Applying for planning permission with someone else's plans

breffnij

Hi,

I've noticed a house in my local area about two miles from my proposed site in fingal. My wife & I really like it and found all the planning information on the fingal website. Assuming we have a builder in mind is it possible to submit these plans into fingal along with the necessary tests on the land? Also- if we are making minor changes (the shape of a window) would be better off asking the builder if they know someone (a designer/ draughter) rather than going to see an architect with all but complete plans??

The house got straight through the process which was in 2008. Its a dormer bungalow albeit 297 sqm in size. Any advice appreciated.

Mellor

Well for a start, you won't have permission from who ever did the design and drafting originally.
So there's that copyright issue.

Poor Uncle Tom

You should really read what you are agreeing to when you download information from any LA website. If you had taken the time to read it, it would have answered all your questions.

sinnerboy

breffnij wrote: »

Any advice appreciated.

Hire your own architect. Before you make the biggest financial commitment of your life place yourself in hands of an expert who can test your belief that this design is right for you. The right man/woman will not simply "give you what you want" without some testing -"are you sure" first.

JuniorB

Have you even been in the house?
We had some general ideas of exteriors of houses that we liked until we sat down with our designer to design it. The house looked completely different in the end.
As he said at the time you live on the inside and not the outside so design from the inside out (room sizes, flow, aspect etc).

Best of luck anyway

prewtna

JuniorB wrote: »

Have you even been in the house?
We had some general ideas of exteriors of houses that we liked until we sat down with our designer to design it. The house looked completely different in the end.
As he said at the time you live on the inside and not the outside so design from the inside out (room sizes, flow, aspect etc).

Best of luck anyway

Absolutely.

The worst mistake one can make is to start from the outside in. A decent designer will challenge your beliefs.

How, by the way, does one expect designers / architects to make a living with the approach as outlined by the OP? They / we spend a long time training and educating ourselves to help people with the biggest investment of their lives.

For your own sake, don't go down the road of transplanting that other house to your site - unless the site is exactly the same in orientation, size etc etc - it is highly unlikely to be successful. Your house should be site specific.

Think for example if the Aviva Stadium was transplanted out to a greenfield site - it wouldn't make any sense with its lowered Havlock Square end etc etc.

Tread carefully.

engineermike

Mellor wrote: »

Well for a start, you won't have permission from who ever did the design and drafting originally.
So there's that copyright issue.

As Mellor has said, they are someone elses intellectual property. Unless you contact the arch / eng. that is named on drawing submissions and negotiate the purchase of the plans at a reduced rate or something to utilize 'verbatim' for your site & build you are in breach of copyright.
mf