Small headlight bulb gone - NCT fail

Ideo

Somebody might be able to help, headlight has three bulbs, and a small one - neither the dipped or the full beams - has blown. Will this fail the NCT? I plan on replacing it of course, just need to get time and don't know whether I will before the NCT comes up

Thanks

drunkmonkey

Yes get it changed

rovoagho

My wife's car failed on sides recently, although the issue was colour -- one of the angel eyes went on her bimmer and it failed over to half-lit indicators.

jacko

yes , definitely get it changed. Had to get my car rechecked because one side light bulb was very dim. needed a new bulb.

its just a visual inspection and wont cost you but have all the lights working to save you the hassle. should only take a few mins to replace

mgbgt1978

Ideo wrote: »

Somebody might be able to help, headlight has three bulbs, and a small one - neither the dipped or the full beams - has blown. Will this fail the NCT? I plan on replacing it of course, just need to get time and don't know whether I will before the NCT comes up

Thanks

Is it the sidelight ? Or a foglight ?
Sidelight definite fail. Foglight depends on whether they check it or not. As far as I can see they will only check front fogs if they are separate to the headlamp unit (eg. fitted in the bumper or bolted on like a spotlamp).

davo2001

Any bulb not working will fail, I know the bulb you are refering to, its the side or parking bulb and yes it will fail on that, mine did back in May, its a visual inspection fail and would not cost anything to retest. But it should only take a couple of minutes to change.

Ideo

Cheers for the responses lads, will find time to change it! It's a right bugger though, have to take out the whole light unit and then screw off the back of the unit! Anyway, will get around to it!

keithsfleet

Ideo wrote: »

Cheers for the responses lads, will find time to change it! It's a right bugger though, have to take out the whole light unit and then screw off the back of the unit! Anyway, will get around to it!

What car is it?

Morpork

The night before my last NCT I noticed one of my side lamps was dead and it passed anyway. Maybe he just didn't notice.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Im actually getting annoyed with the amount of threads on here for nct fail stuff.

Just seems to be a lot lately. ....

coylemj

As usual, the answer is in the NCT Manual, in this case p.46.

SIDE LAMPS (Front Position Lamps)

Method of Testing

Side Lamps

Check that the two lamps showing a white light are fitted symmetrically to the front of the vehicle and:

1. when illuminated are clearly visible.
2. are securely fixed.


Reasons for failure:

1 Missing or not clearly visible.
2 Lens broken or missing.
3 Not working or faulty.
4 Not white in colour.
5 Not fitted symmetrically.
6 Not of the same dimensions and intensity.
7 Insecurely mounted.
8 Contains water / moisture.
9 Switch does not operate correctly.

http://www.nct.ie/NCT%20Manual%20Revise%20May%202012.pdf

mgbgt1978

We still don't know if it's a side light or fog light bulb.
Some cars (Fiat Punto, Citroen C5, etc.) have front fog lights built into the main headlamp assembly.....the NCT manual does not mention/illustrate these, only fog lights that are separate from the headlamp.
The OP said it is a 'small bulb', could be a H1, H2 or any of the smaller size halogen bulbs.

biko

As long as OP hasn't come back to say what car it is so we can figure out what bulb he's on about it's just a guessing game.
I was assuming it's one of those with a tiny parking bulb incorporated into the headlight housing. Sometimes boyracers put blue tint lights in them.

Number 7 in this pic

Ideo

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Im actually getting annoyed with the amount of threads on here for nct fail stuff.

Just seems to be a lot lately. ....

Didn't realise the thread was generating as many responses

To start, perhaps a thread can be created for any NCT questions and you can make it a sticky?

Ideo

coylemj wrote: »

As usual, the answer is in the NCT Manual, in this case p.46.

SIDE LAMPS (Front Position Lamps)

Method of Testing

Side Lamps

Check that the two lamps showing a white light are fitted symmetrically to the front of the vehicle and:

1. when illuminated are clearly visible.
2. are securely fixed.


Reasons for failure:

1 Missing or not clearly visible.
2 Lens broken or missing.
3 Not working or faulty.
4 Not white in colour.
5 Not fitted symmetrically.
6 Not of the same dimensions and intensity.
7 Insecurely mounted.
8 Contains water / moisture.
9 Switch does not operate correctly.

http://www.nct.ie/NCT%20Manual%20Revise%20May%202012.pdf

Didn't realise there was an NCT manual, never thought about it really. That's useful though, maybe link this in the first post of the NCT sticky I suggest above?

Toyotafanboi

biko wrote: »

As long as OP hasn't come back to say what car it is so we can figure out what bulb he's on about it's just a guessing game.
I was assuming it's one of those with a tiny parking bulb incorporated into the headlight housing. Sometimes boyracers put blue tint lights in them.

Number 7 in this pic

a parking bulb not working is still a fail.

Ideo

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

We still don't know if it's a side light or fog light bulb.
Some cars (Fiat Punto, Citroen C5, etc.) have front fog lights built into the main headlamp assembly.....the NCT manual does not mention/illustrate these, only fog lights that are separate from the headlamp.
The OP said it is a 'small bulb', could be a H1, H2 or any of the smaller size halogen bulbs.

Car is a hyundai coupe gen 3

and I'm struggling to find an image of the headlight that's up close enough to actually point out the bulb

I'll take a photo of my own tomorrow and throw it up here to avoid confusion

biko wrote: »

As long as OP hasn't come back to say what car it is so we can figure out what bulb he's on about it's just a guessing game.
I was assuming it's one of those with a tiny parking bulb incorporated into the headlight housing. Sometimes boyracers put blue tint lights in them.

Number 7 in this pic

I'm no by racer There should be a shudder smiley icon!!

bri007

Sorry to bring up old thread,I am just back from the nct test.my car failed for a front headlight bulb. The tester said I have 28 days to get it sorted,however he said it's €28 for a re check, I thought it's free for this?

bigboss1986

bri007 wrote: »

Sorry to bring up old thread,I am just back from the nct test.my car failed for a front headlight bulb. The tester said I have 28 days to get it sorted,however he said it's €28 for a re check, I thought it's free for this?

No He has to do lights alignment again.So for 2 min they will charge u 28.Why u did not checklights before nct?

bri007

bigboss1986 wrote: »

No He has to do lights alignment again.So for 2 min they will charge u 28.Why u did not checklights before nct?

Yeah I checked it before I left the house,literally a 10 minute drive and it must of blown when he turned it on,just my luck!it passed everything else. I'll go to halfords and get someone to fit it for me tomorrow and get it retested straight away!

I'm raging

Missyelliot2

bri007 wrote: »

Sorry to bring up old thread,I am just back from the nct test.my car failed for a front headlight bulb. The tester said I have 28 days to get it sorted,however he said it's €28 for a re check, I thought it's free for this?

Same thing happened me. I had to fork out another €28 too

bigboss1986

bri007 wrote: »

Yeah I checked it before I left the house,literally a 10 minute drive and it must of blown when he turned it on,just my luck!it passed everything else. I'll go to halfords and get someone to fit it for me tomorrow and get it retested straight away!

I'm raging

Dont let Halfords to fit ur bulb!!:eek:

bri007

bigboss1986 wrote: »

Dont let Halfords to fit ur bulb!!:eek:

Ye?are they bad?

bigboss1986

bri007 wrote: »

Ye?are they bad?

They charge from 6 euro for fitting and sometimes they dont do it properly...Just google how to change in your car for free

bri007

yeah ill try get it done myself, thanks

punisher5112

bri007 wrote: »

Ye?are they bad?

Can you not give it a go to fit yourself some car's aren't hard what have you got.

bri007

punisher5112 wrote: »

Can you not give it a go to fit yourself some car's aren't hard what have you got.

I was just doing a bit of googling there on info on how to do it. Its a 2005 for fiesta, seemingly I will have to take the unit out to get at the bulb

bri007

i dont have the correct screwdriver to do it, just looked at it there

punisher5112

bri007 wrote: »

i dont have the correct screwdriver to do it, just looked at it there

I can't remember the correct name but try a flat head sometimes they will fit.
Be careful not to destroy the head of screw. They are a very easy light to deal with. Have a look where side light is then go to rear and see if you can see little lamp holder. I am so use to doing this it's like I'm on auto and should be able to explain better.

bri007

Ill give it a try thanks

Roycropper63

is called a torx head,, herself has an 05 fiesta and the grille needs to be removed first,,,on ours it just clips out on the top and pulled more or less off the front bumper. then its i think 2 torx head screws,, and the headlamp sits on a little tit or spud that you will have to lever it off gently,,,hope this helps,,

bri007

Roycropper63 wrote: »

is called a torx head,, herself has an 05 fiesta and the grille needs to be removed first,,,on ours it just clips out on the top and pulled more or less off the front bumper. then its i think 2 torx head screws,, and the headlamp sits on a little tit or spud that you will have to lever it off gently,,,hope this helps,,

I dont think i have a torx head handy, ill ask around and see if i can get one. Seems tricky enough for a bulb, typical ford Thanks for the info and help

kona

Just bring it to a motor factors to fit it if you don't have the tools. Halfords ain't THAT bad, they just get bet around on message boards because it makes people think they know their **** to say they are ****. They fit hundreds of bulbs, I'm sure they can manage a fiesta.