Will I get Dole in Summer?

VivaMessi

Hi guys new to boards and wondering if you could help me. I've been offered a new job in a very good workplace but will only be 9 months a year with June, July and August off and is a daily rate so I won't get paid for those months. It is the same for everyone with this company. Would I be entitled to the dole during these three months in the summer next year? Any help would be appreciated. I will be starting last week of August.

Its kind off a dream job for me but I was just wondering will I get it as the wages are much more than my previous job for 9 months.

VivaMessi

Hi Mods, just seen the social welfare section, could ye move this?

Thanks

RealistSpy

If it's unpaid I believe if you are currently getting jobseekers allowance you will need to ask for their permission. I do believe they might give you €50 top up on your payment if accepted.

VivaMessi

RealistSpy wrote: »

If it's unpaid I believe if you are currently getting jobseekers allowance you will need to ask for their permission. I do believe they might give you €50 top up on your payment if accepted.

The job is paid and permanent but don't get paid June, July, August. Its the same with every employee with the company. Its a programming job so money is good

RealistSpy

Personally I believe you should be paid for any hours you work especially with computer software development. I just graduated myself from the same discipline but I am sure everyone feels different about your situation. I just don't think you can gauge an employee's full performance if they're working for free.

In regards to your question, since it's a permanent position I doubt your jsa will be paid but it would be best you call the sw office.

VivaMessi

RealistSpy wrote: »

Personally I believe you should be paid for any hours you work especially with computer software development. I just graduated myself from the same discipline but I am sure everyone feels different about your situation. I just don't think you can gauge an employee's full performance if they're working for free.

In regards to your question, since it's a permanent position I doubt your jsa will be paid but it would be best you call the sw office.

I'ts a permanent position and will be paid for nine months. I will not be working during the summer and then back working in September. The money is nearly double than what I'm getting in my current role. Its 40k for the nine months, three months off, and then back working in September.

I am wondering can I get the dole for those three months where I won't be paid.

jgh_

A seasonal programming job? Interesting...

pow wow

If it's a permanent position then you wouldn't actively be seeking work in the 3 months would you? And there'd be no P45 etc?

superb choice of username

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/reference/worksheets/worksheet_jobseekers_allowance_and_income_from_work.html I think you can calculate it from this for your personal circumstances. I can't see though that you'd be below the limit on 40k?

the_syco

VivaMessi wrote: »

I'ts a permanent position and will be paid for nine months.

Nine months? Sounds almost like they're letting people go before the 12 month mark. How long has the company been in existence?

Mrs OBumble

pow wow wrote: »

If it's a permanent position then you wouldn't actively be seeking work in the 3 months would you? And there'd be no P45 etc?

Of course you would be job-seeking for those three months. And of course you would only go back to the job if you hadn't found another job during that time. And if you're wise, you would keep some evidence of your job-seeking, just in case Welfare asked for it.

But a more interesting question is ... will you really be an employee, or a self-employed contractor? The phrase "daily-rate" in the OP's first message, plus the fact that it's a significant pay increase, makes me think that you might not be an employee at all.

If you're really an employee, and do get issued wit the right paperwork - eitehr a P45 or whatever it is for a short-term layoff, then i believe you would be eligible for Job Seeker's Benefit (depending on your overall stamps in the relevant year, of course). Your situation would be very similar to that faced by school-secretaries and the like.

However if you're self-employed, then you will not be eligible for Job Seeker's Benefit, and may not be eligible for Job Seeker's Allowance if you have savings.

That said, I'm moving this thread to State Benefits, where they'll know more about how self-employed people who temporarily lose their income source are treated.

mp22

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/unemployed_people/self_employed_and_unemployment.html

and here http://www.selfemployedsupports.ie/

wmpdd3

I know that school secretary gets paid has during the summer and gets a letter to say they are not employed during the summer.but they earn less than you would.

VivaMessi

Its a college if it makes any difference. Its programming/networking. Its day rate contract but permanent

eastbono

VivaMessi wrote: »

Its a college if it makes any difference. Its programming/networking. Its day rate contract but permanent

You will be able to apply for jobseekers benefit or allowance whichever is pertinent to you. You will have to get a form up2c completed by your employer just to show the dates you finish and if you receive holiday pay. Also if you are not paid during Easter or Christmas break you can also apply for and receive jobseekers.

Gumbi

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Of course you would be job-seeking for those three months. And of course you would only go back to the job if you hadn't found another job during that time. And if you're wise, you would keep some evidence of your job-seeking, just in case Welfare asked for it.

But a more interesting question is ... will you really be an employee, or a self-employed contractor? The phrase "daily-rate" in the OP's first message, plus the fact that it's a significant pay increase, makes me think that you might not be an employee at all.

If you're really an employee, and do get issued wit the right paperwork - eitehr a P45 or whatever it is for a short-term layoff, then i believe you would be eligible for Job Seeker's Benefit (depending on your overall stamps in the relevant year, of course). Your situation would be very similar to that faced by school-secretaries and the like.

However if you're self-employed, then you will not be eligible for Job Seeker's Benefit, and may not be eligible for Job Seeker's Allowance if you have savings.

That said, I'm moving this thread to State Benefits, where they'll know more about how self-employed people who temporarily lose their income source are treated.

The OP has not once implied that he would be actively looking for a job in those 3 months. I don't know where you're getting that from.

mp22

Thread about done I think.

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