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Video - Euro Fight Night - 14th September - The Pavilion, Red Cow Hotel

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Xlami


    Exciting stuff. All the best.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 381 ✭✭manga_10


    Good luck guys sounds great hope it takes off:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Sounds good. Tickets on sale yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,104 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Excellent, best of luck lads!

    Her eis the Facebook page

    https://www.facebook.com/Crush87Nightclub?fref=ts#!/EuroFightNight?fref=ts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭SevereMMA


    Tickets on sale in SBG City Centre, SBG Longmile Road, Wrestlng Mania on Stephens Green, Martial Arts Shop on Capel Street and on 0876768911

    Confirmed PRO fight: Allen Gus Nolte SBG Montana vs Konrad Iwanowski Team Ryano

    Confirmed fight: Richie Smullen SBG vs Shaun Donnelly YSFC

    Confirmed fight: Tommy Martin SBG vs James McErlean YSFC

    http://www.facebook.com/EuroFightNight


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭SevereMMA


    Confirmed fight: Amanda English (Kyuzo) vs Sunna Davisdottir (Mjolnir)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭SevereMMA


    Another confirmed fight for 14th September: Keith Coady (SBG) vs Conor O'Kane (YSFC)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭SevereMMA


    Card so far

    PRO fight
    Allen Gus Nolte SBG Montana vs Konrad Iwanowski Team Ryano

    Amateur Fights

    Richie Smullen SBG vs Shaun Donnelly YSFC
    Tommy Martin SBG vs James McErlean YSFC
    Amanda English (Kyuzo) vs Sunna Davisdottir (Mjolnir)
    Keith Coady (SBG) vs Conor O'Kane (YSFC)
    Confirmed fight: Bjarki Omarsson(Iceland) vs Denis Stanik (Maynooth)
    Confirmed fight: Diego Bjorn Valencia (Iceland) vs Julius Ziurauskis (Seb Torres Cia Paulista)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭SBG Ireland


    EFN Card

    Pro Fights

    Johnny Dargan SBG v Vaidas Brazdeikis Maynooth Shootfighters HW
    Kieran Davern SBG v Martin Begley Heat MMA WW
    Allen Gus Nolte SBG Montana vs Konrad Iwanowski Team Ryano MW

    Team Iceland v Europe - The Vikings are back!!
    These fights will be broadcast LIVE to Iceland Sport TV

    Sunna Davisdottir (Iceland) vs Amanda English (Ireland)
    Bjarki Omarsson (Iceland) vs Denis Stanik (Lithuania) FW
    Diego Bjorn Valencia (Iceland) vs Julius Ziurauskis (Lithuania) MW
    Thor Palsson (Iceland) v TBC LW
    Egill Øydvin Hjördísarson (Iceland) v TBC MW

    Amateur Fights

    Richie Smullen SBG vs Craig Slattery MMA FW
    Tommy Martin SBG vs James McErlean YSFC FW
    Keith Coady SBG vs Conor O'Kane YSFC BW
    Michael Sheridan (Joe.ie) v TBC LW

    tickets available online
    Link for tickets
    from any of the SBG Gyms - 0876768911 for more
    Mullens Sports Capel St
    Wrestlemania Stephens Green
    Any of the fighters on the card

    Also on the night a raffle for
    Conor McGregor's Boston UFC Gloves
    His UFC Boston Fight Shorts
    And UFC Corner Towel
    Plus he will be there on the night for photographs

    This is a night not to be missed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Xlami


    Good card; really looking forward to seeing Konrad fight. Thought he had an excellent professional debut in June and excited to see him climb the middleweight ranks. Does anyone know if it is his opponents debut too?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,362 ✭✭✭p to the e


    Dargan is moving up to HW? Could be a good move for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭SBG Ireland


    Details of upcoming documentary which culminates with fight on this show

    Another fight added to stacked card

    Thor Palsson (Iceland) v Chris Boujard (Team Ryano) 155lbs

    This is a rematch from a cracking fight on CW that saw Chris get the unanimous decision at 170lbs. Will the rematch go the same way or has the God of Thunder learned enough from their first meet to change the result....Sept 14th to find out!

    Allen Gus Nolte SBG Montana vs Konrad Iwanowski Team Ryano MW

    Allen is an unbeaten amateur 5-0 with a purple belt in BJJ. he's also about 6' 6"! Travelling from Montana for this fight he arrives this Sunday to complete his training camp at SBG Longmile Road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 pbee


    Details of upcoming documentary which culminates with fight on this show

    Another fight added to stacked card

    Thor Palsson (Iceland) v Chris Boujard (Team Ryano) 155lbs

    This is a rematch from a cracking fight on CW that saw Chris get the unanimous decision at 170lbs. Will the rematch go the same way or has the God of Thunder learned enough from their first meet to change the result....Sept 14th to find out!

    Allen Gus Nolte SBG Montana vs Konrad Iwanowski Team Ryano MW

    Allen is an unbeaten amateur 5-0 with a purple belt in BJJ. he's also about 6' 6"! Travelling from Montana for this fight he arrives this Sunday to complete his training camp at SBG Longmile Road.

    Can this be considered good match making? On paper both have prospects and one is going to lose their 0 as a professional?

    Considering they are creating this as a platform for fighters to elevate their career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Clive


    pbee wrote: »
    Can this be considered good match making? On paper both have prospects and one is going to lose their 0 as a professional?

    Considering they are creating this as a platform for fighters to elevate their career.

    Only if you consider "losing their 0" to be damaging to the career trajectory of up and coming pros.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 pbee


    Clive wrote: »
    Only if you consider "losing their 0" to be damaging to the career trajectory of up and coming pros.

    Well any fan knows it helps if someone is on the rise and the word "undefeated" precedes their name, people tend to take interest.

    I wouldnt say damaging, but its certainly not great match making in my eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    pbee wrote: »
    Can this be considered good match making? On paper both have prospects and one is going to lose their 0 as a professional?

    Considering they are creating this as a platform for fighters to elevate their career.
    Sure people would complain if you gave them handy fights and padded their record.
    It seems sometimes you can't win as a matchmaker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 pbee


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    Sure people would complain if you gave them handy fights and padded their record.
    It seems sometimes you can't win as a matchmaker.

    Well thats what match making is about, finding that medium.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Richy06


    pbee wrote: »
    Well any fan knows it helps if someone is on the rise and the word "undefeated" precedes their name, people tend to take interest.

    I wouldnt say damaging, but its certainly not great match making in my eyes.

    So how would you match them?
    If you go by that logic, no one would ever fight anyone. You're a fighter. There will be wins and losses, it's part and parcel of the whole deal. If a fighter went around worried about losing his/her '0' then nobody would ever fight. I'm an undefeated fighter and will remain so by not fighting anyone! NO ONE SHALL TAKE ME '0'!
    Luckily, most fighters don't think like that.
    Matchmaking at this level has a lot to do with MATCHING - record, experience in the cage, years training MMA, other martial arts, fights in other combat sports etc etc. Sadly, the name of the game is someone wins, someone loses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Clive


    pbee wrote: »
    Well thats what match making is about, finding that medium.

    I would have to disagree. The role of the matchmaker is to propose balanced, fair matchups of fighters whose styles would lead to an entertaining bout for the fans. It's up to coaches and managers to decide if the proposed match is beneficial for their fighter, evaluate the effect on their long term prospects etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Xlami


    This could be considered bad matchmaking if Euro Fight Night was a professional wrestling promotion. You can't build up MMA fighters and give them padded records. At this level there is always going to be guys with 0 losses. Also a win early on in the career isn't too damaging. I think these fighters are more concerned about getting the professional experience and finding opponents which will better them instead of protecting their undefeated status.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 294 ✭✭Kieran81


    fighters of any real substance are measured by who they've beaten not by being undefeated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 pbee


    Clive wrote: »
    I would have to disagree. The role of the matchmaker is to propose balanced, fair matchups of fighters whose styles would lead to an entertaining bout for the fans. It's up to coaches and managers to decide if the proposed match is beneficial for their fighter, evaluate the effect on their long term prospects etc.

    I agree to that you an extent, however its widely documented that its very hard up and coming fighters to make money. So a manager picking and choosing fights is unlikely. They are more marketable if they are undefeated (or very little losses), thats a fact. You could have a really good prospect and in 24 months hes 5-5. As opposed to an improving fighter whos 9-1 or 10-0 and there a bit of hype. Whilst in the mean time he has been fighting decent opposition that he will learn from.

    Theres a bit of ignorance coming in replies i.e. comparing it pro wrestling which makes this silly. Its opinions at the end of the day. If there is something I am missing I am open to learning what it is but I think common sense, and not a biased retort, will indicate that an element of what I am saying is correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭reganreggie


    Some of the best fighters in the country had so so records because of taking tough fights early in their career I.e Neil seery / henry fadape


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Clive


    pbee wrote: »
    I agree to that you an extent, however its widely documented that its very hard up and coming fighters to make money. So a manager picking and choosing fights is unlikely. They are more marketable if they are undefeated (or very little losses), thats a fact. You could have a really good prospect and in 24 months hes 5-5. As opposed to an improving fighter whos 9-1 or 10-0 and there a bit of hype. Whilst in the mean time he has been fighting decent opposition that he will learn from.

    Theres a bit of ignorance coming in replies i.e. comparing it pro wrestling which makes this silly. Its opinions at the end of the day. If there is something I am missing I am open to learning what it is but I think common sense, and not a biased retort, will indicate that an element of what I am saying is correct.

    While I agree that a fighter with an impressive record can generate a bit of hype, ultimately the big promotions will be looking at the quality of the opposition as well as the quantity. A fighters record is ultimately in their own and their team's hands. Coaches and managers refuse fights all the time if they feel it's a mismatch, not going to progress the fighter skill or career wise etc.

    I'm still not sure what it is that you think should be done? Are you saying that promoters should be giving people easier matchups if they are deemed a prospect? This is a fair and well balanced match and both of these guys have the potential to go on to have the 10-0 or 9-1 records you're talking about. Let me pose a question to try and see where you're coming from: if there were four fighters, two are 5-0, one is 2-3 and the last is 3-2. The first two are on the radar of the big UK shows, the others are only known nationally. Stylistically they are all similar.
    Which matches should the matchmaker/promoter propose first, and which matches should the coaches managers accept?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 pbee


    Some of the best fighters in the country had so so records because of taking tough fights early in their career I.e Neil seery / henry fadape

    Exactly, had Neils record been 20-4 or something like it he could have only a better chance of fighting in a bigger promotions, earning more money which he would deserve imo. I would think there is other factors too but my point is that it does make a difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭SevereMMA




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭SBG Ireland


    final fight card - few tickets still available on entertainment.ie

    6:30pm Doors Open

    Amateur Fights

    Michael Sheridan (Joe.ie) v Alex Swan WW
    Keith Coady SBG vs Bruce Lee-Roy Next Gen NI BW
    Tommy Martin SBG vs James McErlean YSFC FW
    Richie Smullen SBG vs Craig Slattery MMA FW

    Pro Fights

    Allen Gus Nolte SBG Montana vs Konrad Iwanowski Team Ryano MW
    Kieran Davern SBG v Martin Begley Heat MMA WW

    Going Live to Iceland TV at 9pm

    Amateur Fights

    Egill Øydvin Hjördísarson (Iceland) v Josh Mahoney (Ireland/KBA) MW
    Thor Palsson (Iceland) v Chris Boujard (France/TeamRyano) LW
    Bjarki Omarsson (Iceland) vs Denis Stanik (Poland/Shootfighters) FW
    Sunna Davisdottir (Iceland) vs Amanda English (Ireland/Kyuzo)
    Diego Bjorn Valencia (Iceland) vs Julius Ziurauskis (Lithuania/Team Torres Cia Paulista) MW

    Pro Main Event

    Johnny Dargan SBG v Vaidas Brazdeikis Shootfighters HW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭Henry9


    pbee wrote: »
    Exactly, had Neils record been 20-4 or something like it he could have only a better chance of fighting in a bigger promotions, earning more money which he would deserve imo. I would think there is other factors too but my point is that it does make a difference.
    Jesus some people are clueless.
    Neil Seery's record is the way it is because:

    1. When he was on the Irish scene he fought everybody. That's because at the time everybody fought everybody. Murphy, Leonard, Loughran, Dempsey, Roddy etc etc. All top class guys. They were the fights they wanted and the fights everyone wanted to see.
    Nobody cared about records then, nobody had an eye on the UFC. They just got in and fought. If you weren't there it's your loss because it was fcuking brilliant.
    If you wanted to pad your record you wouldn't have had any fights at all, because while there were fewer fighters around, the average standard was probably higher.

    Out of that 'era' have come some world class fighters and some pretty knowledgeable and experienced coaches.

    2. He started fighting in MMA when he wasn't very good. That isn't a slight on they guy he really wasn't. I saw his first or second fight I think and he didn't have a clue. That he is where he is now is an enormous tribute to the guy's work ethic and dedication.

    3. The start of his pro career was against top class guys:
    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Neil-Seery-14062

    Mick Leonard? Super fighter, 2 wins over Greg Loughran by the way.
    And should Mick not have fought Greg in case he lost? Should Greg not have fought Mick?

    Greg lost 6 of his first 7, but went on to beat Francis Heagney (future CW champion) and Norman Parke (in the UFC now).
    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Greg-Loughran-5234
    Should they have refused to fight Greg?

    Who else did Seery lose to?
    Paul Mc Veigh in his 4th fight? If he's given the chance to step up to that level of opponent what is he to do?
    Say 'No I might lose!!'
    Anybody could lose to Mc Veigh, but the guy's a fighter he has to back himself.

    Is he better or worse for fighting guys of that calibre??
    Should he have turned those fights down because he's afraid of losing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭SBG Ireland


    final (hopefully) running order. please note new start time of 7pm

    6:30pm Doors Open

    7pm show starts

    Amateur Fights

    Michael Sheridan (Joe.ie) v Alex Swan WW
    Tommy Martin SBG vs James McErlean YSFC FW
    Richie Smullen SBG vs Craig Slattery MMA FW

    Pro Fights

    Allen Gus Nolte SBG Montana vs Konrad Iwanowski Team Ryano MW
    Kieran Davern SBG v Martin Begley Heat MMA WW

    Break

    Going Live to Iceland TV

    Amateur Fights

    Egill Øydvin Hjördísarson (Iceland) v Josh Mahoney (Ireland/KBA) MW
    Thor Palsson (Iceland) v Chris Boujard (France/TeamRyano) LW
    Bjarki Omarsson (Iceland) vs Denis Stanik (Poland/Shootfighters) FW
    Sunna Davisdottir (Iceland) vs Amanda English (Ireland/Kyuzo)
    Diego Bjorn Valencia (Iceland) vs Julius Ziurauskis (Lithuania/Team Torres Cia Paulista) MW

    Pro Main Event

    Johnny Dargan SBG Ireland v Anthony Burger (France) HW


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭califano




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭SBG Ireland


    i have no choice as the Icelandic fights must start at 9pm sharp due to live TV deal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭pablohoney87


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Need a break if its being aired on TV.


    Edit: As said above :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭SevereMMA




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭JoeyDoh




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