Turkey & Serbia joining the EU: the beginning of the end for the EU?

Dostoevsky

What sort of myopic madness is going on at the political centre of the EU? And why aren't people who view the EU as something more than an economic organisation shouting stop?

I write this as somebody who is strongly in favour of the EU as a vehicle for social progress, social justice, environmental progressiveness and much else. For me, Ireland is still overall a much better, more open-minded and confident place for its EU membership. The fact that the most backward and ultranationalist of people in Britain are bitter about it is consistently a reassuring sign that it is, on balance, still representative of a greater good.

However, it's clear that in both cases the EU is pushing for their entry for economic reasons above all else. Turkey, for instance, is so culturally at odds with western liberal values it defies belief that its entry could be countenanced. Leaving aside the illegal Turkish occupation of northern Cyprus, the state's savage repression of the Kurdish people, its refusal to face up to its genocide of the Armenian people less than 100 years ago and the latest repression against civilians in Turkey itself, it remains a country where political Islam and all its intolerance is heaving more than ever underneath the secular veneer which the Army maintains for the state. Most Europeans would have fundamental objections to political Islam and all its intolerance for individual liberty taking power in an EU state.

EU leaders agree to open accession talks with Serbia

Talking to Turkey

When the economic exploitation is over, the EU will be the scapegoat in these divided societies and the very thing the EU was established to create, political stability, will be fundamentally challenged.

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Do you think either of these countries should be allowed into the EU?

wendell borton

Only Turkey should be allowed in

Well if they get out of hand the Serbs have plenty of experience in sorting them out.

It's midnight tonight that they're joining is it?

Captain Chaos

Only Serbia should be allowed in

Ah sure, just let them all in at this stage. It's make the Eurovision more interesting. Even Israel are in that ffs.

jam_mac_jam

Neither country should be allowed in

I would be a bit worried about the migration issues with letting Turkey in, so maybe not Turkey or not for a while anyway. They have a very large population. Serbia, well yes. You have let Croatia in.

It would be a long time before Turkey will be ready anyway.

hfallada

Well I can't see turkey in the eu anytime soon with the recent demonstrations. But also Germans hate them and even through they have been there for 3 generations they are still called guest workers. We all know the Germanys are running the show. So if Germany doesn't like, there is little chance of you getting in

pablomakaveli

Only Serbia should be allowed in

hfallada wrote: »

Well I can't see turkey in the eu anytime soon with the recent demonstrations. But also Germans hate them and even through they have been there for 3 generations they are still called guest workers. We all know the Germanys are running the show. So if Germany doesn't like, there is little chance of you getting in

Cyprus and Greece are strongly against their entry too mainly due to them occupying North Cyprus.

Mike 1972

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Ah sure, just let them all in at this stage. It's make the Eurovision more interesting. Even Israel are in that ffs.

What the fuk has this got to do with the EU ?

I would have reservations (nowt to do with Islam or migration) about Turkey and Serbia joining the EU but no moreso than I would have reservations about letting Croatia join.

danthedolphin

Dostoevsky wrote: »

Turkey & Serbia joining the EU: the beginning of the end for the EU?

No, the Reich must be fed more fodder.