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Shops who dont put the change in the poor box as askec

  • 11-07-2013 9:32pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭


    Normally when i get under 20c change (last of the big spenders i know) i always ask the shopkeeper to put the change in the poorbox or charity box.i just hate having those loose brown cents in my pockets..i always walk away as i tell them

    I told my mate this a few weeks ago and he questioned if all shopkeepers would

    Ive done it around 30 times in last 2weeks and its annoyed me that some didnt and just closed till or went to next customer

    Is this morally wrong or have they the right to do it as i asked them to put it in the poor box


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    If you don't take the change back, it's their money and they can do what they like with it. Be less passive about it, collect your change and put it in the box yourself.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    Pffff....I'm the same with 10e notes....pocket full of tenners....I'd feel so common


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    Can't say I've ever seen a box marked "Poor" in any shop. It's not a registered charity.

    Suggest you put it in the whatever charity you prefer box yourself, it's your choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    wil wrote: »
    Can't say I've ever seen a box marked "Poor" in any shop. It's not a registered charity.

    Suggest you put it in the whatever charity you prefer box yourself, it's your choice.


    Dont be so pedantic..its obvious what i was on about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭wil


    Specialun wrote: »
    Dont be so pedantic..its obvious what i was on about
    It's a valid point. These days many shopkeepers probably consider the till a "poorbox"

    Either way if it bothers you, why not put it towards the charity you prefer yourself or if that is too much trouble, spend that extra few seconds putting it in what ever charity box is near the till.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    For some reason when I say "keep the change", about 5 to 10 cent they tend to put it in the box everytime. And this is from local shop to shopping centre shop. Maybe you should have a go at reverse psychology OP :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I still call it the poorbox. For the babies in Biafra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Poorbox? Ha. There are no poor in this country.

    Also there are very few shops that have charity boxes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    SHOVELLER wrote: »
    Poorbox? Ha. There are no poor in this country.

    Also there are very few shops that have charity boxes.

    Jesus what's with the pedantry tonight? It's a generic term for collection boxes for charitable causes.

    Get a life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    You watched them retain it in the till and said nothing??!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    No Pants wrote: »
    If you don't take the change back, it's their money and they can do what they like with it. Be less passive about it, collect your change and put it in the box yourself.

    It's not their money if you ask them to put it in the poor box.

    It's just not. No ifs, no buts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,709 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    You could buy a helium balloon and glue a 1c coin onto it. You could then let it go and float away. When it gets too high and bursts, the coin will drop and could hit somebody.

    If you did this every day for a year, do you reckon you could ever kill somebody? Try it and report your findings to us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    The shops might not have a charity box. Maybe you should look to see if they have one and then say "will you put the change in that box there please?". If they say "yes" and don't do it they're stealing. It's stealing anyway but it's best to be as clear as possible where you intend your change to go so they can't say they misunderstood you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭KeithM89


    I had a summer job in a shop in town years ago and the manager used to crack them open and steal all the change for the till, the charities hardly ever bothered to come and collect them. Youd be better off saving your change and just donate online or something.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 66 ✭✭corklad12


    If you want to put it in the poor box. I say you have to do it yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    Most shops would put it into the poor box as if the tills don't balance out at the end of the day then something is up, even if it's in the shops favour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭kc90


    Specialun wrote: »
    Normally when i get under 20c change (last of the big spenders i know) i always ask the shopkeeper to put the change in the poorbox or charity box.i just hate having those loose brown cents in my pockets..i always walk away as i tell them

    I told my mate this a few weeks ago and he questioned if all shopkeepers would

    Ive done it around 30 times in last 2weeks and its annoyed me that some didnt and just closed till or went to next customer

    Is this morally wrong or have they the right to do it as i asked them to put it in the poor box

    I've worked in retail, and in general, I'd do it at the end of the day. If you want to make sure it goes in the box, you'd have to do it yourself though.


  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    OP if there's a box there, it'll be just as accessible to you as the worker, and the worker will be far busier than you at the time to do it.

    I'd always put it in the box when asked, but I don't get why people don't do it themselves. I was at a till a while back when the box was waiting to be collected so there wasn't one near my position, and so rather than climb over the other people at the other tills, I started popping the money beside me, to put in once I'd worked through the queue, but the queue kept getting longer and after a while it just wasn't a workable situation, so I left a few people's change in the till. I figured that if they actually cared they would have put it in themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    Whenever I buy something; I put the change in my pocket. When I get home, I put the change in a jar. My wife does the same. When the jar gets full, I put it into little bags provided by the bank (apparently, banks here haven't gotten the memo about counting machines....but whatever....)

    I'm averaging about 500 euro, per year, in coins, over the last two years. I guess I'm poor, but I really can use that money more than the rich CEO of whatever charity is associated with the 'poor box'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭Bozo Skeleton


    The onus is on yourself to put the money in a charity box. Quite often there's more than one. Personally, I'd rather any money I had going in to a charity box went to the ISPCC or the DSPCA, rather than going in to a Catholic Missionary box, so do it yourself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,878 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    UCDVet wrote: »
    Whenever I buy something; I put the change in my pocket. When I get home, I put the change in a jar. My wife does the same. When the jar gets full, I put it into little bags provided by the bank (apparently, banks here haven't gotten the memo about counting machines....but whatever....)

    I'm averaging about 500 euro, per year, in coins, over the last two years. I guess I'm poor, but I really can use that money more than the rich CEO of whatever charity is associated with the 'poor box'.

    Whenever I buy something I use up some of the change in my pocket if it is possible. That way I don't have to go to all the palaver of putting the change in a jar and counting it and bringing it to the bank. And I am no richer or no poorer but I don't waste my time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭Bozo Skeleton


    ^^ I habitually buy stuff with notes and throw the change in a jar when I get home. The coppers go in a different jar. It adds up. I treat myself when I cash in. I'm half way towards a PS4 in the jar now :)
    I'm generally fairly skint, so I find it a good way of having extra cash for holiday money or little luxuries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,878 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    ^^ I habitually buy stuff with notes and throw the change in a jar when I get home. The coppers go in a different jar. It adds up. I treat myself when I cash in. I'm half way towards a PS4 in the jar now :)
    I'm generally fairly skint, so I find it a good way of having extra cash for holiday money or little luxuries.

    Why not use up the change when shopping and put the extra notes away for holiday money and little luxuries. Much less hassle that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭Bozo Skeleton


    Well that's a fair point. The change jar works for me though. I've worked in bars for years, so counting change up isn't a hassle. I don't touch it til I cash it in. If it was in notes I'd quite probably blow it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    The shops might not have a charity box. Maybe you should look to see if they have one and then say "will you put the change in that box there please?". If they say "yes" and don't do it they're stealing. It's stealing anyway but it's best to be as clear as possible where you intend your change to go so they can't say they misunderstood you.

    why dont you do it yourself?
    Keith wrote: »
    I had a summer job in a shop in town years ago and the manager used to crack them open and steal all the change for the till, the charities hardly ever bothered to come and collect them. Youd be better off saving your change and just donate online or something.

    and you said nothing?
    SV wrote: »
    Most shops would put it into the poor box as if the tills don't balance out at the end of the day then something is up, even if it's in the shops favour.

    do u believe in the tooth fairy aswell?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    Why not use up the change when shopping and put the extra notes away for holiday money and little luxuries. Much less hassle that way.

    It's awfully exciting to count the change in your jar to see how much you've saved!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,347 ✭✭✭No Pants


    I bring my change into work and spend it in the canteen. They love getting the change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    SHOVELLER wrote: »
    Also there are very few shops that have charity boxes.
    I see them all the time.
    "will you put the change in that box there please?". If they say "yes" and don't do it they're stealing..
    +1. So if the OP is right and they many are at it then I would not suggest putting it in the box yourself, as they could be stealing it later.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I still call it the poorbox. For the babies in Biafra.
    I bet you think it's going to food, health and education. That money is spent forcing them to go to mass twice a day :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    rubadub wrote: »
    I see them all the time.

    +1. So if the OP is right and they many are at it then I would not suggest putting it in the box yourself, as they could be stealing it later.

    Are they stealing?

    Their job is to put money back in the till not where you want it.

    "Oh, can you throw that change in the bin actually for me?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    I bet you think it's going to food, health and education. That money is spent forcing them to go to mass twice a day :mad:

    Or all of the above.

    Op, This perplexes me. The guy behind the till is busy and may not be listening to you as you disappear mumbling something about a "poor box". Wait until you get the change and put it in any charity box. The box is customer facing.

    I wonder if people do this to not wait for change rather than care for the poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    they may not have one. If you're that worried about it, take your change and make the donation yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    kraggy wrote: »
    Jesus what's with the pedantry tonight? It's a generic term for collection boxes for charitable causes.

    Get a life.

    And I need to get a life after that post??

    Fine if you disagree but lose the childish name calling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    Where I work, everything we sell is X.95, so loads of people tell me to put the five cent change in the 'poor box.'

    Except there is no charity box at my shop. Or in any other shop in the entire shopping centre.

    So what, do you fcukers want me to go searching for a fcuking charity box on my way home each night? Do your own feckin' charity work!

    What I usually do is throw all change given to me for 'the poor box' into an un-used slot in the till, and at the end of the week, I give it to one of the charities that do collections on the weekends in the shopping centre.

    But ffs, people should check if there's even a charity box there before telling people to put it in the poor box. I don't want my float being a fiver a week over, it makes it look like I've short changed people!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Why not use up the change when shopping and put the extra notes away for holiday money and little luxuries. Much less hassle that way.

    I'd a friend who could never save any money. I told them about the change jar and they started using it to safe. After a few months it can add up to a few hundred Euro

    Personally I hate it when people dig out a bag of change at till and start counting out the coppers, you can even see some of the staff not being too happy and having to jump in to help count it out. The least they could do is have it pre counted and just drop bags but no that would be too easy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,255 ✭✭✭✭Esoteric_


    Del2005 wrote: »
    I'd a friend who could never save any money. I told them about the change jar and they started using it to safe. After a few months it can add up to a few hundred Euro

    Personally I hate it when people dig out a bag of change at till and start counting out the coppers, you can even see some of the staff not being too happy and having to jump in to help count it out. The least they could do is have it pre counted and just drop bags but no that would be too easy.

    I HATE that.

    I have one customer who, every single week without fail, buys an item from me costing 14.95 and insists on paying with 10 and 20 cent coins.

    I'm never allowed to just help her count it up after she's spilled the bag on the counter, which is fcuking stupid because even if I watch her count it, I have to count it myself before putting it into the till anyway. I have to stand there, while she spends approximately 10 minutes counting it (I can do it in about half a minute), refusing to let me serve another customer in the meantime.

    Jesus, I should go off to R+R and post some more in Cries of Retail. :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    When I was a kid we were told to put our change into a the box for the Black Babies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Paramite Pie


    Dempsey wrote: »
    do u believe in the tooth fairy aswell?

    I got a caution at work when my till was up €5 at the end of the day.... short changing customers is a big no-no.... large stores expect their books to balance and if things are off then it looks pretty bad.

    Smaller shops could get away with stuff like that though.
    Del2005 wrote: »
    Personally I hate it when people dig out a bag of change at till and start counting out the coppers, you can even see some of the staff not being too happy and having to jump in to help count it out. The least they could do is have it pre counted and just drop bags but no that would be too easy.

    I always count my change as I queue, whenever possible. Since I worked in a supermarket I know how annoying it can be!!

    Anything we count has to be counted again by the cashier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005




    I always count my change as I queue, whenever possible. Since I worked in a supermarket I know how annoying it can be!!
    The difference is that you're preparing before hitting the till and have an idea what you have, the ones that annoy me are the ones who stand there till the checkout person asks for €x.xx and then they decide to take out a bag of coppers. Like the people who give out to the bus driver that they've been waiting x minutes for the bus and then slowly take their money out and start counting.
    Anything we count has to be counted again by the cashier.

    Do you not have weighing scales for bagged money?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    kraggy wrote: »
    Get a life.
    Yeah? yeah? - so is your face!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭somefeen


    I get annoyed at this too. But you must realise that the shopkeeper may be working on autopilot or undressing you with his/her eyes and/or imaging you in many erotic poses. This would cause them to become distracted and forget to place the money in the poor box.
    You should forgive and instead be grateful that a lowly shopkeep is enamored by your grace, excellent posture and plump buttocks


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