Can I remap 2008 BMW 320d Automatic?

from_atozinc

Can a 2008 BMW 320d AUTOMATIC be remapped

It's the 177 bhp version

I just have it in my head that Automatic cars cannot be re mapped.

colm_mcm

from_atozinc wrote: »

Can a 2008 BMW 320d AUTOMATIC be remapped

It's the 177 bhp version

I just have it in my head that Automatic cars cannot be re mapped.

Course they can.
Don't know how wise it is remapping it by anything significant though.

from_atozinc

colm_mcm wrote: »

Course they can.
Don't know how wise it is remapping it by anything significant though.

Thanks.

Why would it not be wise ?

colm_mcm

from_atozinc wrote: »

Thanks.

Why would it not be wise ?

My feeling is that its already a lot of power from a 2.0
That said i don't know a whole lot about how much extra strain that engine and transmission can reliably take.
Plenty of people will know how far you can go but personally id leave it as is.

s14driftking

ive a 330d automatic 204 brake remapped to over 240 brake and 400 foot pounds a torque and no problems with anything on it and over 150000 miles on engine and box, remapped according to last owner about 30000 miles ago

colm_mcm

You do have 50% more engine there to be fair. 80hp per litre. OPs car is already beyond that.
Not scientific of course

s14driftking

colm_mcm wrote: »

You do have 50% more engine there to be fair. 80hp per litre. OPs car is already beyond that.
Not scientific of course

true but i woundnt be afraid of pushing the op,s car to 200 brake if it was save to do so.
realistically u wont be on full power the whole time so id go for it and enjoy it the odd time u use it which will mainly just be overtaking etc.

Max Power1

Think I would rather spend the money on a larger engined BMW than remap the smallest tbh

As already mentioned 177bhp from a 2.0d is getting up to be a fair bit from such a small engine as it is. Any more than 180-200 and you are risking it.

OP if you want more power sell it and buy a 335d!

YbFocus

Yeah I'd be very wary of doing it, that engine is fairly squeezed to release that power.

Reading about it now and it says that the auto box starts to give trouble from the torque, the torque converter gives up!

Lots of people saying buy a 330d or a 335d that will have that power and more without leaving extra stress on it. They're a big old barge of an engine and produce that power without trouble

Gumbo

Max Power1 wrote: »

Think I would rather spend the money on a larger engined BMW than remap the smallest tbh

As already mentioned 177bhp from a 2.0d is getting up to be a fair bit from such a small engine as it is. Any more than 180-200 and you are risking it.

OP if you want more power sell it and buy a 335d!

The new agae 2.0 engine produces 184bhp and BME offer a remap to 200bhp but its mental money compared to aftermarket remaps.

The previous 177bhp engine (E60/E90/E92/E93 etc) remaps to 210bhp safely and within the cars limits. I know of 2008 cars that were mapped a week after buying and still driving perfect today. as with all cars, you just have to remember to treat the engine with respect, ie. servicing, warming up, cooling down etc

would recommend :

Martin in www.autoremap.com in Bray
http://www.chippedire.com/ in Dunboyne

Max Power1

kceire wrote: »

The new agae 2.0 engine produces 184bhp and BME offer a remap to 200bhp but its mental money compared to aftermarket remaps.

The previous 177bhp engine (E60/E90/E92/E93 etc) remaps to 210bhp safely and within the cars limits. I know of 2008 cars that were mapped a week after buying and still driving perfect today. as with all cars, you just have to remember to treat the engine with respect, ie. servicing, warming up, cooling down etc

would recommend :

Martin in www.autoremap.com in Bray
http://www.chippedire.com/ in Dunboyne

Yes, and if you look at my original post, I said anything further than 180-200 bhp from that engine was pushing it. 210 is a lot to extract from a 2.0 engine - you are breaking the 100hp/liter barrier there.

As I said already, if you have the cash and desire to remap a 320, why not just buy one of its bigger brothers!

Off topic slightly, I'm going to get my 535 remapped in the near future. What are that auto-remap place like in bray that you linked to?

from_atozinc

Thanks all

So the general concenus seems to be not to bother re mapping the 320 D auto.

Gumbo

Max Power1 wrote: »

Yes, and if you look at my original post, I said anything further than 180-200 bhp from that engine was pushing it. 210 is a lot to extract from a 2.0 engine - you are breaking the 100hp/liter barrier there.

As I said already, if you have the cash and desire to remap a 320, why not just buy one of its bigger brothers!

Off topic slightly, I'm going to get my 535 remapped in the near future. What are that auto-remap place like in bray that you linked to?

Remapping a 320d is significantly cheaper than buying a 330d for example. Wi the increased motor tax and fuel charges, people may prefer the 320 mapped.

Same argument could be said for the 535d, why not pay more for the 40d engine, although I don't think that's available, in the E60.

But anyway. I would recommend auto remap all day long.
I've had my 318d, 320d, 530d, 525d done and no problems, and when I need thenE36 done, I will be going back to Martin.

He has an X5 as a daily, E39 M5 as a weekend car, an E36 M3 as a track car and he races in a small,cup series using a Fiesta so he knows what he's doing.

He also insists on a test drive of every 535d he remapped, as he says thebtorqu and transformation in the car afterwards is immense!

Max Power1

kceire wrote: »

Remapping a 320d is significantly cheaper than buying a 330d for example. Wi the increased motor tax and fuel charges, people may prefer the 320 mapped.

Same argument could be said for the 535d, why not pay more for the 40d engine, although I don't think that's available, in the E60.

But anyway. I would recommend auto remap all day long.
I've had my 318d, 320d, 530d, 525d done and no problems, and when I need thenE36 done, I will be going back to Martin.

He has an X5 as a daily, E39 M5 as a weekend car, an E36 M3 as a track car and he races in a small,cup series using a Fiesta so he knows what he's doing.

He also insists on a test drive of every 535d he remapped, as he says thebtorqu and transformation in the car afterwards is immense!

Haha good, always better to get work done like ECU/remaps etc by an enthusiast. Ill have to check them out.

Btw, I would have gone for a 540d if they existed in e60 guise but they dont. I dont think even the f10 has a 540d. It goes 535d then 550xd (which is LHD only afaik).

Sure if you want more power and better driving experience (and are prepared to pay for a remap up to 200hp - which isnt so much in a heavy car like the 320d) what is a couple of hundred extra p.a. and 2-3 mpg worse to go up to a 330d

Gumbo

Max Power1 wrote: »

Sure if you want more power and better driving experience (and are prepared to pay for a remap up to 200hp - which isnt so much in a heavy car like the 320d) what is a couple of hundred extra p.a. and 2-3 mpg worse to go up to a 330d

I've had both and I do t buy into most MPG claims out there. I got 25mpg in my 530d constantly, and 20mpg in my 525d constantly. The 320d co stanly averaged 36.6mpg.

All doing the same driving and same commute so comparisons are very similar and scientific

Out of curiousity I will add some of my other cars doing the same driving :

2001 Audi S3 remapped to 255bhp : 20.9
1999 BMW E36 323i with M50 manifold conversion, BBTB and eisenmann exhaust and k&n : 22.5

Max Power1

kceire wrote: »

I've had both and I do t buy into most MPG claims out there. I got 25mpg in my 530d constantly, and 20mpg in my 525d constantly. The 320d co stanly averaged 36.6mpg.

Not sure what you are saying here, please spell it out as Im obviously missing something blatantly obvious!

On the 535d I've gotten between 26-33 mpg from a full tank (best was 36 mpg, but that was all motorway). Current OBC figure is 9.1l/100km, which has not been reset since I bought the car. Works out at 31 mpg, not so bad for a twin turbo 3.0. I've gone for some, ahem, spirited drives too so its not like ive been nannying it!

challengemaster

Max Power1 wrote: »

Think I would rather spend the money on a larger engined BMW than remap the smallest tbh

As already mentioned 177bhp from a 2.0d is getting up to be a fair bit from such a small engine as it is. Any more than 180-200 and you are risking it.

OP if you want more power sell it and buy a 335d!

This has to be the most illogical thing that gets posted every time this comes up. The difference in tax between the 320d and the 330d is enough to buy a remap, never mind the price difference. You don't have to keep buying new remaps every year though.

Also I'd love to know where the idea the engine is already stretched is coming from. Tell that to Mercedes, their A45 AMG has 355bhp from a 2L.

Realistically the engine is fine, its well within its limits even remapped. The gearbox will probably give trouble long before the engine will.

bmwguy

kceire wrote: »

I've had both and I do t buy into most MPG claims out there. I got 25mpg in my 530d constantly, and 20mpg in my 525d constantly. The 320d co stanly averaged 36.6mpg.

All doing the same driving and same commute so comparisons are very similar and scientific


Out of curiousity I will add some of my other cars doing the same driving :

2001 Audi S3 remapped to 255bhp : 20.9
1999 BMW E36 323i with M50 manifold conversion, BBTB and eisenmann exhaust and k&n : 22.5

Is that all you get from 525d and 530d? I had a 530i and was getting the same as your 530d. I'm interested in getting a 530d e39, but if thats what I'll get another 530i. You must drive it hard and/or do a lot of town driving?

Max Power1

bmwguy wrote: »

Is that all you get from 525d and 530d? I had a 530i and was getting the same as your 530d. I'm interested in getting a 530d e39, but if thats what I'll get another 530i. You must drive it hard and/or do a lot of town driving?

I get more that that from my pre LCI 535, those mpgs are very low - I guess its either town driving and/or "spirited" driving :P

challengemaster

kceire wrote: »

The 320d co stanly averaged 36.6mpg.

There's something wrong with that car. Might be the thermostat, or something else, but I'm getting anywhere from 42 - 54MPG depending on driving. Lowest I've had was 38 and that was with a shagged 'stat.

(E46 320Cd)

bmstuff

kceire wrote: »

Remapping a 320d is significantly cheaper than buying a 330d for example. Wi the increased motor tax and fuel charges, people may prefer the 320 mapped.

Same argument could be said for the 535d, why not pay more for the 40d engine, although I don't think that's available, in the E60.

But anyway. I would recommend auto remap all day long.
I've had my 318d, 320d, 530d, 525d done and no problems, and when I need thenE36 done, I will be going back to Martin.

He has an X5 as a daily, E39 M5 as a weekend car, an E36 M3 as a track car and he races in a small,cup series using a Fiesta so he knows what he's doing.

He also insists on a test drive of every 535d he remapped, as he says thebtorqu and transformation in the car afterwards is immense!

+1 for Martin

from_atozinc

Jaysus lads

I'm totally confused now

Some are saying getting a remap on the 320 D with auto is too much for the engine.

Others are saying its fine

Confused.

George Dalton

Do it OP. It will transform the car. The posters who are advocating the "sell it and buy a 330D" approach obviously haven't done the maths.

Blazer

Did it over a year ago on my 07 520D (163hp) and it's been running flawlessly since. Really transformed the car and highly recommended.
Ignore the doomsayers saying 2l engines are pushing it as max as possible...every car released to consumers really only runs about 60-70% of capability because of manufacturers trying to meet c02 emissions across different countries.

from_atozinc

bmstuff wrote: »

+1 for Martin

Which crowd does this Martin lad work for ?

Blazer

from_atozinc wrote: »

Which crowd does this Martin lad work for ?

autoremap.ie...very highly recommended as they also use a dyno to test car etc while doing the remap..

head over to the bmw-drivers.net forum ..they have a section on there

http://www.bmw-driver.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=25

from_atozinc

Blazer wrote: »

Did it over a year ago on my 07 520D (163hp) and it's been running flawlessly since. Really transformed the car and highly recommended.
Ignore the doomsayers saying 2l engines are pushing it as max as possible...every car released to consumers really only runs about 60-70% of capability because of manufacturers trying to meet c02 emissions across different countries.

Blazer

Is your car manual or automatic ?
Where did you do it ?
Did your insurance go up by much ?

unkel

Engine can handle a lot more than 200BHP. Sure BMW had this same engine in the 1-series producing 204BHP standard. And people remapped that to 250BHP

Engine and autobox will be fine. I'd be a lot more worried about the timing chain though :pac:

from_atozinc

unkel wrote: »

Engine can handle a lot more than 200BHP. Sure BMW had this same engine in the 1-series producing 204BHP standard. And people remapped that to 250BHP

Engine and autobox will be fine. I'd be a lot more worried about the timing chain though :pac:

Thanks.
Would a re map cause extra strain on the timing chain ?

bazz26

from_atozinc wrote: »

Thanks.
Would a re map cause extra strain on the timing chain ?

No, what Unkel is saying is that you should google "BMW N47 engine timing chain issues". It's well documented. There is a greater chance of the timing chain snapping on that engine than a remap doing damage to it.

Blazer

from_atozinc wrote: »

Blazer

Is your car manual or automatic ?
Where did you do it ?
Did your insurance go up by much ?

Mine is manual..got it done by autotune and couldn't fault them to be honest.
I had the guy call to me at my workplace as I couldn't afford the time to go to autoremap as I'm down in Limerick..
I tried explaining it to my insurance company at the time but they were bloody clueless and didn't bother ringing me back to confirm details..
most insurance companies will allow you mods of upto 25% on power but some base their increase in 10% increments etc..

ian87

unkel wrote: »

Engine can handle a lot more than 200BHP. Sure BMW had this same engine in the 1-series producing 204BHP standard. And people remapped that to 250BHP

Engine and autobox will be fine. I'd be a lot more worried about the timing chain though :pac:

That engine is technically the same ie an N47 but it does have an extra turbo. Not exactly the same as a remap in fairness..