hashtag_HEEL

Well here's my full PPV analysis:

Pre show match: Usos VS the Shield

I missed the first few minutes of the match but the crowd were crazy into it! The last portion of the match had some amazing power/nearfall spots.
Nice touch bringing Ambrose out to have the trio celebrate.

World Title MITB Match
My pick for match of the night. Not only did it feature some great ladder spots but it was easily the most dramatic match. I was excited myself at the prospect of Cody picking up the briefcase but his own tag partner stole the briefcase, and then they gave him the Hogan WM 6 treatment of here's the sad face who lost.
It'll be interesting to see how Cody works as a face and where the feud with Sandow will go.

Brad Maddox talks about Vickie Guerreuro
Maddox decided to give a tribute to Vickie in the ring. Granted they needed time to set back up the ladders and clear the ring, but they surely could have had another segment. Don't get me wrong I'm a Brad Maddox guy but that died a slow and painful death. This was the only time I was happy to see the Miz

Intercontinental Title: Curtis Axel VS The Miz
An average match. The only thing mentionable in the match is Miz making the sound of a slap,lying down and telling the referee that Heyman had hit him.
Couldn't the ref break out the Extreme Rules replay system before ejecting a manager who would obviously have a managers licence and permission to be at ringside? Pretty nothing match anyway.
Side note: there was a quick "You're not over" chant during this match. I'd assume that it was directed at the Miz

Divas title: AJ VS Kaitlyn
Quite good for a divas match. AJ worked the arm for the entire match and had Kaitlyn tap out. The best part of the match was AJ flying into Big E's shoulder. The smack it made was something else.
A divas match that made sense :eek:

Ryback VS Chris Jericho
The absolute drizzling s#its of the PPV. A boo filled botchfest with a nonsensical ending. I hated this match.

World Title Match: ADR VS Ziggler
The best singles match on the card until the ending. One of the only times I wasn't happy to see AJ lee. The match was superb, really quick paced and aggressive.

WWE Title: Cena VS Henry
The match had a good build but horrible booking.
"Can Cena lift massive Mark Henry?" Of course he can, he's done it several time before, he's even lifted the Big Show (a man who is supposed to be much heavier than Henry).
I didn't care about this match in the slightest, we all knew that Super Cena would prevail as always.

WWE Title MITB match
The weaker of the two ladder matches,but still good. I really enjoyed the "Let's take out the most threatening opponents first" spot rather than "attack anyone you see". The shining stars of this match were obviously Daniel Bryan and CM Punk. They brought so much intensity to the match and looked like the clear favourites.
Obviously I'm quite pissed that Orton won, but I'm interested to see where it will go from here with Axel, Punk, Bryan and Heyman.

Overall I give it a strong 7/10

Bounty Hunter

Poll added

The Tag titles match should have been on the card. I expect from a storyline perspective maybe it wasnt as needed as the others as the Uso's (who were great) will probably drop out of the title hunt as a new storyline feud begins. However this match was a great opener and really got the crowd into it, while not involving ladders, botches or a screwy finish.

The WHC MITB match was the MOTN and yes Cody looked great and should hopefully get a singles push now as a face (although logically you would think he & Sandow will feud so he may not win that as they will want to build up Sandow). Sandow winning would have been my 2nd choice behind Ambrose but it is definitely something im happy with.

Here only one match into the actual PPV and with it already looking like it could be a great one is where the big dip began and the crowd were killed somewhat.

I don't actually think the Vickie segment was all that terrible when compared to others ive seen before as filler on PPVs while ladders etc are set up or removed but to then follow it with a match between Axel & Miz that nobody really cared about except for the fact that it involved Paul Heyman and the PPV was in Philly but even that didnt last long as they had a spot (which tbh I think is a good spot but one..) which made very little sense as it saw a face (who isnt really over as a face which the crowd even chanted about) cheat / playact to get Heyman removed from ringside and remove all remaining crowd interest in the match. 1 saving grace is that Axel then won clean over Miz but the air had been let out of the PPV and unfortunately they didnt have a match like the WHC MITB or Shield tag match left to bring it back up pre the main events.

Instead we got the Divas match which although not too bad a match tbh doesen't do anything for their ongoing storyline and well sorry to the Divas but they aren't ever too likely to be the match to reignite the crowd. Then thats followed up by the worst match of the night in Jericho vs Ryback which honestly there wasnt much memorable about apart from that Ryback got the win without looking impressive.

WHC match with Ziggler vs ADR (c) was actually a really good match and although the ending would have annoyed many I never expected Ziggler to get the title back this quick so furthering the divide between face Ziggler & his heel missus is probably a good idea as they head towards Summerslam where I would hope Dolph fully breaks out on his own and hopefully by regaining the gold.

When this match ended and the WWE title match promo began I could only think one thing... O so their not going to even tease one of the MITB contracts being cashed in tonight. The title match wasn't terrible it's just not an unexpected outcome at this point and very disappointing to see the the Worlds Strongest Man tap so quickly to Cena's weak STF.

Then the main event the WWE MITB "all stars match" - it was good and had some good (brutal looking) spots but in comparison to the MITB opener it didnt impress hugely especially having Orton win it. I know smarks might be different but id imagine he was most people who post here least favored person to win. Would have loved to see Bryan win it and hope he doesent feud with Axel now (ideally that rumoured Cena Summerslam match instead) but despite not wanting to see Orton win it, I never really expected anyone other than him or Bryan to win it as Punk was always going to be heading straight into a program with Brock and I expected something in this match to lead into that which we did get. I like my nostalgia so I enjoyed RVD being back especially as the crowd were so into him (as they have been in recent weeks when he wasnt even there).

I wouldnt think we will get Orton vs Cena (not straight away anyway) just yet even with him now having the MITB briefcase. They like to keep someone with the briefcase for a while incase they need the get out of jail free card that it is for the writers if say a champ (Cena) got injured sometime down the road, at which point Orton would be perfect to hit his trademark "out of nowhere" RKO and win the belt after a cash in.

Gave the PPV a 7, after writing this though I wonder should I have went 6 but I decided to round up (would have went 6.5) because although it really lost its way in the middle I enjoyed the pre show, the WHC MITB match, Zigglers match and many of the spots in the main event.

bobby_says_hi

The first MITB was amazing. I was literally on the edge of my seat, praying for Cody Rhodes to win. But Sandow winning and taking the briefcase away from him is even better. Cody is in dire need of a face turn and I hope we get them to feud over the briefcase with Cody eventually capturing it in a match. It could be the only non-title match at Night of Champions and would still fit the theme of the night

The Vickie segment was there to fill the time and give the crowd a chance to relax after the first match. That was their piss break segment. That was the only purpose it served

The IC title match was ok. I would assume the "you're not over" chant was directed at Axel. Heyman is over but not him. He may have a new name and a new push but he's still a complete charisma vacuum. Miz was able to get something out of him towards the end. They did share a little chemistry so perhaps we could get another match?

Divas' title was disappointing. It was well wrestled and nicely paced but it couldn't live up to their previous match. If they wanted to sell the injured shoulder angle they could have at least had a segment setting it up rather than just creating it on the night. Hopefully Layla's presence at ringside means she will be the next challenger. If any Diva can get a good match out of AJ, it's Layla

Ryback vs Chris Jericho wasn't too bad. Second weakest match of the evening but still not bad. It was all Jericho though. If you watch a match of his from 2000 and one these days, there's no difference in quality whatsoever. In contrast to Rock, Austin, HHH, JBL and Batista, Jericho's workrate has never gone down over the years. Ending was weird though. They never seem to have a problem jobbing Jericho out normally. Isn't the big monster heel supposed to *lose* to roll-ups instead of winning with one?

The World title match was even better than their one at Payback. Del Rio was living wallpaper last year but he seems to have found something to make himself more interesting. Ziggler had the crowd in the palm of his hand and sold his ass off. Literally every spot towards the end made me mark out. I seem to be in the minority that thought the DQ was the perfect way to end it. The division between AJ and Ziggler has now been drawn, he will turn face while she will remain heel. And she will get extra heat for screwing Ziggler. Plus it allows an excuse for another match at SummerSlam. Hopefully down the line a high profile mixed tag with Ziggler & Layla vs Del Rio & AJ

I didn't pay too much attention to Cena/Henry. Everyone knew that would be the pissbreak match. From what I did see, it wasn't too bad. I honestly thought Henry might win a couple of times. But inevitably Cena prevailed though I was shocked to see Henry tap out. I was hugely relieved that this didn't close the show as it was not worthy of being a main event match

The All Stars MITB match wasn't as fun as the opener but still pretty good. I thought RVD was on form, obviously not everyone else thought so too. I wanted Christian to win but of course I knew he wouldn't. I have to admit it was cool to see all these legit main eventers competing in such a match, which is what the original MITB concept was based around. I liked the story telling and it was good to see Heyman properly turn on Punk, which opens up great possibilities for stories on Raw. RVD sold that RKO to perfection. Orton was kind of an obvious choice to win. I wouldn't mind a face vs face feud with Cena right now, especially if Cena plays the heel in their matches

Ape Lincoln

Apparently the gambling odds yesterday afternoon pointed to Sandow and Orton winning which is what happened.

Am I the only that dislikes Money in the Bank matches? To me they're too illogical, they make little sense in kayfabe and are often just a mess. If they added an elimination stip where you're knocked out via pinfall or thrown over the top rope it might be better.

Anyway, I agree with most other comments - the WHC match was the better of the two and Cena/Henry sucked as much as to be expected.

That ladder shot to Punk's head looked very sore and the photo posted above is pretty gory.

Lord TSC

I enjoyed most of the show and was glad it was my first live PPV in years. Rather than recap the whole thing, I'd say I thought Bryan's entrance made him look a star (thanks to a good crowd). Heyman's turn, while predictable, was better than what I thought was going to happen (which involved Heyman remaining "torn" for longer). Orton needed that win so glad for him too, and it's been long enough since Cena/Orton that it will fresh enough (IF they go that way).

Overall, enjoyed it, and had it been a pay for ppv, I'd have thought it was worth the money.

DM_7

Shaymaker

CastorTroy

The tag match was pretty good and I'm glad when the Shield invaded the MitB match that the Usos came in. I was watching thinking they should come in and seems the writers made the right choice.

In the MitB match, I thought Cody did really well. At times he had Bryan momentum, taking out everyone.

With the divas match, as nice as AJs finisher is to look at, I still don;t understand why Kaitlyn didn't just fall back to break the hold. Who else is there that AJ could face apart from Kaitlyn? Maybe Layla or Natalya? I know there are people talking about Kong coming in but if she was to feud with AJ, that wouldn't be very believable for obvious reasons.

For the Ryback match, as others have said, what have they done to him. They've gone from monster Ryback to Cryback. And a roll up/small package is one of my least favourite ways for any match to end. It seems to me like they're told they have 5 seconds to finish the match.

Speaking of, it seemed that's exactly what happened with the IC match. The ending was like an RKO the way it came out of nowhere.

RVD looked like he's lost weight. Found it interesting the way they cut Christian's entrance. Bryan seems to get to take everyone out a lot these days. If they're putting him in a feud for the IC title, then he could make it mean something again. Liked seeing Sheamus's roll (but not his buns) when he jumped over the ladder off the apron. Match was grand. Heyman turning on Punk seemed pointless in the long run but as it was Philadelphia, they probably had to do it there. I couldn't care less about the winner.
Seems that's 2 years in a row that I don't care about the Raw winner but am interested in the Smackdown winner.

So can't see Sandow cashing in against Del Rio anyway, but I'll enjoy seeing him threatening to cash it in to see how he does it intellectually.

Sirsok

Any reports on shemus gettin pissed at rvd after that ladder spot. . . Remember him after it looking really vicious towards van dam. . . . Del rio is awesome and am really enjoying him recently. . . Disappointed with the tag match as haven seen the uso's properly in a while. . . Always get hyped up for shows and suppose it was good, feel a bit deflated with the main event result but i suppose thats the way i should feel when my favourite wrestler loses :-)

Mr.Nice Guy

I really enjoyed the show. I'd give it about an 8/10. Some of the interference in finishes would stop me from rating it higher. I missed the Shield/Usos match but I hear it was a good one.

World Title MITB match. I thought this was well thought out. I loved the ending of Sandow screwing Rhodes. It felt a bit disjointed in the early stages but it still exceeded my expectations. Thumbs up.

Maddox/Vickie segment - This was like a Raw segment and it didn't add anything. Thumbs down.

IC Title match - I found this pretty meh. I was hoping the fans would turn on Miz more. Miz did a pretty good Rivaldo impersonatione the way he went to ground. I know it's early days but I don't think Curis Axel has 'it'. He reminds me of a guy who would have been considered a good hand in Mid-South or Georgia Championship Wrestling.Thumbs down.

Divas Title Match - I found this surprisingly good. I thought they did a good job. Thumbs up.

Ryback vs Jericho - This wasn't a great match and I didn't like the finish. I'm not sure a roll-up win does much for Ryback really, and we've seen this finish with Fandango. If Ryback is going over, have him go over properly. Thumbs in the middle.

World Title Match - This was great fun. Ziggler worked super hard and Del Rio held up his end too. Pity about the ending. I would have liked to see AJ turn on him there and then but I guess they'll save that for Raw. Thumbs up.

WWE Title Match - Another very good match. I liked the story of the match and it reminded me a bit like Cena's match with Batista a few years back. Not one that looked likely to be good but ended up being quite good in the end. Thumbs up.

WWE MITB match - I thought this match was better than the heel MITB opener and was my favourite of the night. Great pop for RVD, but I thought he worked very stiff. When he knocked Sheamus off the ladder he looked pretty unhappy. I hope RVD's old reputation doesn't come back to haunt him. He was entertaining.

Christian did okay but was largely anonymous.

Sheamus had some good moments but was pretty hated. Was funny when he did his clubbing blows spot on Bryan and the fans screamed 'No' rather than count along. He took some big damage in this one with the RVD spot already mentioned, and the spot through the ladder. He worked hard but his character is pretty bad.

D-Bryan did very well. I liked his late flurry of offence. Just hope for his sake he's not going to find himself challenging for the IC Title now.

CM Punk did alright. Didn't think he added a great deal to the match. Obviously the ending was the big thing with him and to be fair to him he took a hard blow from Heyman's ladder spot. I liked the Heyman stuff.

Orton winning was something I called, but I thought he'd do something heelish to triumph. I think a heel turn is inevitable as he's taken some clean losses of late and been on the receiving end of mockery from Bryan. If they go with Bryan vs Cena at Summerslam and have Orton cash in on Bryan after he wins a hard fought match, that could be a good feud for the remaining months. I agree, though, that Orton vs Cena in singles matches would be same old, same old. Thumbs up.

Overall, I enjoyed the PPV. The ladder matches usually deliver and when that happens the show just needs the other big matches to hold up their end and I think they did. Thumbs up PPV.

GTR63

Gave it a 5.
Enjoyed the World Title MITB a lot as they gave everyone a chance to shine a bit.
Miz vs Axel and the Divas matches were average. Jericho vs Ryback was a bit crap tbh why did Ryback injure his knee if it didn't come in to play at all. Dolph vs ADR was good the finish was a naff, tiny AJ stretched Alberto with the divas title, lol.
Cena vs Henry, I didn't even watch that properly but it seemed the usual kick out of signatures main event.
The WWE Title mitb was sloppy in places but even so a big step down from the opener.

Dracula88

Wrong move in having Damien Sandow as mister money in the bank in my opinion. I would have preferred Cody Rhodes or Dean Ambrose to win it. Overall the money in the bank ladder matches couldn't live up to the previous ladder matches at Wrestlemania. I despise the fact Dolph Ziggler is no longer World Heavyweight Champion and that Mark Henry was in a WWE Championship match