Landlord problem

canyoudigit

problem with my landlord. He very invasive of privacy. I live in small studio bedsit. He will knock on door whenever he likes collect weeks rent and when tell him to call back another time he will keep knocking until I answer the door or enter himself. I told him to pick a 1 day when to call and giv 24 hours notice but said couldn't do this as of hours he works himself. He in my room another time empty the electric of money and he never told me of this.

I went angry with him today and told me to pack bags and I said no, he brought brother or friend with him and made me pack all my stuff and leave. I am now in friends house and when leaving asked him for deposit and told me to **** off.

I am angry and upset, I am female and dutch and noticed all irish people and males in house. I think they pay rent bank or muntly as he not hit there door.

I saw accomadation not register with ptrb on site as address not listed. Shud contact them? So So Angry :mad: Bedsits illegal? I work and pay rent on time. (english not so good)

foggy_lad

canyoudigit wrote: »

problem with my landlord. He very invasive of privacy. I live in small studio bedsit. He will knock on door whenever he likes collect weeks rent and when tell him to call back another time he will keep knocking until I answer the door or enter himself. I told him to pick a 1 day when to call and giv 24 hours notice but said couldn't do this as of hours he works himself. He in my room another time empty the electric of money and he never told me of this.

I went angry with him today and told me to pack bags and I said no, he brought brother or friend with him and made me pack all my stuff and leave. I am now in friends house and when leaving asked him for deposit and told me to **** off.

I am angry and upset, I am female and dutch and noticed all irish people and males in house. I think they pay rent bank or muntly as he not hit there door.

I saw accomadation not register with ptrb on site as address not listed. Shud contact them? So So Angry :mad: Bedsits illegal? I work and pay rent on time. (english not so good)

You should contact the PRTB as you have been illegally evicted and the Landlord has no right to just enter your home without first giving notice(except in a genuine emergency). He also has no right to keep your deposit. You may be awarded compensation by the PRTB but it may take a long time(several months) for your case to be dealt with.

Esoteric_

He is not allowed enter your property without your permission.

He is not allowed evict you like that.

He is not allowed retain your deposit for no reason.

Get onto the PRTB immediately, it costs 25 euro to lodge a dispute and he's facing huge penalties for illegal eviction, retention of deposit, entering your property, and not registering his property. You could easily get compensation for any money you lose, as well as getting your deposit back.

daddyorchips

I agree with foggylad not only have you been evicted illegaly you where evicted illegally by a coward

canyoudigit

foggy_lad wrote: »

You should contact the PRTB as you have been illegally evicted and the Landlord has no right to just enter your home without first giving notice(except in a genuine emergency). He also has no right to keep your deposit. You may be awarded compensation by the PRTB but it may take a long time(several months) for your case to be dealt with.

address not registered on ptrb website but have rentbook, renting 3 months. No damage apartments. bedsit illegal?

daddyorchips

canyoudigit wrote: »

address not registered on ptrb website but have rentbook, renting 3 months. No damage apartments. bedsit illegal?

the address does not need to be registered for you to make a complaint

foggy_lad

If it is a bedsit as in has no separate bedroom and sitting/dining room and/or shares a bathroom then it is illegal and the fact that it is not registered whether it is a legal flat/apartment means the landlord is breaking the law.

endacl

I'd also keep coming back on here as this progresses. The posters above appear to know what they are talking about. I'm sure they'd be happy to continue to offer advice and support.

You've been treated very badly.

daddyorchips

foggy_lad wrote: »

If it is a bedsit as in has no separate bedroom and sitting/dining room and/or shares a bathroom then it is illegal and the fact that it is not registered whether it is a legal flat/apartment means the landlord is breaking the law.

really ? My sister lived in a bedsit where the landlord was a similar chancer

endacl

daddyorchips wrote: »

really ? My sister lived in a bedsit where the landlord was a similar chancer

That breed of landlord here is, happily, a dying breed.

foggy_lad

daddyorchips wrote: »

really ? My sister lived in a bedsit where the landlord was a similar chancer

Bedsits have been illegal for a few months now. Some landlords probably just reclassify their multiple bedsit flea-pits as shared houses to get around the law.

canyoudigit

Thank all, ring ptrb first tomorow, den lodge complaint. I hav referances from other landlords in ireland wich will help my problem.

Angry and upset:(:(:o

snubbleste

Could someone give this woman a basic step-by-step guide what to do?
Can you clarify what was in your studio? Was there a bathroom?

Prtb for illegal eviction, unregistered tenancy, unauthorised entry etc.
Local authority for illegal bedsit

daddyorchips

endacl wrote: »

That breed of landlord here is, happily, a dying breed.

seems to be a thing with bedsit owners, if op was my younger sister he would be sorry hate that sort of behaviour towards women or naive people in general

endacl

snubbleste wrote: »

Could someone give this woman a basic step-by-step guide what to do?
Prtb for illegal eviction, unregistered tenancy, unauthorised entry etc.
Local authority for illegal bedsit

Prtb will advise that re the illegal bedsit. If I were here with little English, I know I'd prefer that. Somebody in person to take on what was relevant to them, and explain in person who is responsible for the rest.

canyoudigit

snubbleste wrote: »

Could someone give this woman a basic step-by-step guide what to do?
Can you clarify what was in your studio? Was there a bathroom?

Prtb for illegal eviction, unregistered tenancy, unauthorised entry etc.
Local authority for illegal bedsit

fridge,cooker,micro,tea,bed all one room where I slept, own bathroom down hall. No sit room or seperate kichen

daddyorchips

snubbleste wrote: »

Could someone give this woman a basic step-by-step guide what to do?
Can you clarify what was in your studio? Was there a bathroom?

Prtb for illegal eviction, unregistered tenancy, unauthorised entry etc.
Local authority for illegal bedsit

well she needs to open a dispute on the prtb website,ring treshold also, write down when the landlord entered illegally and whatever else he did.

canyoudigit

daddyorchips wrote: »

well she needs to open a dispute on the prtb website,ring treshold also, write down when the landlord entered illegally and whatever else he did.

making list now, so angry

endacl

canyoudigit wrote: »

making list now, so angry

You should be. I'm angry reading about it.

canyoudigit

What cud happen landlord if i report?

endacl

canyoudigit wrote: »

What cud happen landlord if i report?

If what you say is accepted as true, and he is found responsible - big fine.

wexie

That sounds pretty awful.

Als je help nodig hebt met vertaling stuur me maar een PM en dan zal ik proberen te helpen.

canyoudigit

wexie wrote: »

That sounds pretty awful.

Als je help nodig hebt met vertaling stuur me maar een PM en dan zal ik proberen te helpen.

Ik zou fijn moeten zijn. Ik gebruik google voor iets wat ik niet weet.

QuiteInterestin

Hi OP, sorry you've been treated so badly. You should contact threshold as they offer free advice to tenants. You can contact them by phone, or if you are in Galway, Cork or Dublin make an appointment/drop into one of their offices' to speak to one of their advisors (this might be easier for you if english isn't your first language). Their details are here http://www.threshold.ie/about/services/adviceadvocacy.html#dublincentre
Good luck!

Esoteric_

canyoudigit wrote: »

What cud happen landlord if i report?

He can be fined up to 10,000 euro for the illegal eviction.

He can be told to pay your deposit back.

He can be fined for illegally entering your home, I'm not sure how much.

He can be fined for not registering, up to 3,000 euro if I remember correctly.

He can be made to pay you compensation on top of all of that.

endacl

Esoteric_ wrote: »

He can be fined up to 10,000 euro for the illegal eviction.

He can be told to pay your deposit back.

He can be fined for illegally entering your home, I'm not sure how much.

He can be fined for not registering, up to 3,000 euro if I remember correctly.

He can be made to pay you compensation on top of all of that.

That fourth one, I'd imagine, would be a multiple. I'm sure there's more than one bedsit in the building.

Esoteric_

endacl wrote: »

That fourth one, I'd imagine, would be a multiple. I'm sure there's more than one bedsit in the building.

It depends on whether or not he can swing it as a rent a room in a shared house type thing. In that instance, it'd be considered to be one unregistered property, IF he can swing that.

Either way, huge fines/penalties for the landlord.

OP, please don't let this drop. Not all landlords are scumbags like that.

wexie

Esoteric_ wrote: »

It depends on whether or not he can swing it as a rent a room in a shared house type thing. In that instance, it'd be considered to be one unregistered property, IF he can swing that.

Either way, huge fines/penalties for the landlord.

OP, please don't let this drop. Not all landlords are scumbags like that.

Are these fines etc. from the PRTB or such a body?

Would the Revenue not also take an interest in a landlord like this?

ABajaninCork

OP - I would report the bully of a landlord to Revenue. Call them tomorrow!

SpaceTime

OP: The normal situation in Ireland is that you'd have a registered tenancy and rent is usually paid monthly, not weekly.

In my experience of renting here, you normally also pay rent by electronic transfer (usually standing order) from your bank account each month directly into the landlord's or management agency's account.

I have rented and absolutely never met the landlord until the day we were moving out. They've a right to inspect the property but only by reasonable prior arrangement. When you are renting you are absolutely entitled to 'peaceful enjoyment' of the property which is your home during the lease.

Paying by cash is pretty unusual these days.

Make sure you pursue it and get your money back!

The rest of us have to comply with the law and account for every cent in our tax returns. I don't see why this guy shouldn't do the same.

You should have a chat with Threshold, they're the national tenants' rights organisation. They would be able to give you a lot of practical help and advice!

dobman88

I am genuinely saddened to read the OP. It is sickening some landlords are still like this. It happened with my girlfriend and her housemates in college a few years back. Good luck with your case OP. Hope it ends well for you

canyoudigit

Thank you all. Every bedsit house in area not registered and there is round 30 or 40 of theml.

endacl

canyoudigit wrote: »

Thank you all. Every bedsit house in area not registered and there is round 30 or 40 of theml.

30-40 bed sits?

So, going by what Esoteric posted, the landlord could be hit with a fine of €90000 - €120000?

He might behave better in future...

Pawwed Rig

Hi canyoudigit. Please call threshold this morning and explain to them the situation. They are a group who specifically deal with tenancy issues like yours.

Please see this link
http://www.threshold.ie/advice/ending-a-tenancy/illegal-eviction/
Call 1890 334 334

keep receipts for all accommodation costs you incur and related expenses.

If you need any help feel free to PM me or post here

Marcin_diy

Some people, not only landlords think that immigrants are stupid only because their English is not great. Don't give up OP. Fight for your deposit, compensation and honour. Send him to the black hole.
I met one employer like this. Second job in Ireland, average English, he said he won't register me with revenue. He told me that being a black market slave will leave me with more money. One day after I registered case with social welfare employer started calling me and begging for my details to register me and avoid penalty.

So fight fight and fight again.

quietsailor

canyoudigit wrote: »

problem with my landlord. He very invasive of privacy. I live in small studio bedsit. He will knock on door whenever he likes collect weeks rent and when tell him to call back another time he will keep knocking until I answer the door or enter himself. I told him to pick a 1 day when to call and giv 24 hours notice but said couldn't do this as of hours he works himself. He in my room another time empty the electric of money and he never told me of this.

I went angry with him today and told me to pack bags and I said no, he brought brother or friend with him and made me pack all my stuff and leave. I am now in friends house and when leaving asked him for deposit and told me to **** off.

I am angry and upset, I am female and dutch and noticed all irish people and males in house. I think they pay rent bank or muntly as he not hit there door.

I saw accomadation not register with ptrb on site as address not listed. Shud contact them? So So Angry :mad: Bedsits illegal? I work and pay rent on time. (english not so good)

If your living in Cork pm me and I'll show you where the threshold office is. I'm a owner occupier at the moment and used to be a full landlord and I'm sick of hearing about people like this. I'm embarrassed to be known as a landlord because of people like this, from what you've written here you will win this case.

The actions you should take are;

1. Write down everything you can think of immediately, add dates and time if you possibly have them - did you ever email/Facebook friends complaining about this? print those messages as they are proof these things happened at the time you said they happened.
2. Read the Residential Tenancies Act this writes down what the Landlord and you must do in a tenancy situation.
3. This is the Government Guideline to Housing Standards, it will show you what is allowed and not allowed for accomodation ie bedsits are illegal in Ireland since January this year. This link is the actual law called the S.I. No. 534/2008 — Housing (Standards for Rented Houses) Regulations 2008 but the first link is explained more clearly. Contact the local County or City Council if your accomodation failed to meet those standards
4. Next contact Threshold for advice, they deal with these situations a lot so they know what to do.
5. Threshold will probably advise you to take a PRTB dispute - see here for the PRTB dispute process. It'll be a good idea to look around the PRTB website generally as it gives advice on deposits being returned.
   I would ask Threshold about submitting information to the Revenue about possible undeclared income from a rental property. They must have done this before as well.

I saw accomadation not register with ptrb on site as address not listed. - The PRTB is very slow to update that list so the LL may be registered - I doubt it but there is a very small chance they are actually registered. If they aren't and you have proof of paying rent then the LL is in trouble, they accepted rent for an unregistered tenancy.

foggy_lad

quietsailor wrote: »

I saw accomadation not register with ptrb on site as address not listed. - The PRTB is very slow to update that list so the LL may be registered - I doubt it but there is a very small chance they are actually registered. If they aren't and you have proof of paying rent then the LL is in trouble, they accepted rent for an unregistered tenancy.

would the PRTB register any non-compliant property?

gaius c

Makes me sick that we still have landlords like this in 2013.

quietsailor

foggy_lad wrote: »

would the PRTB register any non-compliant property?

Good point, we're dragging the topic off course a bit but are the PRTB and the councils plus property registed automatically cross indexed? It'd catch a lot of the dodgy landlords that way

steddyeddy

canyoudigit wrote: »

problem with my landlord. He very invasive of privacy. I live in small studio bedsit. He will knock on door whenever he likes collect weeks rent and when tell him to call back another time he will keep knocking until I answer the door or enter himself. I told him to pick a 1 day when to call and giv 24 hours notice but said couldn't do this as of hours he works himself. He in my room another time empty the electric of money and he never told me of this.

I went angry with him today and told me to pack bags and I said no, he brought brother or friend with him and made me pack all my stuff and leave. I am now in friends house and when leaving asked him for deposit and told me to **** off.

I am angry and upset, I am female and dutch and noticed all irish people and males in house. I think they pay rent bank or muntly as he not hit there door.

I saw accomadation not register with ptrb on site as address not listed. Shud contact them? So So Angry :mad: Bedsits illegal? I work and pay rent on time. (english not so good)

Don't leave when eviction time comes because he has no legal right to get you out using these means.

steddyeddy

canyoudigit wrote: »

making list now, so angry

Canyoudigit If he is not registered with ptrb he may not be tax compliant. Notify the tax office and he may face a fine or jail sentence if he is not. Bottom line there's enough crooked landlords in this country don't stand for any of their crap.

lycan238

Esoteric_ wrote: »

He can be fined up to 10,000 euro for the illegal eviction. He can be told to pay your deposit back. He can be fined for illegally entering your home, I'm not sure how much. He can be fined for not registering, up to 3,000 euro if I remember correctly. He can be made to pay you compensation on top of all of that.

Regarding the 3rd item on the list entering the property without prior notice he could be charged/fined for every instance of this as a tenant is entitled to peaceful occupation of the premises. In my last tenancy my landlord only visited the dwelling once during my tenancy and that was to check the fire alarms.

wexie wrote: »

Could the Revenue not also take an interest in a landlord like this?

steddyeddy wrote: »

Canyoudigit If he is not registered with ptrb he may not be tax compliant. Notify the tax office and he may face a fine or jail sentence if he is not. Bottom line there's enough crooked landlords in this country don't stand for any of their crap.

If the tenancy is not registered and or the landlord is not registered for tax reasons then revenue and or the gardai would be very interested in this. Again if there is multiple tenants he could be charged/fined for each tenant.

steddyeddy

lycan238 wrote: »

Regarding the 3rd item on the list entering the property without prior notice he could be charged/fined for every instance of this as a tenant is entitled to peaceful occupation of the premises. In my last tenancy my landlord only visited the dwelling once during my tenancy and that was to check the fire alarms.





If the tenancy is not registered and or the landlord is not registered for tax reasons then revenue and or the gardai would be very interested in this. Again if there is multiple tenants he could be charged/fined for each tenant.

Indeed as I said before I know people involved in housing vunerable people and the amount of crooked landlords like this is staggering. The default position for dealing like this landlords is a zero tolerance report to the revenue policy.

steddyeddy

Marcin_diy wrote: »

Some people, not only landlords think that immigrants are stupid only because their English is not great. Don't give up OP. Fight for your deposit, compensation and honour. Send him to the black hole.
I met one employer like this. Second job in Ireland, average English, he said he won't register me with revenue. He told me that being a black market slave will leave me with more money. One day after I registered case with social welfare employer started calling me and begging for my details to register me and avoid penalty.

So fight fight and fight again.

Well done Marcin! Crooks never prosper when people stand up to them.

endacl

steddyeddy wrote: »

Well done Marcin! Crooks never prosper when people stand up to them.

Well.... Unless they are the kind that get voted for....

okiss

I was sorry to read about the problems you have had with your landlord.
From what you have told us it sounds like this landlord has a number of properties and he may not have registered them with the prtb.
Also I am sure that revenue may not be aware of all his income from these.

If you ring Revenue (tax office) about this landlord and let them know what properties he owns they may investigate him.
Revenue can ask to see his accounts/ bank statements ect going back over the previous 6 years.
If he has not paid tax he will get fined and have to pay interest on back taxes.
Also if revenue do an audit/investigation on him they will keep a close eye on him going forward.

lab man

what a banker !!