NCT Question

mountai

My car is due its NCT next month (appointment already made). I have been told that a friends car was wrecked when in for the test.The tester blew the Turbo and the engine whilst reving it for emissions test. The Co refuse to fix the car as they made him sign a "Waiver" before accepting the car for testing. As I"ve never had to have a car tested before and am unfamiliar with this procedure, can anyone verify that this "Waver" is compulsory ?. I have looked at the NCT online document issued by RSA, and they give circumstances where the testers may refuse to test a car. Nowhere (that I can find) should refusal to sign this "Waiver" be grounds for refusing a test . Opinions Please.

mickdw

mountai wrote: »

My car is due its NCT next month (appointment already made). I have been told that a friends car was wrecked when in for the test.The tester blew the Turbo and the engine whilst reving it for emissions test. The Co refuse to fix the car as they made him sign a "Waiver" before accepting the car for testing. As I"ve never had to have a car tested before and am unfamiliar with this procedure, can anyone verify that this "Waver" is compulsory ?. I have looked at the NCT online document issued by RSA, and they give circumstances where the testers may refuse to test a car. Nowhere (that I can find) should refusal to sign this "Waiver" be grounds for refusing a test . Opinions Please.

If Your car is in suitable condition, the test won't damage it. Sure is not so nice having the crap revved out of it but if it's a diesel, they need to do it for the emissions testing. They don't overly Rev petrol cars.
I would go so far as to say that if your turbo was to blow during the test, it was likely not going to last so much longer anyway.
No waiver to sign for petrol cars.

keithsfleet

The waiver is also an affidavit that your car is up to the rigors of testing.
But to be honest they don't do anything with the car that the car would do under normal circumstances, with the exception of the brake testing which can be unhealthy for the diff.
In such a case you tell them the car has a diff and they will test it by driving and applying the brakes.

biko

What's the make and year of your car OP?

mountai

Car is a CLK petrol. So I wont have to sign any waiver then?. I dont believe that this waiver can be legal. Nowhere does it say that they can refuse to test a car because of not signing any papers. Any garage that you leave your car into is responsible for damage that they inflict. Why should the NCT people be treated differently??.As for the car being up to the rigors of testing --- if the tester exceeds the manufacturers limits there SHOULD be a comeback. The only way that the limits are not exceeded is a rev limiter to be fitted or the owner be allowed to observe the Rev counter during operation.??

SV

Don't have to sign the waiver for petrol cars.


They did rev the crap out of mine when it was in there, hitting the redline on the car.
No idea why but it annoyed me immensely, asked the NCT tester when he gave me the forms back why and I got "Nope, didn't happen"
Very dismissive.

mickdw

Petrol cars are only revved to about 3.5k I think so no damage will be done there. I think the op is on the wrong track with their issues.
Where did anyone say that nct would surpass manufacturer limits?
It sounds to me that the ops friend went in with a piece of crap that want looked after and is now bad mouthing the testers when things went wrong.

Guy:Incognito

mountai wrote: »

The only way that the limits are not exceeded is a rev limiter to be fitted or the owner be allowed to observe the Rev counter during operation.??

Your car has a rev limiter.

It cant be revved for the test without breaking then theres something wrong with it.

mountai

mickdw wrote: »

Petrol cars are only revved to about 3.5k I think so no damage will be done there. I think the op is on the wrong track with their issues.
Where did anyone say that nct would surpass manufacturer limits?
It sounds to me that the ops friend went in with a piece of crap that want looked after and is now bad mouthing the testers when things went wrong.

I have no issues.I also believe that mechanics by nature are heavy footed when revving cars. The problem arises IF THOSE LIMITS ARE EXCEEDED . I would not trust all testers in this matter. For you to say"A piece of crap" is ignorant, as you know nothing about the car in question.I can confirm that this car was in immaculate condition, regularly serviced etc.

mickdw

mountai wrote: »

I have no issues.I also believe that mechanics by nature are heavy footed when revving cars. The problem arises IF THOSE LIMITS ARE EXCEEDED . I would not trust all testers in this matter. For you to say"A piece of crap" is ignorant, as you know nothing about the car in question.I can confirm that this car was in immaculate condition, regularly serviced etc.

How exactly do you say that manufacturer limits are exceeded?
The immaculate car was obviously not so mechanically immaculate if the testing process broke it.
Cars cannot be revved beyond manufacturer limits. They can arguably be damaged by being held stationary for an extended period at the Rev limiter. Either way, I don't see an issue with your petrol car.

Wibbs

SV wrote: »

They did rev the crap out of mine when it was in there, hitting the redline on the car.
No idea why but it annoyed me immensely, asked the NCT tester when he gave me the forms back why and I got "Nope, didn't happen"
Very dismissive.

I'd have raised holy hell in that scenario SV. I have done on the one and only occasion where an NCT tester was being a knob. I caught said gobshíte on phone cam swinging, nay doing pullups from my front suspension. I went straight to the desk and calmly raised hell about it. The manager was dismissive, right up to the point I showed him the video, then he got real apologetic. Tool. I insisted on a different tester and the second guy was spot on. Thorough but fair. So my advice would be break out the smart phone if you have doubts. Like I say that's my only bad experience as far as NCT testers are concerned. Never had one rev the bag out of my engine either and that included the muppet.

TBH I'd tend to agree with others when they say a well sorted car shouldn't have issues with being revved momentarily. However if some eejit is revving it hard for a minute or somesuch I'd take real issue there alright. Yes it should take it, but engines aren't really designed for revving that long while stationary. No airflow over the rads/engine etc. I'd imagine with a turbo this increases the risk of overheating and something going bang?

So yea TL;DR? You likely have a camera phone so I'd be using it in case you have the rare(IMHO) misfortune of getting a fcukwit.