Irish People Using the World Chav

Something I've noticed a lot on here is people increasingly using the word "chav". It completely boggles me as to why we feel the need to steal someone else's word, when we've got perfectly good words for it - knacker, sham, and so on and so forth.

Am I the only one that gets annoyed by this? I hope not!

BUBBLE WRAP

No it infuriates me as well. :mad:

Jester252

Yes you are. It's a random collection of dots that we assigned meaning to.

robman60

I say world chav because Irish chav just isn't enough sometimes. :pac:

Einhard

Why the hell do people get so worked up about words that other people use to describe things? Surely there are more bothersome things to worry about!

super_furry

As a great Irishman once said; "It's only words and words are all I have to take your heart away."

I feel we should all reflect on that for a few moments.

Meangadh

I think a lot of people use it because they don't like using the word "knacker". I never use the word "sham" either, mostly just because no one uses it really where I'm from.

I don't see what the problem is anyway, we borrow words from other countries and other countries borrow words from us- that's how languages work.

Sergeant

Can it cracker.

Apanachi

Deleted User wrote: »

It completely boggles me as to why we feel the need to steal someone else's word,

Says he who writes in another country's language

Earthhorse

I agree, mate.

Frank Black

Apologies, but I'm suffering from outrage exhaustion.

kraggy

Though I wouldn't get as angry about it as the OP, I'd agree with him. I hate all the words Irish people lazily import from England etc.

The biggest offenders lately are "Get in" and people talking about their plans on Facebook saying "Come on Galway, let's be havin' ya!".


Grr...:mad:

That first one makes no fúcking sense whatsoever. Typically said by some United or Liverpool-supporting buffoon on one of said teams scoring a goal. If the ball is already in the back of the net, why the fúck are you telling it to "Get in"?

Radiosonde

Einhard wrote: »

Why the hell do people get so worked up about words that other people use to describe things? Surely there are more bothersome things to worry about!

What about using "surgical strike" to describe a bombing, or negro to describe a black person, or fag to describe a gay man...and so on. Though it's interesting in this case that it's an argument not about whether it's ok to label someone a chav, or a knacker, or a scumbag, but which of these terms and the stereotypes they denote is appropriate in Ireland.

WIZE

Chav World ?

Radiosonde

kraggy wrote: »

Though I wouldn't get as angry about it as the OP, I'd agree with him. I hate all the words Irish people lazily import from England etc.

I think the whole language might have been imported from there.

Laneyh

I don't think I have the capacity currently to be annoyed by trivial linguistic habits.

If I did, I would be annoyed by Irish people's adoption of the word 'pikey'

I suppose everyone knows what a 'chav' is whereas some of the other words you've mentioned have a broader meaning.

A lot of other terms are also region specific
In Belfast scumbag types are referred to as spides or millies
In Dublin people talk about skangers
In Cork people used to refer to scumbags as whackers (dunno if they still do)

So, I guess the term chav is just easier to convey meaning

kraggy

Radiosonde wrote: »

I think the whole language might have been imported from there.

It wasn't actually. Ever hear of Hiberno-English?

Radiosonde

kraggy wrote: »

It wasn't actually. Ever hear of Hiberno-English?

That's just our version of it. The internet age is probably just going to intensify the homogenisation of English, so people should probably get used to more terms becoming common across the various English dialects.

Apanachi

Apanachi wrote: »

Says he who writes in another country's language

Is your argument not invalid once you speak in that very same language?

T-Maxx

Deleted User wrote: »

Is your argument not invalid once you speak in that very same language?

You're the one that brought up the issue.

jimgoose

Laneyh wrote: »

...In Cork people used to refer to scumbags as whackers (dunno if they still do)...

Not so much these days. "Scobes" and "Whaaas" is more common. Irregardless, ah fink the best fing a'do is feed 'em ta pigs. Go through bone laahk buttaah. :cool:

who the fug

I love the virus that be English, steals from here, infiltrates there.

Sure Klingons complained about it

theholyghost

super_furry wrote: »

As a great Irishman once said; "It's only words and words are all I have to take your heart away."

I feel we should all reflect on that for a few moments.

Another example of an Irishman stealing the Saxon's words.

runawaybishop

Deleted User wrote: »

Is your argument not invalid once you speak in that very same language?

Languages steal words from other languages all the time, what's the issue with that?

Should we lambast the english for using the irish term "smashing"?

Playboy

Uhm.. Chav to me is something totally different to knacker or sham. That's why I use Chav

Fratton Fred

WIZE wrote: »

Chav World ?

It's like Wayne's world, innit mate.

stoneill

What's wrong with a home grown word like Skobie.

Hoop66

theholyghost wrote: »

Another example of an Irishman stealing the Saxon's words.

No, that was "wheels" and "wheels of steel" and sometimes "wheee-hee-eels of steel"

April O Neill

Deleted User wrote: »

Something I've noticed a lot on here is people increasingly using the word "chav". It completely boggles me as to why we feel the need to steal someone else's word, when we've got perfectly good words for it - knacker, sham, and so on and so forth.

Am I the only one that gets annoyed by this? I hope not!

Every language in the world is full of loan words. Chav is even a fairly new phrase in the UK. Doesn't bother me in the least.

Apanachi

Deleted User wrote: »

Is your argument not invalid once you speak in that very same language?

No, because I'm not the one complaining about English words in the English language we use

PopePalpatine

Playboy wrote: »

Uhm.. Chav to me is something totally different to knacker or sham. That's why I use Chav

Agreed, I use "chav" to describe anti-social English people, and "skanger" to describe anti-social Irish people, regardless of social background. You could be from Foxrock or Kensington, and I would still call you a skanger/chav if you act like one of Vicky Pollard's sexual partners.