Canyon CF & Cervelo RS..Same Bike?

barney shamrock

Lads, considering one of these.
The canyon cf and the cervelo rs.
I don't race just training and the odd sportif.
My flexibility isnt great so comfort takes preferance over speed.
Just looking at the specs and i'm wondering if they are basically the same bike?
they seem nearly the same but the headtube on the cervelo is a bit taller.
not looking at newer cervelos as i've been offered a unused rs frame for 1k.
just wonderin if anyone has seen or tried both and if one is better than the other.
Also considering spesh roubaix but cervelo looks nicer.

C3PO

I can't wait to see some of the answers to this one!

endacl

What colour canyon?

Plastik

barney shamrock wrote: »

Lads, considering one of these.
The canyon cf and the cervelo rs.
I don't race just training and the odd sportif.
My flexibility isnt great so comfort takes preferance over speed.
Just looking at the specs and i'm wondering if they are basically the same bike?
they seem nearly the same but the headtube on the cervelo is a bit taller.
not looking at newer cervelos as i've been offered a unused rs frame for 1k.
just wonderin if anyone has seen or tried both and if one is better than the other.
Also considering spesh roubaix but cervelo looks nicer.

fat bloke

Well there actually was a court case between canyon and cervelo where canyon accused cervelo of copying patents or something, and it was settled in favour of canyon. So in a way, the OP isn't too far wrong at all.

Anyway - you'll have yourself a fine bike either way, just a bit more money in your post-purchase pocket if you go for the canvelo, I mean ceryon... whatever.

furiousox

I have a Canyon ucf and it's a very good bike.
Quite stiff but still comfortable.
I've never ridden a Cervelo (or a Roubaix for that matter) so I can't compare them.
I think the Cervelo and the Roubaix might be more comfort orientated than the Canyon, especially the Roubaix with the zertz (shock absorbing) inserts in the forks.
I think the Cervelo and the Canyon are very similar, maybe the rs is not quite as stiff as the canyon?
Again, I'm surmising as I've never ridden one.
The Canyons are great value and they usually have a sale when the Tour is on.
Is E1000 a bit on the dear side for a rs frame?
Wasn't there a group buy of Cervelos here recently?
Maybe they could tell you more on what they're like.
I'm built for comfort too, not speed btw!

Brian?

I wouldn't choose a road bike based on comfort, or to be honest, perceived comfort. Comfort on a road bike is all about fit.

I doubt you could go wrong with the Cervelo or Canyon.

Actually what's your budget for a frame?

cantalach

Cervélo don't make the RS any more, as you probably know. They changed the other bikes in the R-series to have a geometry more similar to the RS (taller head tube and longer wheelbase) and this meant that continuing to offer the RS no longer made sense for a relatively small company such as they are.

My RS turns 4 years old this month and has over 40,000km on it. I continue to be very happy with it still. People love to throw out the line that you can't race on 'sportive bikes' like the RS, but these are the same people who say that you can't race with a compact chain set, and my own experience is that both statements are false. The RS is incredibly comfortable and has taken me past the 300km mark on a couple of days with a minimum of suffering. I reckon it is a great do-it-all bike (like all the R-series models) and for less than €1,000 you're getting an absolute bargain.

furiousox

I think he said it's a rs frame for e1000, not a full bike?

Lumen

Brian? wrote: »

I wouldn't choose a road bike based on comfort, or to be honest, perceived comfort. Comfort on a road bike is all about fit.

Depends where you're riding. I took my supremely-comfy-on-the-roads-of-Dublin titanium road bike and 50mm carbon wheels down to Wexford a couple of years ago after the particularly bad winters, and after 80km my arse was in tatters.

Those tar and chip roads are absolutely brutal.

Brian?

Lumen wrote: »

Depends where you're riding. I took my supremely-comfy-on-the-roads-of-Dublin titanium road bike and 50mm carbon wheels down to Wexford a couple of years ago after the particularly bad winters, and after 80km my arse was in tatters.

Those tar and chip roads are absolutely brutal.

Those roads will be a killer on any road bike though. Frame geometry is going to make a jot of difference.

cantalach

Lumen wrote: »

Depends where you're riding. I took my supremely-comfy-on-the-roads-of-Dublin titanium road bike and 50mm carbon wheels down to Wexford a couple of years ago after the particularly bad winters, and after 80km my arse was in tatters.

Those tar and chip roads are absolutely brutal.

In West Cork we seem to have a variation on tar & chip which is more like tar & stone...

barney shamrock

thanks lads, maybe the first couple of replys were cervelo owners!
Ive been told the cervelo and roubaix are old mans bikes which is grand because im pushing 50 anyway.
The rs im looking at is a frame only for 1k.
I think the canyon might be too stiff and racy but the roubaix looks nice too.
So would the cervelo be more comfortable than the canyon do yuo think?

CptMackey

cantalach wrote: »

In West Cork we seem to have a variation on tar & chip which is more like tar & stone...

For all the world it seems like you are cycling on sand. Saps my energy no end, always feels like you have to put more and more energy to maintain the speed.

Op I'd go for the canyon. Everybody I know that rides them would never change from them