Essential effects for electric guitar.

topcatcbr

I am moving from a modeling amp to a tube amp and I am getting a few effects pedals to go along. I am getting the Joyo Ones from Thomann.

What do you think are the most used and maybe listed 1-9 or similar. Eg my thoughts are

1 distortion/overdrive-I'm thinking ultimate drive here

2 chorus.

3 delay

4 Wah

5 faze

6 flange

This is my list in order of what I use most at 1 to least 5&6.

What are your thoughts.

Celly Smunt

Reverb and delay,and a touch of overdrive.Not a big fan of distortion or fuzz myself.

Blackhorse Slim

I would definitely go for 2 overdrive pedals, a sweet lo-gain and a higher gain - gives you a lot more variation very quickly.

Also surprised you don't have a compressor on your list, not essential maybe but very useful.

Not a big fan of chorus/flanger/phaser sounds myself, but a little tremolo in nice, occasionally. Same with the wah, you need to have one but I would use it sparingly!

topcatcbr

Blackhorse Slim wrote: »

I would definitely go for 2 overdrive pedals, a sweet lo-gain and a higher gain - gives you a lot more variation very quickly.

I'd like some examples of each please. Bearing in mind I'm buying Joyo.

Forgot the compressor. I think a chorus can be useful.

I didn't put reverb on list as many amps have a decent one built in. I'm not a huge fan of flange or faze myself but I'm kinda looking for a set up to play widest range. Only getting into electric since Xmas. (Playing acoustic a while now) I bought a modeling amp in feb thinking it would give a good range of sounds but I don't like it. It's very artificial sounding. And the better I get the harder it is to tolerate.

Thanks for response.

KeithTS

For me the essentials are:

Tuner
Noise Suppressor - If getting one make sure it's a decent one or you'll end up with no sustain and it'll kill your tone
Compressor
Signal booster - Artec have a couple of decent ones for cheap I think
OD
Delay

I would recommend getting a pedal one at a time so you can get to know how it sounds and feels, learn how to use it before going off and buying another. If you get 5 or 6 new pedals you'll instantly want to hook them all up and start playing, which is fine, you might make some great sounds but you won't understand your signal chain as much, how each affects tone, optimum settings etc.
It's hard to know what to buy when starting from scratch, my advice would be to start small and make purchases based on what you feel your sound is missing.

**Vai**

If you wanted something a bit easier and possibly cheaper you could just go for a multi effects board. That would have everything you listed in one.

Ravelleman

Reverb and tremolo are essential for me.

I also have an OD, booster, fuzz and delay but I could live without them.

I'm only a fan of chorus in certain situations to be honest.

topcatcbr

Ravelleman wrote: »

Reverb and tremolo are essential for me.

I also have an OD, booster, fuzz and delay but I could live without them.

I'm only a fan of chorus in certain situations to be honest.

I haven't bought Amp yet. It has reverb built in and I'll see how it sounds before I buy another. I'm going to order some pedals at same time as amp to get included in free postage. The joyo are so cheep and get great reviews it makes sense as they are nearly same price as postage.

-=al=-

Reverb is pretty big but most amps do have them... I hate wasting a spot for verb

Overdrives are essential 1 low and medium for me

Delay

Compressor

Wah

I also like an EQ for adding some mids for solos and a boost.. add some modulation type/fun effects after them and it's all good

wild turkey

The ultimate drive is a good pedal try pushing it with a low gain od

fuzzbrew

IF you told us what type of music you are into playing we might really be able to help you a bit more.....

topcatcbr

fuzzbrew wrote: »

IF you told us what type of music you are into playing we might really be able to help you a bit more.....

I like a lot of types. Mostly old school rock. Ac/dc Thin Lizzy. But I also like Coldplay oasis, queens of Stone Age, placebo, arctic monkeys. U2. Infact most radio friendly rock.

fuzzbrew

topcatcbr wrote: »

I like a lot of types. Mostly old school rock. Ac/dc Thin Lizzy. But I also like Coldplay oasis, queens of Stone Age, placebo, arctic monkeys. U2. Infact most radio friendly rock.

Right well if it was me i would have a versatile drive pedal that can go from light to medium-high gain,you won't need more than 1 at the moment as you are just getting into electric playing. The Joyo ultimate drive would be a good option, it's based on an OCD pedal and is meant to be good bang for the buck. It Will get you close to that 70s rock sound. I would also get a delay pedal, good effect to start with as it's fairly easy to understand what they do and how to use one and can be great fun just messing about with the controls, trying different delay times and stuff. I would suggest fuzz, but that's just me as i love fuzz pedals. They might not be for you but you will need a fuzz to play queens & later arctic monkeys!. . I wouldn't go diving into modulation effects yet as it can be fairly grey area. Chorus, phase, flange can all be similar in ways. I'd do more research and find out what you like first before committing to buying one, i personally would go for a vibe effect anyway. As far as reverb goes, i would always go for the amp reverb route before a pedal. I don't imagine you will need a compressor for now. Maybe look into a tuner pedal, they are handy when jamming and on stage and double as a mute for your guitar! Tremolo is another one like delay, simple to understand and great fun. Hope this helps.

fuzzbrew

fuzzbrew wrote: »

Right well if it was me i would have a versatile drive pedal that can go from light to medium-high gain,you won't need more than 1 at the moment as you are just getting into electric playing. The Joyo ultimate drive would be a good option, it's based on an OCD pedal and is meant to be good bang for the buck. It Will get you close to that 70s rock sound. I would also get a delay pedal, good effect to start with as it's fairly easy to understand what they do and how to use one and can be great fun just messing about with the controls, trying different delay times and stuff. I would suggest fuzz, but that's just me as i love fuzz pedals. They might not be for you but you will need a fuzz to play queens & later arctic monkeys!. . I wouldn't go diving into modulation effects yet as it can be fairly grey area. Chorus, phase, flange can all be similar in ways. I'd do more research and find out what you like first before committing to buying one, i personally would go for a vibe effect anyway. As far as reverb goes, i would always go for the amp reverb route before a pedal. I don't imagine you will need a compressor for now. Maybe look into a tuner pedal, they are handy when jamming and on stage and double as a mute for your guitar! Tremolo is another one like delay, simple to understand and great fun. Hope this helps.

oh sorry by they way, a good option for a delay would be an electro harmonix memory toy or a mooer ana delay or joyo analog delay, all decent quality sound & inexpensive. you don't want to break the bank on your first pedal and get a strymon or a vintage memory man to find out it's not for you.

topcatcbr

fuzzbrew wrote: »

oh sorry by they way, a good option for a delay would be an electro harmonix memory toy or a mooer ana delay or joyo analog delay, all decent quality sound & inexpensive. you don't want to break the bank on your first pedal and get a strymon or a vintage memory man to find out it's not for you.

Thanks.

I believe the joyo digital delay gets better reviews than the analogue version.

topcatcbr

fuzzbrew wrote: »

Right well if it was me i would have a versatile drive pedal that can go from light to medium-high gain,you won't need more than 1 at the moment as you are just getting into electric playing. The Joyo ultimate drive would be a good option, it's based on an OCD pedal and is meant to be good bang for the buck. It Will get you close to that 70s rock sound. I would also get a delay pedal, good effect to start with as it's fairly easy to understand what they do and how to use one and can be great fun just messing about with the controls, trying different delay times and stuff. I would suggest fuzz, but that's just me as i love fuzz pedals. They might not be for you but you will need a fuzz to play queens & later arctic monkeys!. . I wouldn't go diving into modulation effects yet as it can be fairly grey area. Chorus, phase, flange can all be similar in ways. I'd do more research and find out what you like first before committing to buying one, i personally would go for a vibe effect anyway. As far as reverb goes, i would always go for the amp reverb route before a pedal. I don't imagine you will need a compressor for now. Maybe look into a tuner pedal, they are handy when jamming and on stage and double as a mute for your guitar! Tremolo is another one like delay, simple to understand and great fun. Hope this helps.

So far I'm leaning towards

1 joyo ultimate drive
2 joyo digi delay
3 joyo chorus
4 joyo compressor
5 Haley Benton power plant jr
And patch cables.
€30 each pedal

Ravelleman

-=al=- wrote: »

Reverb is pretty big but most amps do have them... I hate wasting a spot for verb

Depends what amp you buy. Most on-board reverbs won't have the depth of a dedicated pedal, unless you get something like a Fender Twin or Deluxe Reverb.

wild turkey

If you look to some of the chinese sellers youll get a bundle deal on joyo pedals & will work out a lot cheaper

WTF accessories seem to have gone out of business but in sure theres others

fuzzbrew

topcatcbr wrote: »

So far I'm leaning towards

1 joyo ultimate drive
2 joyo digi delay
3 joyo chorus
4 joyo compressor
5 Haley Benton power plant jr
And patch cables.
€30 each pedal

with what you have named here, you should do fine. They wouldn't be my first choice but you will get a good range of decent enough sounds from that. Ultimate drive looks great actually. I'd probably go for an analog delay.

topcatcbr

fuzzbrew wrote: »

with what you have named here, you should do fine. They wouldn't be my first choice but you will get a good range of decent enough sounds from that. Ultimate drive looks great actually. I'd probably go for an analog delay.

http://musical-instruments.top5.com/top-5-most-essential-guitar-effects/

I'm pretty much going along these lines adding a delay. I already have a vox Wah and digitech solo looper.

Not hugely impressed with Wah.

I'm thinking any reverb outside what's built into amp can be enhanced through a low setting on delay.

fuzzbrew

topcatcbr wrote: »

http://musical-instruments.top5.com/top-5-most-essential-guitar-effects/

I'm pretty much going along these lines adding a delay. I already have a vox Wah and digitech solo looper.

Not hugely impressed with Wah.

I'm thinking any reverb outside what's built into amp can be enhanced through a low setting on delay.

You can usually pick up a used cry baby for not a bad price on adverts.ie, if you're not happy with your wah

johnROSS

Hi, I did basically the same thing as you a few months back, moved from a modeling amp to different amp + pedals. I got three Joyos from Thomann and they are pretty good, but I'd go with a slightly better chorus if I were you, the Joyo one is good but it's not very versatile. I also got the phaser, which is pretty good for funky stuff, but not much else, and the tremolo which is class.

topcatcbr

johnROSS wrote: »

Hi, I did basically the same thing as you a few months back, moved from a modeling amp to different amp + pedals. I got three Joyos from Thomann and they are pretty good, but I'd go with a slightly better chorus if I were you, the Joyo one is good but it's not very versatile. I also got the phaser, which is pretty good for funky stuff, but not much else, and the tremolo which is class.

Thanks. I might drop that from list. It's one I could live without for a while.

What amp did you get.

topcatcbr

fuzzbrew wrote: »

You can usually pick up a used cry baby for not a bad price on adverts.ie, if you're not happy with your wah

I'll see how it works in new setup before I change it.

topcatcbr

About to pull trigger on this.

I'm not sure on buying a returned bugera v22 considering reputation for faults but Thomann have good return policy.

Is it worth it for €20.

wild turkey

topcatcbr wrote: »

About to pull trigger on this.

I'm not sure on buying a returned bugera v22 considering reputation for faults but Thomann have good return policy.

Is it worth it for €20.

For the sake of €20 get the new one
Thats a lot of gear for the money

topcatcbr

wild turkey wrote: »

For the sake of €20 get the new

I'm thinking the same

wild turkey wrote: »

Thats a lot of gear for the money

That's the idea .

Not much more than a decent muli effects pedal when you think about it.

johnROSS

Hi, I got a peavey bandit 112. I wanted something nice and simple.

topcatcbr

wild turkey wrote: »

For the sake of €20 get the new one
Thats a lot of gear for the money

Yea. Decided its not worth the possible hassle for €20

wild turkey

Let us know how you get on with it / like it

rcaz

Tuner tuner tuner!

And 'essential', for me, I couldn't get on without two delays, two drives and a pitch shifter.

Gaspode

Tuner, Overdrive, Chorus/Flanger, Delay.

il gatto

Buy a good tuner. Took me years to get around to it and I should've made it the first pedal I bought nearly 20 years ago.
Otherwise, which effects did you use alot on the modelling amp? Buy pedals to do the same. If you never used the flanger, don't buy the pedal.
I agree with whoever said above that buying pedals one at a time is a better idea. Get to know each one individually and then see how each addition fits into your sound.
I bought the Joyo AC Tone. Very nice just as an overdrive. The speaker sim is not an issue. I also got the digital delay. I like analogue generally but apparently the Joyo analogue sounds like an average analogue pedal whereas the Digital Delay sounds like a really good analogue delay. A very good buy.

topcatcbr

il gatto wrote: »

Buy a good tuner. Took me years to get around to it and I should've made it the first pedal I bought nearly 20 years ago.
Otherwise, which effects did you use alot on the modelling amp? Buy pedals to do the same. If you never used the flanger, don't buy the pedal.
I agree with whoever said above that buying pedals one at a time is a better idea. Get to know each one individually and then see how each addition fits into your sound.
I bought the Joyo AC Tone. Very nice just as an overdrive. The speaker sim is not an issue. I also got the digital delay. I like analogue generally but apparently the Joyo analogue sounds like an average analogue pedal whereas the Digital Delay sounds like a really good analogue delay. A very good buy.

I got the joyo digi delay and compressor. I held off on an overdrive as the amp has gain channel but I will buy one soon along with a chorus and maybe a reverb. I already had a vox Wah and a digitech solo looper.

il gatto

topcatcbr wrote: »

I got the joyo digi delay and compressor. I held off on an overdrive as the amp has gain channel but I will buy one soon along with a chorus and maybe a reverb. I already had a vox Wah and a digitech solo looper.

Chorus is nice but show restraint with it. Nothing worse than someone using it all the time.
Overdrives are a whole world of their own. There is so many types which work in different ways and make a massive difference to your tone. Research very carefully. Pick a good one (not necessarily expensive). The Ultimate Drive is well thought of and versatile. Have a Digitech Bad Monkey. Cost 30 odd euro. Fantastic pedal for the money. Pretty much a Tubescreamer with added bass control.

BAKER95

it depends on the person but at the moment all i use is a big muff fuzz , usually dont use much else though apart from a boss ds2 ocasionally :cool:

and thats through a valve amp with a standard light breakup crunch with the bridge pickup of a strat

Frankenstein!

I've never really used any effects in my ten years of playing, but my curiosity has risen due to this thread!

il gatto

Frankenstein! wrote: »

I've never really used any effects in my ten years of playing, but my curiosity has risen due to this thread!

I have three overdrives, two distortions, a delay, a wah-wah and a few other bits and bobs. I usually plug straight into the amp and play. They're great to play around with and make it easy varying your tone. That said, if like me, you mainly play rock (Zep, Guns, Stones, Petty etc.) you rarely "need" them. And even then, I only drag out the pedalboard and use one most of the time.
Buy a few, some can really make a song "sing", but nothing beats Guitar->Amp most of the time (for me anyway).