A Brave New World Big Brother

zenno

I'd say it's only a matter of time before this is the norm around the world, and what a great way to really monitor people don't you think ?.

What do you think of this crazy stuff ?.

The Washington Times.

It hardly gets more Orwellian than this. New technology would allow cable companies to peer directly into television watchers’ homes and monitor viewing habits and reactions to product advertisements :eek:

Source: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/17/big-brother-alert-cameras-cable-box-monitor-tv-vie/

SEPT 23 1989

They are already in the Sky boxes

Antar Bolaeisk

They're calling it the xbox one aren't they?

Festy

RFID chip instantly springs to mind :eek:

Mr.Prodston

You have been evicted, please leave the television in my house. You have been evicted, please leave the television in my house. You have been evicted, please leave the television in my house.

Damm boy, I told you. I gave you fair warning.

*drops trousers and proceeds to do the helicopter*

zenno

I wonder if the new generation here would accept this

The Backwards Man

My granny used to put on her Sunday coat to watch the six o clock news. Maybe she wasn't so slow after all.

conorhal

Jesus ever-loving Christ!

They put a camera in every livingroom and it's 'market reasearch', but I put one camera in the ladies toilets I'm a pervert!

This is twisted stuff, what kind of sociopathic mind comes up with this? More to the point, who would accept it?

ScumLord

The thing about all these big brother things is that the general public is adding a sinister element to the equation that just isn't there in real life.

It's computers doing the monitoring not people. People can't monitor thousands or millions of people for every reaction. It's going to be a mindless machine looking for triggers and reacting with set procedures. The computer doesn't give a damn who you are or what you watch and the media companies can hardly use what you watch against you seeing as they're the people providing you with the content.

Regardless of what the machine finds the media companies are going to want to force their commercialistic propaganda programing at you so that you follow the right trends and buy the right products. Any observing is to fine tune that system not get to know you better.

IM0

BBC FTW! **** you commercials

pabloh999

ScumLord wrote: »

The thing about all these big brother things is that the general public is adding a sinister element to the equation that just isn't there in real life.

It's computers doing the monitoring not people. People can't monitor thousands or millions of people for every reaction. It's going to be a mindless machine looking for triggers and reacting with set procedures. The computer doesn't give a damn who you are or what you watch and the media companies can hardly use what you watch against you seeing as they're the people providing you with the content.

Regardless of what the machine finds the media companies are going to want to force their commercialistic propaganda programing at you so that you follow the right trends and buy the right products. Any observing is to fine tune that system not get to know you better.

The technology includes cameras and microphones that are installed on DVRs or
cable boxes and analyzes viewers’ responses, behaviors and statements to
various ads — and then provides advertisements that are targeted to the
particular household.


Specifically, the technology can monitor sleeping, eating, exercising,
reading and more, AdWeek reported

You cant be defending this?
It is certain to be abused, all your personal home moments caught on video with audio aswell :eek:
Its beyond mental.

Unless its an April 1st(June 17) joke

conorhal

ScumLord wrote: »

The thing about all these big brother things is that the general public is adding a sinister element to the equation that just isn't there in real life.

It's computers doing the monitoring not people. People can't monitor thousands or millions of people for every reaction. It's going to be a mindless machine looking for triggers and reacting with set procedures. The computer doesn't give a damn who you are or what you watch and the media companies can hardly use what you watch against you seeing as they're the people providing you with the content.

Regardless of what the machine finds the media companies are going to want to force their commercialistic propaganda programing at you so that you follow the right trends and buy the right products. Any observing is to fine tune that system not get to know you better.

Until PRISM get their hands on it, the blithe assumption that such 'market research is 'benign' has been pretty comprehensively blown out of the water lately. As for a bit of 'observing to fine tune the system', people are people, they can and will inevitabily abuse such a system.
How about, no company has the right to measure the number of times I scratch my balls while slumped on the couch watching the footie?
I'll never understand how people passively accept the level of intrusive and constant encroachment into every aspect of their lives that corporations are conducting.

zenno

pabloh999 wrote: »

You cant be defending this?
It is certain to be abused, all your personal home moments caught on video with audio aswell :eek:
Its beyond mental.

Unless its an April 1st(June 17) joke

That's what I thought as well but it's verified :eek: crazy indeed.

I can just imagine the adverts sent for the man fapping off to the porn channel

af_thefragile

This pic explains it all...

http://imgur.com/gallery/bkJI3

Sergeant

Put a piece of masking tape over the camera.

af_thefragile

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

They're calling it the xbox one aren't they?

http://www.castleawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Hal-One-copy.jpg

zenno

Sergeant wrote: »

Put a piece of masking tape over the camera.

That's good but unless you are good at electronics and know how to take the cable-box apart to disconnect the microphone then they can still hear you fapping off to the porn channel or whatever else people are doing and groaning at.

pabloh999

Sergeant wrote: »

Put a piece of masking tape over the camera.

Or if you found a microphone and camera in your cable box, rip out the box and fu*k it through the cable companies window

ScumLord

pabloh999 wrote: »

You cant be defending this?
It is certain to be abused, all your personal home moments caught on video with audio aswell :eek:
Its beyond mental.

Unless its an April 1st(June 17) joke

That would be their service, if you don't like it use a different service. I got rid of my TV so this isn't an issue for me. I drew the line a long time ago, I already think people are being taken advantage of with the likes of Sky so it wouldn't surprise me if people accept this intrusion so they can continue to pay a premium to watch twice as many ads.

conorhal wrote: »

How about, no company has the right to measure the number of times I scratch my balls while slumped on the couch watching the footie?

Why do you think anyone would want to know that? Maybe if they can suggest some topical cream it would be of benefit to you.

buried

Garunteed there will be a 'we are watching you through your tv - licence fee' to go with it too

zenno

pabloh999 wrote: »

Or if you found a microphone and camera in your cable box, rip out the box and fu*k it through the cable companies window

I'd say if they done this to cable-boxes, the camera and microphone would be embedded deep under the mobo and made difficult to get to using odd-ball screws that no-one has the special screw-driver to be able to remove them without damaging the system.

pabloh999

ScumLord wrote: »

That would be their service, if you don't like it use a different service. I got rid of my TV so this isn't an issue for me. I drew the line a long time ago, I already think people are being taken advantage of with the likes of Sky so it wouldn't surprise me if people accept this intrusion so they can continue to pay a premium to watch twice as many ads.

Why do you think anyone would want to know that? Maybe if they can suggest some topical cream it would be of benefit to you.

I see you are a mod on "zombie survival" ?
Sh*t, you might be one of them!

dilallio

Just point the camera at itself.
This will cause the monitoring system to go into an irreversible loop, causing it to implode.

Antar Bolaeisk

ScumLord wrote: »

Regardless of what the machine finds the media companies are going to want to force their commercialistic propaganda programing at you so that you follow the right trends and buy the right products. Any observing is to fine tune that system not get to know you better.

That's just what they want you to believe...

zenno

I can see a time when these kinds of cameras are inserted into a pixel space on all tv's and computer monitors of which cannot be removed without damaging the monitor. But there will always be a hack to stop or block it i'm sure.

ScumLord

zenno wrote: »

I can see a time when these kinds of cameras are inserted into a pixel space on all tv's and computer monitors of which cannot be removed without damaging the monitor. But there will always be a hack to stop or block it i'm sure.

Ya, a bit of sellotape.

zenno

ScumLord wrote: »

Ya, a bit of sellotape.

That would mess up the shows you would be watching, having to look at a movie or a tv show with a lump of sellotape on the monitor. also how would you know which front side of the tv or monitor the camera was if it was the size of a pixel ? embedded as a pixel.

Capt'n Midnight

If you have a land line telephone then it's possible that they've been listening in to you all the time.

Silent answer on mobile phone also makes a good listening device.

There have been several vulnerabilities in Flash alone that allow them to use your computers mic and webcam.


Also
Help identify individuals in your area with the Facewatch ID App http://facewatch.co.uk/cms/pages/apps

zenno

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

If you have a land line telephone then it's possible that they've been listening in to you all the time.

Silent answer on mobile phone also makes a good listening device.

There have been several vulnerabilities in Flash alone that allow them to use your computers mic and webcam.


Also
Help identify individuals in your area with the Facewatch ID App http://facewatch.co.uk/cms/pages/apps

Yeah, i remember that one alright, i had a problem with that before.

Jonny7

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

If you have a land line telephone then it's possible that they've been listening in to you all the time.

Silent answer on mobile phone also makes a good listening device.

There have been several vulnerabilities in Flash alone that allow them to use your computers mic and webcam.


Also
Help identify individuals in your area with the Facewatch ID App http://facewatch.co.uk/cms/pages/apps

Sorry but who's listening?

Capt'n Midnight

ScumLord wrote: »

Ya, a bit of sellotape.

Perhaps opaque tape would work better ?


Seriously some black tapes are transparent to infra-red

Jester252

I would watch TV naked and laugh at the poor guy that had to watch me.

shedweller

pabloh999 wrote: »

Or if you found a microphone and camera in your cable box, rip out the box and fu*k it through the cable companies window

Sellotape a small headphone earpiece to the mic and plug it into a cheap portable radio tuned to a radio station with loads of ads. Or better still, loop the tv sound back into itself through the earpiece. And tape over the camera. Job done.
I dont care if people think im being too paranoid. They can go and..... with their snooping, machine or not.

zenno

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Perhaps opaque tape would work better ?


Seriously some black tapes are transparent to infra-red

Yes, but still, how would you know the location of the camera (the size of a pixel) to put the sellotape over ?. Of all the millions of pixels on the monitor, how would a person find the right pixel that is the camera ?. Especially on a 40/50 inch tv or pc monitor.

NegativeCreep

Can you not just put the box in a cabinet or get one of those telly stands with a press underneath to house the telly box?