New Claas baler ?

Fat Cant

Was thinking of buying a new baler and was thinking of buying a claas without the chopper on it cause they were very keenly priced . Does any of yee have 1 or do u no what they are like ?

ZETOR_IS_BETTER

What price was the claas with and without the chopper?
If you decide to do a bit of contracting would it not limit the amount of work you could do?

Fat Cant

Was going to buy a mchale with chopper for €27500+vat but then I heard bout this the claas with no chopper is for €17500 +vat .
Think claas do one with chopper for same as mchale .

ZETOR_IS_BETTER wrote: »

What price was the claas with and without the chopper?
If you decide to do a bit of contracting would it not limit the amount of work you could do?

grazeaway

Fat Cant wrote: »

Was thinking of buying a new baler and was thinking of buying a claas without the chopper on it cause they were very keenly priced . Does any of yee have 1 or do u no what they are like ?

why would you get a baler without a chopper? will it only be or straw and hay?

if your doing silage bales and a large number then a chopper should be added, reduces the number of bales so would reduce your handling, wrapping and plastic costs. aslo must easier to handle the silage when feeding it out and less prone to be dragged into the feed passages.

IF your not planning on using a chopper then would a S/H unit be better?

Fat Cant

The reason I'm buying it is to bale straw and maybe some hay . Was thinking I might go contracting and do some silage but for 10000 k more it sounds a lot .
Have heard that claas is not as good as it use to be ?

grazeaway wrote: »

why would you get a baler without a chopper? will it only be or straw and hay?

if your doing silage bales and a large number then a chopper should be added, reduces the number of bales so would reduce your handling, wrapping and plastic costs. aslo must easier to handle the silage when feeding it out and less prone to be dragged into the feed passages.

IF your not planning on using a chopper then would a S/H unit be better?

grazeaway

Fat Cant wrote: »

The reason I'm buying it is to bale straw and maybe some hay . Was thinking I might go contracting and do some silage but for 10000 k more it sounds a lot .
Have heard that claas is not as good as it use to be ?

if its for your own hay and straw i can under stand but if you plan on contracting to do silage then you'll need a chopper, i know i'd only do chopped bales and i'd say plenty of other farmers would be the same.

how many bales would you be doing a year? would it justify a brand new baler?

Fat Cant

Ill be making 3k bales per year can't afford to break down at that time of year . Ill prob be keeping the baler for 15 year +

grazeaway wrote: »

if its for your own hay and straw i can under stand but if you plan on contracting to do silage then you'll need a chopper, i know i'd only do chopped bales and i'd say plenty of other farmers would be the same.

how many bales would you be doing a year? would it justify a brand new baler?

vanderbadger

Fat Cant wrote: »

Ill be making 3k bales per year can't afford to break down at that time of year . Ill prob be keeping the baler for 15 year +

if your going to keep it that length you may as well buy the right thing in a mchale or welger chopper and pay if off over a few years

Fat Cant

My gut feeling tells me to go with mchale r welger .
My father in law has a new Holland baler in his shed and he told me he wishs he went for welger r mchale .

vanderbadger wrote: »

if your going to keep it that length you may as well buy the right thing in a mchale or welger chopper and pay if off over a few years

yellow50HX

Fat Cant wrote: »

Ill be making 3k bales per year can't afford to break down at that time of year . Ill prob be keeping the baler for 15 year +

if your keeping that long you should look to have it as flexible as possible. I know its more expensive but the chopper will allow the baler to be used more often (you can always drop the chopper if you dont need it). I know i'm goignt o try and see if i can get the straw bales chopped this year, its suppossed to make bedding a lot easier and again less bales means less space and less netting and plastic

newholland mad

grazeaway wrote: »

why would you get a baler without a chopper? will it only be or straw and hay?

if your doing silage bales and a large number then a chopper should be added, reduces the number of bales so would reduce your handling, wrapping and plastic costs. aslo must easier to handle the silage when feeding it out and less prone to be dragged into the feed passages.

IF your not planning on using a chopper then would a S/H unit be better?

After the abuse balers got with silage last yr I think anybody who even thinks about buying a s/h baler is mad (unless they know the machine) seen a neighbouring contractor last yr and the water flowing out through the baler while it was netting, also it had to be powerwashed most nights, rollers and pickup almost locking up with s##t. He bought a new one this season even though it wasn't due to be changed for another 2 yrs, said he wouldn't chance keeping it reckoned it would have a healthy appetite for bearings

Fat Cant

Well back to wat I asked is the new claas any good as a baler?

John_F

try to take a wider view on what baler is the best, think of how many bales made / balers are sold by the manufactuer, id say claas would be top, go outside Eire and very few mcchales. not saying mcchale have a bad baler, far from it. mcchale and weldger in the same category and the stuff is good. you could say that whole claas sell the most balers that most are not dealing with wet silage and heavy crops.

beretta686s

when did class ever make a good baler ha ha ha ha ha.............. mchale do a non chopper baler too 540 0r now 5400

mf240

roughly how many more bales per acre in a heavy crop would you have by not chopping.

If short power a non chopper in light crops might do.

st1979

I found the claas 255 made a physically larger bale compared to other makes. Made it difficult to fit as many bales on the same trailer. And yet I would not see much difference in the quantity. This maybe relevant to you or not

fiat10090dt

the none chopper claas mit be a 46 or 66 .the have different numbers now i though onily avabile in 5x4 tho