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Can I bring my non-eu father to Ireland for good?

  • 22-06-2013 2:24pm
    #1
    khurshah
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    Hi mates. I am resident in Ireland as irish spouse for last 4 years and going to be Irish citizen sooner or later. Can I bring my father to Ireland forever who is actually 70 years of age living abroad, he is on his own and need attention and care because of his old aging?


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  • #2
    Ponster
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    What is his nationality ?


  • #3
    khurshah
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    Ponster wrote: »
    What is his nationality ?

    pakistani


  • #4
    Pro Hoc Vice
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    khurshah wrote: »
    Hi mates. I am resident in Ireland as irish spouse for last 4 years and going to be Irish citizen sooner or later. Can I bring my father to Ireland forever who is actually 70 years of age living abroad, he is on his own and need attention and care because of his old aging?

    It will all depend on his particular circumstances, including his personal income etc., take the advice if a specialist immigration solicitor, this is a very difficult area of immigration law in ireland.


  • #5
    khurshah
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    infosys wrote: »
    It will all depend on his particular circumstances, including his personal income etc., take the advice if a specialist immigration solicitor, this is a very difficult area of immigration law in ireland.
    But he is retired and not working. He is surviving on some invested money in the bank there.


  • #6
    Ponster
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    Take a look at this link and this document.


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  • #7
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    khurshah wrote: »
    But he is retired and not working. He is surviving on some invested money in the bank there.

    I did assume he was retired at 70 and wishing to move to ireland. But the INIS will look at any income available to him, pensions, bank interest rental properties etc. if he can prove that he has enough income to support himself without support from you your partner or the Irish State then he will have a better chance if success.


  • #8
    khurshah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 ✭khurshah


    what category of visa he needs to apply?


  • #9
    Cushie Butterfield
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    khurshah wrote: »
    what category of visa he needs to apply?
    The best your father can hope for is a Stamp 3 visitor visa allowing him to stay for a maximum of 90 days. Irish immigration law regarding being joined by a family member only covers spouses/partners & dependent children, but not dependant parents. One option that you should look into is after you become a naturalised Irish citizen, relocating to UK, NI or another EU country & exercising your EU treaty rights to have him join you there as a family member, as EU legislation recognises parents (& in-laws) as family in immigration terms.


  • #10
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    Cushie Butterfield wrote: »
    The best your father can hope for is a Stamp 3 visitor visa allowing him to stay for a maximum of 90 days. Irish immigration law regarding being joined by a family member only covers spouses/partners & dependent children, but not dependant parents. One option that you should look into is after you become a naturalised Irish citizen, relocating to UK, NI or another EU country & exercising your EU treaty rights to have him join you there as a family member, as EU legislation recognises parents (& in-laws) as family in immigration terms.

    A parent maybe given a long term permission, once the can prove independent means, currently the figure put forward by Immigration is €25-30k a year. Also the Stamp 3 permission is not a visa permission is a residency permission. The relevant visa to apply for would be either a short stay vist visa or a long stay visa. It would usually be best to visit on short stay visas a number of times before applying for any long term permission.

    The EU solution can indeed work, but there must be dependency, the solution also only involves a 6-12 month move as under EU law when the Zirish citizen moves back to ireland, EUrules still apply.


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