Help with Cooling South Bridge, PLease

bladesofglory

Hi Guys

I need to get my SB temperature down to a more stable temp, I had planned on water cooling the mobo but the only company who made the WB has ceased business. MIPS.


Has anyone got prob with over heating the SB while playing games e.g. Metro Last night??

Gumbi

bladesofglory wrote: »

Hi Guys

I need to get my SB temperature down to a more stable temp, I had planned on water cooling the mobo but the only company who made the WB has ceased business. MIPS.


Has anyone got prob with over heating the SB while playing games e.g. Metro Last night??

You shouldn't really have made anther thread for this.

I assume you have a decent motherboard, which may even have active cooling; nevertheless, a good passive design would be fine. Titans run hot enough, as nVidia only allowed reference coolers (should have gone for 780s IMHO, but I digress), so having good airflow through your case would help with temperatures.

But as I stated in the other thread, AFAIK, southbridges are capable of taking a lot of heat (how hot is yours getting?).

Danger781

Gumbi wrote: »

You shouldn't really have made anther thread for this.

This has been pointed out to him on many occasions

bladesofglory

Gumbi wrote: »

You shouldn't really have made anther thread for this.

I assume you have a decent motherboard, which may even have active cooling; nevertheless, a good passive design would be fine. Titans run hot enough, as nVidia only allowed reference coolers (should have gone for 780s IMHO, but I digress), so having good airflow through your case would help with temperatures.

But as I stated in the other thread, AFAIK, southbridges are capable of taking a lot of heat (how hot is yours getting?).

Iv the Asrock Extreme 11 x79, 2011. temps when idle around 50, when playing games to to 70c easily id imagine???

Gumbi

bladesofglory wrote: »

Iv the Asrock Extreme 11 x79, 2011. temps when idle around 50, when playing games to to 70c easily id imagine???

Is this your southbridge or you sandybridge CPU?

70 is not much for either component anyways.

bladesofglory

Gumbi wrote: »

Is this your southbridge or you sandybridge CPU?

70 is not much for either component anyways.

Southbridge, the cpu temp doesn't exceed 35c

Gumbi

bladesofglory wrote: »

Southbridge, the cpu temp doesn't exceed 35c

With proper airflow you should be fine. Is there a thermal sensor on your board that's supplying the temperature of the SB to some software? Is that where you're getting the 50/70 numbers from? Because really, 70 is more than fine in my view.

bladesofglory

Gumbi wrote: »

With proper airflow you should be fine. Is there a thermal sensor on your board that's supplying the temperature of the SB to some software? Is that where you're getting the 50/70 numbers from? Because really, 70 is more than fine in my view.

I was playing Metro last night, and the PC shut down automatically to protect itself from over heating I presume?? As the Sb was getting really hot

Gumbi

bladesofglory wrote: »

I was playing Metro last night, and the PC shut down automatically to protect itself from over heating I presume?? As the Sb was getting really hot

Are you sure it was to protect itself? You should feel A LOT of heat coming from it if that occurred. A lot more than 70 degrees anyways. How do you know it wasn't the GPUs? How hot are your Titans getting? What's the airflow situation looking like in your case?

bladesofglory

Gumbi wrote: »

Are you sure it was to protect itself? You should feel A LOT of heat coming from it if that occurred. A lot more than 70 degrees anyways. How do you know it wasn't the GPUs? How hot are your Titans getting? What's the airflow situation looking like in your case?

The Titans are extremely HOT, at the top of the case where the heat is exhausted you cant touch the top of the case as the heat is fierce, So I presume its increasing heat temps of the SB

have 2 BOTTOM FANS BLOWING AIR RIGHT THRU THE CASE,

Danger781

bladesofglory wrote: »

The Titans are extremely HOT, at the top of the case where the heat is exhausted you cant touch the top of the case as the heat is fierce, So I presume its increasing heat temps of the SB

have 2 BOTTOM FANS BLOWING AIR RIGHT THRU THE CASE,

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bladesofglory

Danger781 wrote: »

You know what I REALLY FIND AWESOME? Pressing caps LOCK randoMLy while typing SENTENCES or words,,

That and using commas INSTEAD of FULL stops,,,

So back to the topic?

Danger781

bladesofglory wrote: »

So back to the topic?

ALRIGHT.

Gumbi

bladesofglory wrote: »

The Titans are extremely HOT, at the top of the case where the heat is exhausted you cant touch the top of the case as the heat is fierce, So I presume its increasing heat temps of the SB

have 2 BOTTOM FANS BLOWING AIR RIGHT THRU THE CASE,

I don't understand. You are saying the Titans are hot, but that it's because if the increasing temps of the SB? And you are making this conclusion based off the temperature of the case itself?

How hot do your Titans get under load?

What is your case fan setup? How many intakes/outtakes? Where are they?

knipex

If the top of your case is getting that hot then you airflow sucks. When you say you have fans at the bottom of the case do you mean one blowing in and one out. Both at the bottom of the case ??

bladesofglory

Gumbi wrote: »

I don't understand. You are saying the Titans are hot, but that it's because if the increasing temps of the SB? And you are making this conclusion based off the temperature of the case itself?

How hot do your Titans get under load?

What is your case fan setup? How many intakes/outtakes? Where are they?

The Titans are really hot under load, not sure exactly what the temps are though, I have 2 intakes and one out-take.

Gumbi

bladesofglory wrote: »

The Titans are really hot under load, not sure exactly what the temps are though, I have 2 intakes and one out-take.

Where are your intakes, wjere is your outtake? How hot? Benchmark please. Use MSI Afterburner, or HardwareInfo to get GPU temps. So is it your Titans or SB that gets hot???

Use Heaven Benchmark or something and loop through that at max settings or a bit and give highest temps reached.

deceit

Too me it seems he just went eni mini miny moe and landed on the southbridge and decided that is to blame.
70degs max is fine for a southbridge especially running what he is.
Poor airflow of the titans is most likely whats causing the issues but you cant be sure without testing and monitoring temps.

Gumbi

deceit wrote: »

Too me it seems he just went eni mini miny moe and landed on the southbridge and decided that is to blame.
70degs max is fine for a southbridge especially running what he is.
Poor airflow of the titans is most likely whats causing the issues

Indeed. Bit it seems like components issues and numbers are being pulled from thin air, so it's hard to identify an issue when it takes asking the same questions multiple times to get an answer ^^

bladesofglory

deceit wrote: »

Too me it seems he just went eni mini miny moe and landed on the southbridge and decided that is to blame.
70degs max is fine for a southbridge especially running what he is.
Poor airflow of the titans is most likely whats causing the issues but you cant be sure without testing and monitoring temps.

HI There

it wasn't as you put it"eni mini miny moe" the temps speak for there self, Is there a program I can test my gpu temps on,

So guys you know my case silverstone tj11, what fan setup do you recon??

Gumbi

bladesofglory wrote: »

HI There

it wasn't as you put it"eni mini miny moe" the temps speak for there self, Is there a program I can test my gpu temps on,

So guys you know my case silverstone tj11, what fan setup do you recon??

Please read my previous post. I specified programmes to use and a benchmark to run.

I also asked you (and this is at least the third time) what your fan setup is. 2 intakes and one outtake, they are located where?

bladesofglory

Gumbi wrote: »

Please read my previous post. I specified programmes to use and a benchmark to run.

I also asked you (and this is at least the third time) what your fan setup is. 2 intakes and one outtake, they are located where?

Please see a diagram of where I HAVE FANS.

glynf

OP, It may not be your board. Much as I love the game, Last light is seriously buggy. I played it through twice-had many crashes & freezes. Especially on the swamp level.

It's think your issue is not hardware related-have you had temp warnings/issues with any other games?

bladesofglory

glynf wrote: »

OP, It may not be your board. Much as I love the game, Last light is seriously buggy. I played it through twice-had many crashes & freezes. Especially on the swamp level.

It's think your issue is not hardware related-have you had temp warnings/issues with any other games?

Hi There

Played Black Ops and everything seemed fine, I ran Heaven benchmark, results are, temps at the highest point on the gpus was 80c,

Check the attach file

glynf

Dead link, but if its only Last light you have an issue with, chances are its the game. Give a look at the steam forums, keep an eye out for patches etc.

bladesofglory

glynf wrote: »

Dead link, but if its only Last light you have an issue with, chances are its the game. Give a look at the steam forums, keep an eye out for patches etc.

Its a pic image

Gumbi

Have you run any of the benchmarks I suggested?

bladesofglory

Gumbi wrote: »

Have you run any of the benchmarks I suggested?

Yeah check my link i attached to my last post, I also noted temps

Gumbi

Max out everything, including Tesselation. Let it loop for 30 mins so I can get a good idea of gaming temps at max. 80 degrees though is fine for dual Titans, to be expected.

bladesofglory

Gumbi wrote: »

Max out everything, including Tesselation. Let it loop for 30 mins so I can get a good idea of gaming temps at max. 80 degrees though is fine for dual Titans, to be expected.

I also noticed the SB was peaking around 75c during it?

Gumbi

bladesofglory wrote: »

I also noticed the SB was peaking around 75c during it?

That's perfectly safe. But a tad hot in my view, especially for watercooling. Have you got it overclocked? *

I assume you mean SandyBridge? Or are you referring to the southbridge?

deceit

Gumbi wrote: »

That's perfectly safe. But a tad hot in my view, especially for watercooling. Have you got it overclocked? *

I assume you mean SandyBridge? Or are you referring to the southbridge?

With his setup on Sandybridge-e the temps he is getting are fine and too be expected. He could always get generic chipset cooler for watercooling.
They wont look pretty but could cool pretty well but there is no need as you showed all your temps are fine.

bladesofglory

Gumbi wrote: »

That's perfectly safe. But a tad hot in my view, especially for watercooling. Have you got it overclocked? *

I assume you mean SandyBridge? Or are you referring to the southbridge?

I mean the south bridge,

I cant seem to get a motherboard water cooling chip set for my board, any suggestions?? On what block i CUD GET?

My CPU under heavy load never exceeds 50c even overclocked to 4.5

So would water cooling the GPU decrease South bridge temps? or would I need to water cool the Mobo chip set>

viperirl

bladesofglory wrote: »

I cant seem to get a motherboard water cooling chip set for my board, any suggestions?? On what block i CUD GET?

Nobody does waterblocks for the ASrock motherboards. Not yet anyway.
I had an ASrock Extreme 9 which would be very similar to what you have now. There is small fan that sits over the southbridge if I remember correctly. Is your fan turning on or is it off all the time?
When I had the Asrock mobo my SB fan never came on.

bladesofglory

viperirl wrote: »

Nobody does waterblocks for the ASrock motherboards. Not yet anyway.
I had an ASrock Extreme 9 which would be very similar to what you have now. There is small fan that sits over the southbridge if I remember correctly. Is your fan turning on or is it off all the time?
When I had the Asrock mobo my SB fan never came on.

Hi There

It turns on alright, Just seems to be overheating

btkm8unsl0w5r4

This is unlikely to be the southbridge, I had a similar issue with games causing shutdowns with a tri sli setup while a 100% load on the CPU for 4 hours did not. Also uniengine bench is a load of crap, it doesnt stress out the cards in the slightest, you need to run a crysis3/last light bench with Precision running to check temps, that will really boil them.

The SLI setup can starve cards of air, having a fan blowing at 90 degrees to them can counter-intuitivly cause poor air flow and the air is moving past them too fast for the card own fans to suck in efficiently. Firstly get a static pressure low speed fan to blow air at them. Make sure you cables and watercooling is not restricting airflow. Most of the air will be coming in from the bottom of the case, concentrate on bringing air into the case and not out the top. The top fan is competing for the same air with the titans.

Shut off the fans and test the temp. I got a drop in 10 degrees by removing fans from my system. Also spearate the cards as much as possible you can get longer sli bridges or use the tripple connector that came with the mobo.

Oh yeah, set a custom fan curve with Precision so the fans ramp up fast at about 75 degrees, once they get over 90 degrees the jig is up and they will throttle at best or trip the thermal protection.

Serephucus

As others have all said:

75°C is normal for your southbridge, that's most-likely not what's causing the problem.
You can't water cool your southbridge (nor would you need to) as no-one makes blocks for ASRock boards outside of one person on OCN who did some custom ones for a few people.
Run a CPU stress test to isolate your CPU.
Then do the same with your GPU.
Then play lots of other games.
If either the CPU or GPU stress tests cause a shutdown, that's the offending component, and we can look into it further.
If other games cause shutdowns, and the CPU and GPU tests didn't, then something else is amiss.
If nothing causes shutdowns, then it's Last Light itself being a stupidly buggy game.

In closing: STOP VOMITING NEW THREADS!


(Anyone established the whereabouts of that wonderful guy with the very green computer lately?...)