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Want To Go To The US of A

  • 25-06-2013 4:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭


    Having a nightmare looking around, can't make head nor tales of it.

    Simple question really.

    I'm 29 and would love to just piss off outta this Ireland hole.

    Can you get a visa where you can just go and try find work or do you have to have it all arranged before you head off?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    It has to be pre-arranged. You cant just show up and look for work.

    And to get a work visa isnt easy at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭silja


    What Trees said. Now technically, you can go on the visa waiver program and look for work/ interview, but would then need to come home and wait till your employer sorts out the paperwork and gets you the work visa. Unless you have rare skills/ lots of experience/ a Masters you are very unlikely to get an employer to hire you as it takes time and $5000+ for them to get you over.

    Considering you are relatively young, Australia or Canada may be a better option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Sneek in it is so :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Sneek in it is so :D

    Enjoy deportation or never getting to come home to see your family again. You'll never be able to get a driver's licence or health insurance.

    Best of luck with sneaking in! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Ok so i ain't going to sneek in that was a joke.

    I know a lot of people in New York with businesses which would be willing to sponsor me and give me a job (from big office type businesses to bars, restaurants and so on) mainly from family, friends.

    If they did sponsor me just to get me over would it matter if it was a job in a big company like Goldman Sachs or a low paid job say in a Restaurant - Bar???

    Would they reject a visa even if i was sponsored but just because its crappy bar work, because they would rather a US citizen get it??? If you get me.

    EDIT:

    And if i managed to get a visa for work in new york, do i have to stay in that job, could i work say 6 months and move states, I want to go more west.

    Example: Could i work there a while and move to say LA and look for work there, or would one have to go through the whole sponsor thing again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭Palmy


    No you will have to stay with the company that has sponsored you. Unless they have a company in CA and you can transfer within the company you are out of luck. You can't just work for six months up sticks and go get another job elsewhere. The bigger the company the easier it would be to sponsor you though. They look into a company taxes etc so the company has to be doing everything on board.
    Unless it is a direct relative I very much doubt someone will sponsor you because of the amount of money it cost and the investigative background the company has to go through, its just way to much hassle unless you are highly qualified in a field they are looking for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭Palmy


    A lot of American small to medium business owners have no idea how hard it is to legally sponsor someone. Trust me, a lot just think they can fill out paper work and pay a small fee and hay presto they've got you a visa. This unfortunately is far from the truth. Min $5000+ to sponsor you with certain restrictions. When they see this you can see why they wont sponsor. Financially it doesn't make sense to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Palmy wrote: »
    No you will have to stay with the company that has sponsored you. Unless they have a company in CA and you can transfer within the company you are out of luck. You can't just work for six months up sticks and go get another job elsewhere. The bigger the company the easier it would be to sponsor you though. They look into a company taxes etc so the company has to be doing everything on board.
    Unless it is a direct relative I very much doubt someone will sponsor you because of the amount of money it cost and the investigative background the company has to go through, its just way to much hassle unless you are highly qualified in a field they are looking for.

    Its a very close relative :) and if it happens i will be paying the money myself to cover their costs, 5000-10,000 is fine, anymore and not a hope.

    they have offices in a good few states but of course LA is not one of them :mad

    so its pretty much you work for the company that sponsored you and if you leave that job, its home time.

    If i ended up staying for a long time does this ever change? or am i stuck working there in the same job or company forever.


    Sorry, i should do more research :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭Palmy


    Once you are their after a curtain amount of time I am pretty sure you can apply for a Greencard (not 100%) sure though. Most people work and still apply for the Greencard (DV Lottery) and hope they get it while being sponsored.I won on the DV Lottery so unsure of the other.If you have a close relative willing to do that for you then go for it.But by you paying the money to him for your sponsorship it is a very big NO,NO if immigration found this out your relative and you will be in a lot of trouble so be advised and I don't advise or condone this at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Palmy wrote: »
    Once you are their after a curtain amount of time I am pretty sure you can apply for a Greencard (not 100%) sure though. Most people work and still apply for the Greencard (DV Lottery) and hope they get it while being sponsored.I won on the DV Lottery so unsure of the other.If you have a close relative willing to do that for you then go for it.But by you paying the money to him for your sponsorship it is a very big NO,NO if immigration found this out your relative and you will be in a lot of trouble so be advised and I don't advise or condone this at all.

    So i get a green card and then i can work where i want????

    Again sorry for all the Q's


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭Palmy


    Yep once you get your Greencard you can work or live where ever you want. Once you have your Greencard for five years you can apply for citizenship .Unless you marry an American and get your Greencard the wait for citizenship is only three years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Palmy wrote: »
    Yep once you get your Greencard you can work or live where ever you want. Once you have your Greencard for five years you can apply for citizenship .Unless you marry an American and get your Greencard the wait for citizenship is only three years.

    And one last Question haha.

    The green card is only in lottery form or not????

    You can get it that way i know as you've said if your lucky.

    But do you auto qualify after so many years?

    Thanks for all the help :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    You can't pay the costs of the visa, though I'm not sure how this is checked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    You can't pay the costs of the visa, though I'm not sure how this is checked

    I won't ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭Palmy


    I am pretty sure you can apply for residency after about 5-7 years working, living, and paying taxes. Thus getting your Greencard (permanent residency)But that's also 5-7 years that you can apply while working for the DV lottery, giving you a better chance. I don't know what age you are but if you lived here and marry an American you want have a problem. Your visa status will be changed from being a visa status to permanent resident just by marriage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Palmy wrote: »
    I am pretty sure you can apply for residency after about 5-7 years working, living, and paying taxes. Thus getting your Greencard (permanent residency)But that's also 5-7 years that you can apply while working for the DV lottery, giving you a better chance. I don't know what age you are but if you lived here and marry an American you want have a problem. Your visa status will be changed from being a visa status to permanent resident just by marriage.

    Cool stuff, thanks for all the answers, much appreciated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭lonestargirl


    Palmy wrote: »
    I am pretty sure you can apply for residency after about 5-7 years working, living, and paying taxes. Thus getting your Greencard (permanent residency)But that's also 5-7 years that you can apply while working for the DV lottery, giving you a better chance. I don't know what age you are but if you lived here and marry an American you want have a problem. Your visa status will be changed from being a visa status to permanent resident just by marriage.

    Not automatically, you always have to be sponsored for a green card. It can be an employer or a spouse or certain other family members who do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    OP, if a company is sponsoring you for a work visa, it usually awarded on a year by year basis. You won't get a permanent one. So the company in question have to re petition the US govt for another visa when the first one runs out, which needs more thousands of dollars spent on you. They also very often have to prove that there are no US citizen that are able to do the job that you are being brought in from a foreign country to do. In a country as big and diverse in the US, that can be quite a tall order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭rockonollie


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Its a very close relative :) and if it happens i will be paying the money myself to cover their costs, 5000-10,000 is fine, anymore and not a hope.

    Slight problem there.....you are not allowed pay the cost of the visa application......if USCIS finds out, your application will immediately be turned down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Got my visa baby,OH YEAH, see all ya bitches in hollywood.

    BOOM!!!!!!!!!

    p.s - Knowing people is great :-)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Got my visa baby,OH YEAH, see all ya bitches in hollywood.

    BOOM!!!!!!!!!

    p.s - Knowing people is great :-)

    You couldn't of got it that quick. How about telling us who they.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭silja


    Unless you mean the visa waiver, this seems extremely unlikely, knowing people or no. What type of visa did you get, when did you apply for it, and when was your interview at the embassy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭rockonollie


    June 25th.....asking questions about what kinds of visas are available.

    July 9th......visa approved...on way to America.

    Doesn't even come close to adding up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Not a hope. Even as spouse of a American national it was months coming through.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Trolling?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Paul_Hacket


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Got my visa baby,OH YEAH, see all ya bitches in hollywood.

    BOOM!!!!!!!!!

    p.s - Knowing people is great :-)

    Good for you! During your visit to Hollywood are you also going to pick up the imaginary best actor Oscar that the academy are giving you for your performance above?

    p.s. - Posting fantasist nonsense on boards.ie is great and not at all a sign of being an utter sad sack ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Bunch of jealous bastards on here or do people not feel happy when others catch a little break for once in their lives. I said i knew people. I got what i needed to get and got it quicker than most.

    I'm not bragging i'm just happy i don't have to go through all the shíte now. (trying to find a job,sponsor etc.....) It's all sorted.

    I leave in august, so happy days. :)

    We'll end the thread with that thank you as i'm not looking for abuse for no reason.

    Cheers.

    P.S - Thanks to everyone that helped before, much appreciated and thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Paul_Hacket


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Bunch of jealous bastards on here or do people not feel happy when others catch a little break for once in their lives. I said i knew people. I got what i needed to get and got it quicker than most.


    P.S - Thanks to everyone that helped before, much appreciated and thank you.

    LOL. Okay, I'll bite. What exactly did you "get"? A work visa to the USA? Which kind? A H1-B or an L-1 perhaps?

    And you achieved this in a matter of weeks, yes? Who exactly do you "know" that helped you "get" this? The US ambassador to Ireland?

    Lastly, and most importantly - do you really believe that other people are as stupid as you are? That's adorable.

    P.S. - not actually a "jealous bastard" since I've been a legal resident of the USA with a work visa for the past 20 years. What you are claiming above is literally impossible, but it's nice to see that there are still dreamers in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Going on an A visa.


    I'm not going to name anyone sorry, I'm not dreaming, and just looking to better my life elsewhere.

    I could go on but i'm not entertaining anybody on here either, Thats me finished on the issue.

    Thanks again for everyones help. You never know this time next year we could be american boardsie friends :pac:

    Oh and before anyone starts going on about how i cant work on the A visa, Read above a few posts where i say ITS SORTED

    Kiss Kiss Kiss x x x


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭rockonollie


    Congrats on being an immediate relative or employee of a major political figure stationed in the US.......can't work on an A visa btw, just a warning so that you don't find yourself stuck in the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 duck_77


    I was about to mention this - not sure the A Visa will suit your needs given your original post OP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    duck_77 wrote: »
    I was about to mention this - not sure the A Visa will suit your needs given your original post OP

    I know i know, i wanted to stay in west hollywood but it's not going to be possible as the job is in SanFran, 5-6 hour commute ain't gonna happen haha. But i can still go on the off time :D

    As long as i like the job its plain sailing, just glad its west coast like i said i wanted at the start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Paul_Hacket


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    I know i know, i wanted to stay in west hollywood but it's not going to be possible as the job is in SanFran, 5-6 hour commute ain't gonna happen haha. But i can still go on the off time :D

    As long as i like the job its plain sailing, just glad its west coast like i said i wanted at the start.

    Since this is all happening in your imagination surely the commute can be as long as you like?

    PS - since apparently you are a close relative of a prominent diplomat stationed in the USA (the only way to get an A visa) then how come you had to post on boards.ie asking for info about getting into the USA in the first place? Surely your supposed relative would have been able to tell you all about this, no?

    You really don't have much going on in your life do you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Since this is all happening in your imagination surely the commute can be as long as you like?

    PS - since apparently you are a close relative of a prominent diplomat stationed in the USA (the only way to get an A visa) then how come you had to post on boards.ie asking for info about getting into the USA in the first place? Surely your supposed relative would have been able to tell you all about this, no?

    You really don't have much going on in your life do you?


    You look back at the posts and i already said i had people willing to get me over. I wanted to see what people have done to get an idea of how people got where they are as i had no clue, whats wrong with a little feedback, again if you look i hadn't a clue and this is a last minute thing. I said i need to look into it further, I've been given this handed to me on a plate and i'm taking it, Oh and as someone said above about congrats, It's not a family member.

    You sir need to get out and live a little and take a break from the web. Your the guy i hope i never meet, and hopefully i won't have to represent you in my job ;)


    Now good day to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Also, applicants travelling to the U.S. on official government business:

    •Officials of Foreign Governments, A-1 and A-2 visas
    •Accredited Foreign Government officials in transit, C-3 visa
    •International Organization, G-1, G-2, G-3, and G4 visas
    •NATO representatives officials and employees, N visas

    Are you going working in the government. How about helping me out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭rockonollie


    You realize that if it isn't a family member, you could be getting your connection in a lot of trouble.....if it isn't a family member, then you must be taking employment at a consulate office in the States.....and if your contact is just giving you a job because you said to want to live in the US...then he is risking his job by doing so.

    And as I previously stated, the A visa will only allow you to work for the Irish government in the US, and it will not lead to permanent residency, and you won't be able to find a job with a company in the US and then stay here.

    I'm not trying to be a downer, just making sure you know what you're getting yourself into.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Paul_Hacket


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    You look back at the posts and i already said i had people willing to get me over.

    Nope, you claimed above that you knew people working in BUSINESS in New York. Now you claim to be getting an A visa but are not an immediate relative of the person sponsoring you? And this person has managed to secure you a visa - which requires a consular interview - in barely two weeks. And since the only jobs such people can hire people to do are either domestic service or being a courier for them they are basically committing fraud in order to get you in to the USA, thus risking their entire careers.

    Sounds plausible.

    You are an unmitigated charlatan who ought to be banned for time wasting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    You realize that if it isn't a family member, you could be getting your connection in a lot of trouble.....if it isn't a family member, then you must be taking employment at a consulate office in the States.....and if your contact is just giving you a job because you said to want to live in the US...then he is risking his job by doing so.

    And as I previously stated, the A visa will only allow you to work for the Irish government in the US, and it will not lead to permanent residency, and you won't be able to find a job with a company in the US and then stay here.

    I'm not trying to be a downer, just making sure you know what you're getting yourself into.

    I have been given a job here in Ireland from a family member which makes me eligible for the A-1 visa, contacts were made for me to go to where i'm going to work for the Irish Consulate in SF, it's not what i want to do, it's not where i want to be.

    I won't be permanent i can't get another job. But if i like what i'm doing i get to stay for as long as the job is on offer. If it works out i can continue as is if not i come home.

    Again its not what i want and i'd love one day to be able to stay as a resident, but if this is the only way then i'm happy.

    I've been told everything by the embassy here in Dublin. I know what i'm getting into. It's rushed but it's a chance that has to be taken. Its an experience i want to experience. Fly out of Dublin Aug 27th.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 363 ✭✭Paul_Hacket


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    I have been given a job here in Ireland from a family member which makes me eligible for the A-1 visa, contacts were made for me to go to where i'm going to work for the Irish Consulate in SF, it's not what i want to do, it's not where i want to be.

    I won't be permanent i can't get another job. But if i like what i'm doing i get to stay for as long as the job is on offer. If it works out i can continue as is if not i come home.

    Again its not what i want and i'd love one day to be able to stay as a resident, but if this is the only way then i'm happy.

    I've been told everything by the embassy here in Dublin. I know what i'm getting into. It's rushed but it's a chance that has to be taken. Its an experience i want to experience. Fly out of Dublin Aug 27th.

    If what you say above is true you have just outed yourself publicly for illegally gaming the system. Employees of Irish government agencies such as our Consulate in San Francisco are not allowed to hire gob****es on the public purse as a "favor" to your family member - thus they will have broken Irish Law and could fully expect to be fired from their job if what you claim above is true.

    Further, you have almost certainly broken American Law in your supposed visa application since the kind of people that can be granted visas to consulates on A-3 visas are extremely limited - this visa program is not intented for charlatans like you and again by telling us exactly where you are supposedly going to be working and when you are flying out etc you have exposed yourself here.

    Not that I believe ANYTHING you have written above in any case since you have the grammar and diction of a sixteen year old and don't come across as the type anyone would be willing to risk their diplomatic career in order to get into the USA for a few months. And I know for a fact that these thing can NOT be arranged in a matter of weeks - a close friend worked for the embassy in Washington for years and often helped people out with such matters.

    Good luck indeed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    If what you say above is true you have just outed yourself publicly for illegally gaming the system. Employees of Irish government agencies such as our Consulate in San Francisco are not allowed to hire gob****es on the public purse as a "favor" to your family member - thus they will have broken Irish Law and could fully expect to be fired from their job if what you claim above is true.

    Further, you have almost certainly broken American Law in your supposed visa application since the kind of people that can be granted visas to consulates on A-3 visas are extremely limited - this visa program is not intented for charlatans like you and again by telling us exactly where you are supposedly going to be working and when you are flying out etc you have exposed yourself here.

    Not that I believe ANYTHING you have written above in any case since you have the grammar and diction of a sixteen year old and don't come across as the type anyone would be willing to risk their diplomatic career in order to get into the USA for a few months. And I know for a fact that these thing can NOT be arranged in a matter of weeks - a close friend worked for the embassy in Washington for years and often helped people out with such matters.

    Good luck indeed.

    Bitter man indeed, funny how you just don't get it, ITS DONE, but it's all good.

    You have friends in Washington, so its all good for you but anyone else is wrong and it cant be done. i can just tell you your full of shít myself. its easy isn't it. SEE.

    I think your the one acting like a 16 year old here. There's a big difference between a person in real life and an internet poster. So your 16 year old shíte you can drop.

    I'll look forward to you reporting me and all involved to the proper authorities. No point posting anymore as your on the ignore list so i won't see it. Also looking forward to when your on the net looking for help and get abused. Hope all works out for you.

    Drop in to SF sometime. I'll buy you a beer.

    Best Regards.

    Bitter Bitter Old Man. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Making it easy for the Boards.ie Moderators to rack up their banning quota.

    Let me help you with that.

    Post reported.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    MadsL wrote: »
    Let me help you with that.

    Post reported.

    Thats for After Hours only ;)

    Lock it up indeed so paul can get back to playing his World Of Warcraft


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    This thread is great. It's like a cross between Mission Impossible, Austin Powers - International Man of Mystery, and fairy tale story time on Jackanory.

    What's next? The OP has a "relation" who's a Jedi Knight, and he got his visa thru the subtle and cunning use of the Jedi Mind trick? Hope you get a purple light sabre OP. It will go down a treat in San Francisco. Best of luck to you. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    seachto7 wrote: »
    You'll never be able to get a driver's licence or health insurance.

    That's not true at all.

    With all of the Mexicans that have been filing over the borders (and stayed), many states are allowing them drivers licenses in order to purchase insurance on their vehicles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭rockonollie


    That's not true at all.

    With all of the Mexicans that have been filing over the borders (and stayed), many states are allowing them drivers licenses in order to purchase insurance on their vehicles.

    Some states.....most, some still require proof of status before issuing an ID


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    Thats for After Hours only ;)


    Yeah, you see how your lack of attention to detail gets you in these spots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Mystery solved. Would that be an A-nal visa? Business in SF you said, no?
    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    If i let an american Anally Haze me, can i get a Visa?????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭HurtLocker


    I always thought cronyism in the public service is/was illegal?

    I presume the Ombudsman (?) or Dept. of Foreign Affairs (http://www.consulateofirelandsanfrancisco.org/home/index.aspx?id=356390 would be interested in this family favour. Our tax should be spent on the best person for the job, not because of family connections. If the OP aint the most qualified for the job and was got through winks and nods it smells of corruption.

    Well at least on an A visa you cant get permanent residency/citizenship I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭silja


    *** thread closed. Do NOT re-open this thread *****


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