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Grass seed suppliers in Clare

  • 10-07-2013 11:45pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭


    Any suggestions? I'm looking at my own mix but would appreciate advice from an experienced supplier as well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭vanderbadger


    just do it wrote: »
    Any suggestions? I'm looking at my own mix but would appreciate advice from an experienced supplier as well.

    bought moregrass seed from dan mcinerneys lastyear, they had a big selection, have bought from kerry in the past as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭ABlur


    just do it wrote: »
    Any suggestions? I'm looking at my own mix but would appreciate advice from an experienced supplier as well.
    A group of your local dairy farmers buy grasseed in bulk as they have a purchasing group Agpro I think its called. Might be worth a call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    just do it wrote: »
    Any suggestions? I'm looking at my own mix but would appreciate advice from an experienced supplier as well.

    Hope ye don't mind me dragging up this old thread. Looking out for seed in the Banner myself......was wondering how u got on JDI? Did u buy in Dans in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Parishlad wrote: »
    Hope ye don't mind me dragging up this old thread. Looking out for seed in the Banner myself......was wondering how u got on JDI? Did u buy in Dans in the end.

    Seeddirect.ie just out of convenience really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    just do it wrote: »
    Seeddirect.ie just out of convenience really.

    Yep I've used them always get my own mix rather than a merchants mix with 5 or 6 varietys most of which I don't want.13 acres to do in a few weeks,6 kg tyrella,4 kg abberchoice and 4 kg Aston energy no clover .72 euro per bag delievered


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Yep I've used them always get my own mix rather than a merchants mix with 5 or 6 varietys most of which I don't want.13 acres to do in a few weeks,6 kg tyrella,4 kg abberchoice and 4 kg Aston energy no clover .72 euro per bag delievered

    Are they good with advice on what seed would suit best. First attempt at reseeding so hoping not to mess it up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Yep I've used them always get my own mix rather than a merchants mix with 5 or 6 varietys most of which I don't want.13 acres to do in a few weeks,6 kg tyrella,4 kg abberchoice and 4 kg Aston energy no clover .72 euro per bag delievered

    Funny I did 10ac a few weeks ago and that's the same mix as I used!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Parishlad wrote: »
    Are they good with advice on what seed would suit best. First attempt at reseeding so hoping not to mess it up!
    If its ur first attempt id get a bit od advice from someone in ur area,I know what works for me (mostly diploid grasses and very little tetraploid) so i wouldnt dream of telling u what to go for not knowing ur soil type etc.its the best money youll spen in a year so get it right at the start


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Parishlad wrote: »
    Are they good with advice on what seed would suit best. First attempt at reseeding so hoping not to mess it up!

    I based my mix on a lot of reading, probably way too much in reality! I also looked at what the likes of mahoney_j and other posters on here were using, Dept list, NI list, teagasc.

    What's the land type and intended use?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    just do it wrote: »
    Funny I did 10ac a few weeks ago and that's the same mix as I used!

    Do u mind me asking what that mix would be suitable for? I have 5 acres that I will be doing in next couple of weeks. Hope to get one cut of silage and graze for remainder of year on this patch. Have about 10 acres to do in September that I would like to get 2 cuts of silage out of.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Also do a soil test in advance ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    just do it wrote: »
    I based my mix on a lot of reading, probably way too much in reality! I also looked at what the likes of mahoney_j and other posters on here were using, Dept list, NI list, teagasc.

    What's the land type and intended use?
    You can never gather enough knowledge jdi,mother and father cant figure how i give 20 minutes every dinner time on laptop,Mentioned something about fertliser the other day to the old boy and he replied where did u hear that,I read it on the net at dinner time.The net sure theres all sorts of feckin weirdos on that thing,I hope ur not bringing any one of it around here!!!!!
    Theres a few farmers in my area who id have great respect for and would bounce ideas off them now and again,You cant beat a bit of local experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭munkus


    Parishlad wrote: »
    Are they good with advice on what seed would suit best. First attempt at reseeding so hoping not to mess it up!

    I used them for the first time last year and had great results. Your man is sound and he can advise based on soil type and what the field purpose is. I had heavy soil in one field, wanted 1 cut of silage in early June and grazing in spring and autumn. Based on this he advised 4 varieties and 2 clovers.
    Best advice he had was to put out 14kgs per acre.

    Bit pricy but very happy with the results and have another 6 acres to do this year and will use him again.

    Don't bother with soil test if you've put out fert in the last few months, will get inaccurate results.

    Throw down 3 bags of 10:10:20 ontop afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Agree recent fertiliser application will mask soil indexes for P & K but the test will tell you if you need lime. Of course if you're close to the Burren you mightn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    I hear you mahoney_j (scary, your username pops up on my swype keyboard and I've never typed it in!). This forum is great but talking to older generations is good too. I heard a good one lately. An intelligent lad knows that only 50% of what he hears is true. A genius knows which 50% ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Yep I've used them always get my own mix rather than a merchants mix with 5 or 6 varietys most of which I don't want.13 acres to do in a few weeks,6 kg tyrella,4 kg abberchoice and 4 kg Aston energy no clover .72 euro per bag delievered

    Set similar mix last June Tyrella, aberchoice and abergain no clover. Checked growth on that paddock and year to date has grown 10.3 tonnes. With no rain I'd day this particular paddock could fall off a cliff now. I didn't a mix could grow so much, really surprised when I checked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Parishlad


    Set similar mix last June Tyrella, aberchoice and abergain no clover. Checked growth on that paddock and year to date has grown 10.3 tonnes. With no rain I'd day this particular paddock could fall off a cliff now. I didn't a mix could grow so much, really surprised when I checked

    I'm probably being lazy and not searching other threads for this but would any of ye care to explain briefly the pros and cons of clover.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Parishlad wrote: »
    I'm probably being lazy and not searching other threads for this but would any of ye care to explain briefly the pros and cons of clover.

    Clover is a legume ie. it fixes its own N. It's loves heat and really comes into its own in this weather. It's ideally suited to grass mixes in pastures where SR isn't too high. It's not that it doesn't grow but it's growth can be variable. There's a common misconception that it doesn't do well where lots of N is spread. This in my experience is not the case, it loves N it just stops fixing its own as you're doing its work for it.

    If your farm isn't highly stocked I'd include in the mix. If you're heavily reliant on N don't bother as its only taking up space in the field

    I'm sure someone will tell me I'm horsing but what's new?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    Clover is a legume ie. it fixes its own N. It's loves heat and really comes into its own in this weather. It's ideally suited to grass mixes in pastures where SR isn't too high. It's not that it doesn't grow but it's growth can be variable. There's a common misconception that it doesn't do well where lots of N is spread. This in my experience is not the case, it loves N it just stops fixing its own as you're doing its work for it.

    If your farm isn't highly stocked I'd include in the mix. If you're heavily reliant on N don't bother as its only taking up space in the field

    I'm sure someone will tell me I'm horsing but what's new?

    You're right about not being affected by N, there is alarge dairy/ tillage man near here who has a very heavy hand with N, and his place is covered in the "weed". Breaks his heart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    If you want clover but you're reseeding an old sward with a lot of weed you're better to spread grass seed only, then apply post-emergence spray, then oversow with clover.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Quick one. Just wondering do ye put out fertiliser when sowing grass seed or wait for grass to appear ?
    Also if spreading fertiliser when sowing would ye do it before or after rolling.
    Might be good idea if everone put up their sequence of events for reseeding.
    Mine is:
    Plough
    Disc
    Level
    Disc
    Shake fert.
    Spread seed
    Roll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,489 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Roundup
    Graze or silage 5 to 7 days later(tight as possible)
    2 runs of ripper
    Spread 3 bags 10 10 20
    Spread 2 tonne line
    Sow grass seed
    Roll

    Don't plough unless nesecarry as ur burying ur most fertile layer of soil.also don't forget post emergence spray after 4 to 5?weeks,it's every bit as important as burning off before hand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Roundup
    Graze or silage 5 to 7 days later(tight as possible)
    2 runs of ripper
    Spread 3 bags 10 10 20
    Spread 2 tonne line
    Sow grass seed
    Roll

    Don't plough unless nesecarry as ur burying ur most fertile layer of soil.also don't forget post emergence spray after 4 to 5?weeks,it's every bit as important as burning off before hand

    Myself and father made decision to plough 8 acres next month. Full of ****e scutch grass. Will spray off. Cover in muck and plough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Sami23


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Roundup
    Graze or silage 5 to 7 days later(tight as possible)
    2 runs of ripper
    Spread 3 bags 10 10 20
    Spread 2 tonne line
    Sow grass seed
    Roll

    Don't plough unless nesecarry as ur burying ur most fertile layer of soil.also don't forget post emergence spray after 4 to 5?weeks,it's every bit as important as burning off before hand

    When you say ripper, is it a time harrow you use ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Here it's

    Roundup 4l/ac with 30 gls water
    5 days later bale
    3* 10/10/20 mixed with 2* glime per acre
    stitch with Atchison seeder 2 runs
    Roll
    At 3 leaf stage spray with MCPA product for weeds and lash on N from then on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Here it's

    Roundup 4l/ac with 30 gls water
    5 days later bale
    3* 10/10/20 mixed with 2* glime per acre
    stitch with Atchison seeder 2 runs
    Roll
    At 3 leaf stage spray with MCPA product for weeds and lash on N from then on
    Just picking up on this. 2 queries. Do you still need to roll after stitcher? I've never seen it in action but had assumed it spat the seed into the ground and therefore got good contact with the seed bed thus negating the need for rolling.

    2nd - this question comes up regularly. In your experience how soon does the grass usually reach the 3 leaf stage?


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