Should RTE crowd source some of its programmes?

experiMental

I don't watch TV, so apologies for any lack of insight.

So am I right in saying that the government funds RTE, irrespective of the amount of views that the station itself gets? Is that the "business model" of the TV station in question? What if the viewers will get fed up of RTE, scrap TV's and stop paying their license fees?

Is it also true that a small amount of people inside the studios themselves decide what a huge number of TV viewers should watch?

A lot of people want to entertain and inform others and produce excellent material that gets overlooked. It gets massive amount of views on the internet. A question is begging to be answered: should RTE arrange time slots for crowd-sourced or independent TV programmes and finance such a scheme?

Nemeses

This was a bad idea to ask in AH...

Prepare for trouble... and make it double.

Valetta

No.

I like the Late Late Show.

ScumLord

They have done in the past, it's where Hardy Bucks came from.

IM0

are you one of those crusties that only had RTE or something

people dont pay the licence for RTE, they pay it for using the network that broadcasts the other stations in to their house!

hardCopy

I think RTE should be separated from the Licence Fee revenues.

Put the money into a central pot and let RTE, TV3, TG4 and any independents tender for the funding.

Grants could be broken up into packages for regional programming, non-mainstream sports and other non-profitable programming.

Peregrine

hardCopy wrote: »

I think RTE should be separated from the Licence Fee revenues.

Put the money into a central pot and let RTE, TV3, TG4 and any independents tender for the funding.

Grants could be broken up into packages for regional programming, non-mainstream sports and other non-profitable programming.

TG4 does get some of the TV License fee, it get's around €8m a year.

TV3 is ITV in a shiny Irish wrapper. It's profits go to ITV in the UK where as RTÉ is publicly owned by the state and it's profits go to the state. Why should TV3 get the states funding?

VinLieger

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

RTÉ is publicly owned by the state and it's profits go to the state

LOL .... RTE profits

Grayson

hardCopy wrote: »

I think RTE should be separated from the Licence Fee revenues.

Put the money into a central pot and let RTE, TV3, TG4 and any independents tender for the funding.

Grants could be broken up into packages for regional programming, non-mainstream sports and other non-profitable programming.

Is there enough money for that?

Peregrine

VinLieger wrote: »

LOL .... RTE profits

It made €26.5m in profit in 2007 and like €18m the year before. Yes it made profits, obviously not anymore but the state was making money from it and will again when it returns to profit.

VinLieger

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

It made €26.5m in profit in 2007 and like €18m the year before. Yes it made profits, obviously not anymore but the state was making money from it and will again when it returns to profit.

26.5m profit doesnt count as real profit in my book if the funding they recieved from the license fee was more, currently searching for licnese fee totals to see how much RTE receive or it brings in

Peregrine

VinLieger wrote: »

26.5m profit doesnt count as real profit in my book if the funding they recieved from the license fee was more, currently searching for licnese fee totals to see how much RTE receive or it brings in

Obviously it needs funding

Or else they could just run ads every 10 mins during movies like Channel 4

VinLieger

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

Obviously it needs funding

Or else they could just run ads every 10 mins during movies like Channel 4

Other stations manage to operate without the license fee, calling 26.5m ad revenue profit is a joke as it doesnt equal whatever subsidy they recieve from the fee. Your argument is that the license fee is justified cus it means they run ads during movies every 25-30 minutes instead of every 15?

experiMental

ScumLord wrote: »

They have done in the past, it's where Hardy Bucks came from.

Well why are they not doing more of this? For some people, the only reason to tuning into RTE2 was to watch Hardy Bucks.

hardCopy

grayson wrote:

Is there enough money for that?

I wouldn't spend any more than we currently do, any money diverted to other producers would need to be cut from RTE's current Licence Fee revenue.

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

Obviously it needs funding

Or else they could just run ads every 10 mins during movies like Channel 4

RTE already run ads during movies, except on Christmas Day.

Public Service broadcasting does need funding, I just don't think RTE should have a monopoly on it. I don't think broadcasting is something that the state should be overly involved with ITV or anybody else getting a share of the funding, as long as the quality and subject matter of the programming meets the standards set out in any tender for funding.

ScumLord

experiMental wrote: »

Well why are they not doing more of this? For some people, the only reason to tuning into RTE2 was to watch Hardy Bucks.

Hardy Bucks working seems to have just annoyed RTE.

I don't really know or care what RTE do anymore, the only thing I've watched on it (the website) in the past five years is a few episodes of republic of tele.

**Vai**

I know its still brutal but at least having shows like Republic of Telly and Hardy Bucks, as well as the Savage Eye, is a large step up from when Upwardly Mobile was the only RTE commissioned "comedy".

swimming in a sea

I'd love to know how much RTE spend on those big american shows just to make a point of having them on a week before bbc\itv.

ScumLord

**Vai** wrote: »

I know its still brutal but at least having shows like Republic of Telly and Hardy Bucks, as well as the Savage Eye, is a large step up from when Upwardly Mobile was the only RTE commissioned "comedy".

I liked all those shows, while they didn't have the spit and polish of foreign shows, the stories where relevant to me. I would have thought the shows were fairly successful considering they got next to no money, at least it looked like they spent feck all.

**Vai**

ScumLord wrote: »

I liked all those shows, while they didn't have the spit and polish of foreign shows, the stories where relevant to me. I would have thought the shows were fairly successful considering they got next to no money, at least it looked like they spent feck all.

Sorry, I think I worded that arseways. I like all those shows too (except Upwardly Mobile), the brutal bit was in relation to most other RTE programs.

Tombo2001

seperate question.....

Is there a website available that shows Crowdsourcing projects in Ireland at a moment in time....

I saw a notice in a Spar down in West Cork for an effort to create a food co-op.....something that I would support. But where do you find this stuff if you dont see the notice in Spar?

Sky King

RTE needs much more of the following

Reality shows about people losing weight
Reality shows about dysfunctional families
Reality shows about people doing up houses
Reality shows about people doing business tasks
Reality shows about people managing sports teams
Sh!t comedy

mikom

Should RTE water board some of its programmes?
Yes.

ScumLord

**Vai** wrote: »

Sorry, I think I worded that arseways. I like all those shows too (except Upwardly Mobile), the brutal bit was in relation to most other RTE programs.

I don't mind the bad shows as such. RTE as a state broadcaster should be obliged to produce shows for niche markets as a public service. Of course RTE don't do that, they have their Catholic/GAA head viewer that they care about and the rest of us can go and swivel. I don't mind them making shows for that market but only making shows for that market means I won't be watching RTE.

**Vai**

Sky King wrote: »

RTE needs much more of the following

Reality shows about people losing weight
Reality shows about dysfunctional families
Reality shows about people doing up houses
Reality shows about people doing business tasks
Reality shows about people managing sports teams
Sh!t comedy

Also, theres a whole 'traveller tv shows' market that TV3 has wrapped up.

That's a good dollar.

Stereomaniac

I must say, I don't really watch television that much, so when I do, these programmes about travellers are quite entertaining for me to see. To each his own, however. I don't mind.

shruikan2553

A country should have a state broadcaster but RTE has far more than that, 2 TV channels, enough radio for half of europe and all that orchestra and arts stuff.

Capt'n Midnight

shruikan2553 wrote: »

A country should have a state broadcaster but RTE has far more than that, 2 TV channels, enough radio for half of europe and all that orchestra and arts stuff.

One of those channels was setup to show imports.

How do they pick the Screen Shorts ?

experiMental

Stereomaniac wrote: »

I must say, I don't really watch television that much, so when I do, these programmes about travellers are quite entertaining for me to see. To each his own, however. I don't mind.

Showing programmes about people that are either marginalised or not very successful seems to be a bit wrong, especially in a recession. RTE should be showing things about making and achieving success a bit more often.

On another note, ITV has expressed interest in a Dublin theatrical group: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1304629.ece

There's some crowdsourcing going on in TV already.

wazky

mikom wrote: »

Should RTE water board some of its programmes?
Yes.

Id rather see some of the "big" names (O'Callaghan, Tubby etc) waterboared in fairness.

JohnMarston

Nimrod 7 wrote: »

Obviously it needs funding

Or else they could just run ads every 10 mins during movies like Channel 4

I'm ok with that

Meanwhile i'll watch my tv online