Another 'My Chances' Thread

Canyon86

Hi folks,

My situation at the moment.

I m in the process for the reserves stage3,

I have a degree and masters.

I am working full time

ECDL,Driving,First Aid coverd

Involved in the community..

Am i on the right track??:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Brad Pittman

Canyon86 wrote: »

Hi folks,

My situation at the moment.

I m in the process for the reserves stage3,

I have a degree and masters.

I am working full time

ECDL,Driving,First Aid coverd

Involved in the community..

Am i on the right track??:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Nobody can answer that. Just apply like everyone else. Nobody is guaranteed to get in, no matter how many degrees, masters or being in the Reserves.

The interview is going to be all about you and your experiences in life. You obviously are very intelligent, and that will stand to you, but they want to give the job to someone thats suited to it. Not many people will be able to take the abuse, getting attacked, spat at, trying to stop a drunken fight outside a chipper at 3am, and all the joys that the job brings.

Your scenarios are what your going to be scrutinised on, along with your interest in the Gardai, and what you know about the Gardai.

What do you do for a living anyway? Did you apply before? and have you had a look at the scenarios that you will be asked on?

Canyon86

Brad Pittman wrote: »

Nobody can answer that. Just apply like everyone else. Nobody is guaranteed to get in, no matter how many degrees, masters or being in the Reserves.

The interview is going to be all about you and your experiences in life. You obviously are very intelligent, and that will stand to you, but they want to give the job to someone thats suited to it. Not many people will be able to take the abuse, getting attacked, spat at, trying to stop a drunken fight outside a chipper at 3am, and all the joys that the job brings.

Your scenarios are what your going to be scrutinised on, along with your interest in the Gardai, and what you know about the Gardai.

What do you do for a living anyway? Did you apply before? and have you had a look at the scenarios that you will be asked on?

Hi Brad,

Thanks for your reply, good advice there!

I currently work in a finance dept of a large multinational with the past two years,

This is my first time applying as I was too young the last time,

I have done an aptitude prep day alright which included scenario based situations, i found ti very helpful,

How about you?

Brad Pittman

Canyon86 wrote: »

Hi Brad,

Thanks for your reply, good advice there!

I currently work in a finance dept of a large multinational with the past two years,

This is my first time applying as I was too young the last time,

I have done an aptitude prep day alright which included scenario based situations, i found ti very helpful,

How about you?

I applied back in 2008 I think, when I was only 18. I got as far as the interview stage but didn't progress. Looking back I had very little experience, and there were people out there who deserved it more.

I then got a job in security. I was a bouncer and working in stores. I was dealing with the Gardai on a regular basis and got a real insight into the job. I did that for four years.

Then at the end of last year I got a job in the defences forces. Im still mad to join the Gardai and I cant wait for it to come up again.

You should be fine for the aptitude test. Its not really difficult, its just the time limits. It may be difficult to answer all the questions on time.

Its the interview when they separate the best, from the rest

Canyon86

Brad Pittman wrote: »

I applied back in 2008 I think, when I was only 18. I got as far as the interview stage but didn't progress. Looking back I had very little experience, and there were people out there who deserved it more.

I then got a job in security. I was a bouncer and working in stores. I was dealing with the Gardai on a regular basis and got a real insight into the job. I did that for four years.

Then at the end of last year I got a job in the defences forces. Im still mad to join the Gardai and I cant wait for it to come up again.

You should be fine for the aptitude test. Its not really difficult, its just the time limits. It may be difficult to answer all the questions on time.

Its the interview when they separate the best, from the rest

Cool,

You have plenty of rleated experience so!

Any previous work in security goes down very well i hear,

Will you leave the df for the AGS no prob? the df is a well respected job!

Ya the interview certainly does narrow the applicants down.

I ve applied for the reserves and I am stage two at the moment.
I think this campaign could come a bit too soon for me, I would like exp at the reserves under my belt,
I am 23 at the mo, so I have time on my side,
I would ideally have two years reserves and head into the AGS around 26/27 that way.

What age are you mate?

Brad Pittman

Canyon86 wrote: »

Cool,

You have plenty of rleated experience so!

Any previous work in security goes down very well i hear,

Will you leave the df for the AGS no prob? the df is a well respected job!

Ya the interview certainly does narrow the applicants down.

I ve applied for the reserves and I am stage two at the moment.
I think this campaign could come a bit too soon for me, I would like exp at the reserves under my belt,
I am 23 at the mo, so I have time on my side,
I would ideally have two years reserves and head into the AGS around 26/27 that way.

What age are you mate?

Yeah if I get an offer from AGS ill leave no problem! It would be good to get a bit of experience with the reserves, but apply anyway. The younger you are getting in the better for you. Im 24, so if I am lucky enough to get it and after all the training, and two years probation, I still won't be even thirty. The same goes for you.

I taught I had time on my side before, because there was supposed to be another intake in 2010 but that never happened. Just throw everything you have at it! and if you think your lacking something now try and get it sorted for the interview.

I'm really lacking in the community and volunteering bit, and I do not have time to even do any of that with my job, so ill have to sort something.

It would be a good idea to do those mock interviews too, they are a bit expensive, but they should help

Canyon86

Brad Pittman wrote: »

Yeah if I get an offer from AGS ill leave no problem! It would be good to get a bit of experience with the reserves, but apply anyway. The younger you are getting in the better for you. Im 24, so if I am lucky enough to get it and after all the training, and two years probation, I still won't be even thirty. The same goes for you.

I taught I had time on my side before, because there was supposed to be another intake in 2010 but that never happened. Just throw everything you have at it! and if you think your lacking something now try and get it sorted for the interview.

I'm really lacking in the community and volunteering bit, and I do not have time to even do any of that with my job, so ill have to sort something.

It would be a good idea to do those mock interviews too, they are a bit expensive, but they should help

Ya i get ya!

the earlier the better I guess,

I m just worried now about the recommended requirements.

Have you them met?

My first aid is out of date and must get my full license also!

Brad Pittman

Canyon86 wrote: »

Ya i get ya!

the earlier the better I guess,

I m just worried now about the recommended requirements.

Have you them met?

My first aid is out of date and must get my full license also!

Forget about first aid and your licence. The people who are picked are the most suitable. Not the person with the most courses done. There are loads of courses that your going to have to do in Templemore anyway, First Aid is only one of them. Try and get your full licence, but its not a necessity to join.

What do you mean by recommended requirements?

Canyon86

Brad Pittman wrote: »

Forget about first aid and your licence. The people who are picked are the most suitable. Not the person with the most courses done. There are loads of courses that your going to have to do in Templemore anyway, First Aid is only one of them. Try and get your full licence, but its not a necessity to join.

What do you mean by recommended requirements?

Remember that review group did a report and they sugguested that the following be deemed a requirement to sit the aptitude
-full license
-first aid
-ecdl
-swimming cert
-leaving cert 150 points

I ll try and find the link there

http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/an%20garda%20s%C3%ADoch%C3%A1na%20training%20and%20development%20review%20group%20report%202009.pdf

thekopend

Ud be as well to have them done, what if they open the application process and say the requirements are in force, where will you stand then. They won't have to give any warning, it will be a way for them to narrow down applicants. It's already been recommended to bring them in

Canyon86

thekopend wrote: »

Ud be as well to have them done, what if they open the application process and say the requirements are in force, where will you stand then. They won't have to give any warning, it will be a way for them to narrow down applicants. It's already been recommended to bring them in

Ya your rite.. I ll have to get cracking into a few lessons

Brad Pittman

Canyon86 wrote: »

Remember that review group did a report and they sugguested that the following be deemed a requirement to sit the aptitude
-full license
-first aid
-ecdl
-swimming cert
-leaving cert 150 points

I ll try and find the link there

http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/an%20garda%20s%C3%ADoch%C3%A1na%20training%20and%20development%20review%20group%20report%202009.pdf

Where exactly does it say that?

Canyon86

Brad Pittman wrote: »

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page 233 mate:(

Brad Pittman

Canyon86 wrote: »

Brad Pittman wrote: »

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page 233 mate:(

I don't agree with any of that. People shouldn't have to do them before applying..

In the Navy, (which im in), and the Army everybody does those courses together. Everyone starts from scratch, and at the end we're all educated to the same standard.

I have all those courses done, but I don't have a cert for them. Its going to be so much hassle to try and get them now. Whats a swimming Cert anyway? I did a course in the NMCI in Cork. Its called personal survival techniques, when your taught how to survive at sea. Is that a swimming Cert? I don't have an ECDL, but everyone can use a computer these days. I wonder if its the same as the CAPS course. CAO 140 points too? anybody could get that! If thats the case you could probably afford to fail a few subjects and get in.

The older system was far more equal. I just think they are trying to cut down the applicants because it will cost less to run the competition

Canyon86

Brad Pittman wrote: »

Canyon86 wrote: »

I don't agree with any of that. People shouldn't have to do them before applying..

In the Navy, (which im in), and the Army everybody does those courses together. Everyone starts from scratch, and at the end we're all educated to the same standard.

I have all those courses done, but I don't have a cert for them. Its going to be so much hassle to try and get them now. Whats a swimming Cert anyway? I did a course in the NMCI in Cork. Its called personal survival techniques, when your taught how to survive at sea. Is that a swimming Cert? I don't have an ECDL, but everyone can use a computer these days. I wonder if its the same as the CAPS course. CAO 140 points too? anybody could get that! If thats the case you could probably afford to fail a few subjects and get in.

The older system was far more equal. I just think they are trying to cut down the applicants because it will cost less to run the competition

I dont agree with it either mate,
But I can imagine that the reason they ll prob bring them in is to whittle down the number of applicants..

prefer the old way myself...
a garda s job has nothing to do with water and jumping in and saving people. sure havent we coastg,lifeb,lifeg for those purposes.
i doubt management would be happy at gards hopping into the water to save some junkie!!!!!

ecdl-maybe the use of word and excel but the rest you wont need

manual h- pure insurance id say..maybe patient lifting?

leaving cert-no need to bring this in imo. lc no jusge of a persons capability to become a decent garda

driving license- never a requirement before but i understand a part of the new course will contain driving so that makes sense

first aid- no harm i guess

msg11

I'm a Reserve at the moment, lacking the leaving cert requirements so doubtful about getting in this time around until I sort out the Maths and Irish (really a clear case of should have listened in school !) . Still will apply this time around just to get the experience of applying and put a plan in place from there. I also feel, there are people in the Q at the moment so to speak that rightly deserve to get in. I do feel for the people on the panel, if they where good back then they should be good now.

Have a full clean B license and done a few computer courses. I suppose if you look at the policing plan it could give you an idea of what they may like you to have as it would suit the plan !

goldie fish

One should keep in mind that the recommendations of this report are just that. There is no guarantee that the DoJ have adapted all, or even any of the recommendations made.

That said, there is, in life, no disadvantage to being able to swim, drive or carry out first aid.

Canyon86

goldie fish wrote: »

One should keep in mind that the recommendations of this report are just that. There is no guarantee that the DoJ have adapted all, or even any of the recommendations made.

That said, there is, in life, no disadvantage to being able to swim, drive or carry out first aid.

Thats true alright goldie,

And aswell a lot of rumours going around not just on this but elsewhere,
I emailed hq and they gave me a response that didnt confirm, I presume they are recieving little info also

thekopend

Canyon86 wrote: »

Thats true alright goldie,

And aswell a lot of rumours going around not just on this but elsewhere,
I emailed hq and they gave me a response that didnt confirm, I presume they are recieving little info also

A response to what, the recomendatios is it?

Canyon86

thekopend wrote: »

A response to what, the recomendatios is it?

Ya. I ll pm it to you ther

King Ludvig

The Minister will have to sign in an amending statutory instrument if they are to bring in these new entry requirements. It hasn't happened yet and seems unlikely if the process is to start as soon as some tipp sources are suggesting. You could imagine the outcry of how unfair that would be.

The report recommended that the driving course be part of the new student/probationer programme hence they recommended a driving licence requirement. The suggestion that recruits should be doing the driving course has now been ruled out so I wouldn't worry hugely about a licence.


No harm to have these things, but it is unlikely to become mandatory IMO.

Canyon86

King Ludvig wrote: »

The Minister will have to sign in an amending statutory instrument if they are to bring in these new entry requirements. It hasn't happened yet and seems unlikely if the process is to start as soon as some tipp sources are suggesting. You could imagine the outcry of how unfair that would be.

The report recommended that the driving course be part of the new student/probationer programme hence they recommended a driving licence requirement. The suggestion that recruits should be doing the driving course has now been ruled out so I wouldn't worry hugely about a licence.


No harm to have these things, but it is unlikely to become mandatory IMO.

Hi Ludvig,

Hope you are right! I agree about the amending of the statute
How do you know Ludvig that the recommened driving course is scrapped?

Is it hearsay or is there a link?

King Ludvig

Can't think offhand but I'll try and find a source tomorrow!