Lourdes flooded again

angeleyes

for the second time since October. My diocesan group are out in Lourdes at the moment - so not fun for the sick/invalids who stay in the hospital and the helpers/medical staff who take care of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kAcVThC_82s

Onesimus

angeleyes wrote: »

for the second time since October. My diocesan group are out in Lourdes at the moment - so not fun for the invalids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kAcVThC_82s

The invalids? I am sorry I know you don't meant to but it's like your referring to them is if they are a different class altogether. I just think its the wrong....way to say it?

feargale

Onesimus wrote: »

The invalids? I am sorry I know you don't meant to but it's like your referring to them is if they are a different class altogether. I just think its the wrong....way to say it?

Some people rise in the morning and the day isn't right until they can be offended by somebody.

MrPudding

Onesimus wrote: »

The invalids? I am sorry I know you don't meant to but it's like your referring to them is if they are a different class altogether. I just think its the wrong....way to say it?

Perhaps (s)he is merely referring to them as a class of person more likely to suffer inconvenience due to the flooding...

Would you be offended, for example, if I dared to suggest that an out of order lift at a railway station meant trying to use that station would not be a barrel of laughs for the disabled or those with mobility issues, dare I say invalids?

MrP

Sulla Felix

I don't know, I'm not one to toot the PC trumpet, but the use of invalid at least suggests that everyone else is "valid". Disabled is acceptable, since it's the truth. Someone in a wheelchair just isn't as able bodied as someone who isn't.

Manach

Offhand, I think in various recent legislation the term "Disability" is used meaning - a total or partial absence of bodily or mental functions, including absence of part of body.

On topic, I hope the OP and their group fares well in the inclement weather.

matTNT

Onesimus wrote: »

The invalids? I am sorry I know you don't meant to but it's like your referring to them is if they are a different class altogether. I just think its the wrong....way to say it?

Don't beat around the bush, it's the correct term.

The dictionary offers this definintion, do you object to it?
Noun
A person made weak or disabled by illness or injury.

feargale

Sulla Felix wrote: »

I don't know, I'm not one to toot the PC trumpet, but the use of invalid at least suggests that everyone else is "valid". Disabled is acceptable, since it's the truth. Someone in a wheelchair just isn't as able bodied as someone who isn't.

Wrong. Latin validus has the primary meaning of strong, sturdy, healthy, able, well. Conversely, invalidus means infirm, weak, feeble, unwell. If you call invalidity an antonym of validity you may as well object to Shakespeare's word for a rabbit - cony ( cognate with Irish coinin - excuse lack of accent due to deficient apparatus. ) It's etymological meaning is a little dog.
I wouldn't presume to phone an officer in the field of battle, leading his men to safety, to tell him his language was non-PC. All of this does a disservice to the humane, unselfish OP who took the trouble to come on here to express concern for the unfortunate invalids in Lourdes for whom OP is caring.
I'm reminded of the French grammarian Dominique Bouhours ( 1628-1702 ) who, on his deathbed, immortalised himself with his last words : " I am about to die - or I am going to die : either expression is used." Nero, fiddles and Rome also come to mind.

angeleyes

oh for goodness sake people you read this thead and it takes a complete and different turn.

I suppose I have to make myself clear, and re edit my original post is that the hospital where the invalids stay is closed it seems as the bridges over the River Gave have been closed. So what I mean is that for people who are sick and in Lourdes collectively called "the sick" or "invalids" it has to be difficult for them as the hospital where they stay is closed with no electricity which will cause further hardship. A group from my diocese are presently in Lourdes so I am thinking of the sick and the people taking care of the sick as their workload is difficult.

Onesimus - did you not look at the video showing the flooding - that was the premise of this thread - refer to the heading "Lourdes flooded again"

feargale

angeleyes wrote: »

for the second time since October. My diocesan group are out in Lourdes at the moment - so not fun for the sick/invalids who stay in the hospital and the helpers/medical staff who take care of them.

What's the latest from Lourdes? It's been on the news here just now that one person has died.

angeleyes

feargale wrote: »

What's the latest from Lourdes? It's been on the news here just now that one person has died.

Oh no that's terrible. From what I've heard from my friends there at the minute with Cashel & Emly - the invalids were evacuted from the hospital and hotels had rooms set aside for them. The two bridges over the Gave have been badly damaged - this is the latest video on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LourdesWebTV?feature=csp-in-feed

Fattes

Maybe it is god punishing Lourdes for being a tacky hole!

angeleyes

Fattes wrote: »

Maybe it is god punishing Lourdes for being a tacky hole!

lol Fattes, despite Lourdes being one of my favourite places to be - as I've gone as a helper to the sick, I have to say it is what my DH would call one big religious theme park, but that is outside the Grotto area. But look don't knock it till you've tried it

Fattes

. But look don't knock it till you've tried it

I have been there many times to visit a family members grave. It is a horrible mash of Vegas and Religious tack.

feargale

Have you had to move accomodation angeleyes? When is your group due home?

angeleyes

I didn't go with my group this year feargale - hopefully next year as it is expensive to travel every year even as a helper.

feargale

angeleyes wrote: »

I didn't go with my group this year feargale - hopefully next year as it is expensive to travel every year even as a helper.

You don't get your expenses paid for going as a helper?

angeleyes

feargale wrote: »

You don't get your expenses paid for going as a helper?

Our fares are subsided by the diocese through fund raising etc however, there are a lot of questions I could ask as I feel there are priests etc who get to travel for free even though it is the helpers who do most of the fundraising through an annual draw. But of course those accounts are top secret and we get told things on a need to know basis. Its all down to the Spritual Director who is of course a priest and a bit of a mini dictator.

feargale

angeleyes wrote: »

Our fares are subsided by the diocese through fund raising etc however, there are a lot of questions I could ask as I feel there are priests etc who get to travel for free even though it is the helpers who do most of the fundraising through an annual draw. But of course those accounts are top secret and we get told things on a need to know basis. Its all down to the Spritual Director who is of course a priest and a bit of a mini dictator.

On that score you should be listening to Vincent Browne on tv3 now.

feargale

angeleyes wrote: »

Our fares are subsided by the diocese through fund raising etc however, there are a lot of questions I could ask as I feel there are priests etc who get to travel for free even though it is the helpers who do most of the fundraising through an annual draw. But of course those accounts are top secret and we get told things on a need to know basis. Its all down to the Spritual Director who is of course a priest and a bit of a mini dictator.

Alot of them haven't learned much over the years. Years ago we all brought turf to school to light the fire. I heard my grandmother say that the government gave the schools a fuel subvention, but the parish priest who was school manager kept the money.

angeleyes

feargale wrote: »

Alot of them haven't learned much over the years. Years ago we all brought turf to school to light the fire. I heard my grandmother say that the government gave the schools a fuel subvention, but the parish priest who was school manager kept the money.

Ah yeah of course he did. I've noticed over the years priests sometimes make money their personal God.