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Where will human technological evolution take us?

  • 15-06-2013 9:17pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭


    We are living in an unprecedented age of technology.
    Its moving so fast its hard to keep up with.
    So many pros... and cons.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Haven't seen anything new in twenty years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    kneemos wrote: »
    Haven't seen anything new in twenty years.

    About time to leave the bomb shelter so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 699 ✭✭✭mikehammer67


    mad max


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 90 ✭✭CarlDunne1979


    Sex robots. Anything else is useless and disinteresting in comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    Either this or somewhere along the way...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    I'd like to have one big eye in the middle of my forehead.

    Cycloch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    LED penis lazers.......for eh, nightime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    LED penis lazers.......for eh, nightime.

    Until the cat comes into the room for a helping of shredded cock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Will this new world have jam?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    Will this new world have jam?

    Soylent Green jam I believe.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    To hell

    "As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decision for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better result than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide."

    -Unabomber


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Soylent Green jam I believe.

    Now with actual Kurds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    kowloon wrote: »
    Now with actual Kurds.

    Ooooooooooooooh zing! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    To hell

    "As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decision for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better result than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide."

    -Unabomber
    A lad on a JCB could accidently dig up some fiber. .
    That would turn it off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    Technology could take us anywhere but first we need to stop working to pay off those that shall be paid off. If you get my meaning. Until then we will stay exactly where we are; going around in perpetual useless circles.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 71 ✭✭Fratoue


    Slave like robots, what the ruling class want, one of the great minds to ever come out of Ireland , Michael Tsarion is one the ball with this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZtJ_ld-meE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭genuine leather


    Fratoue wrote: »
    Slave like robots, what the ruling class want, one of the great minds to ever come out of Ireland , Michael Tsarion is one the ball with this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZtJ_ld-meE

    M Tsarion gives plenty of food for thought Fratoue.
    The thinking of hierarchy, the governing people, yes i feel that control of the masses is a master plan for these elite.
    Even though i use one of their most important mediums,the internet, how as individuals/collective do we counteract where this is all going?
    Is it possible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    People seem to think the internet is a major technological leap forward when all it really is is a more conveoient way to shop,listen to music and talk to each other,I don't think you could compare it the steam engine,nuclear energy or the discovery of flight in terms of advancement.At the moment it looks as if we are in a pretty stagnent phase of human developement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    Kneemos you have the internet all wrong.

    The internet is a combination of networks. Communication is one of the most important aspect of human life. We are the social by nature.

    Just in the work I do, we have webinars, training sessions, sales sessions, meetings, EGMs, live feeds, the list goes on, all available to a user once they have an internet connection. Databases, e-mails, remote assistance list goes on. All available on a cheap internet.

    To say the net is just for chatting and buying is way off. That's just recreational internet use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Nabber wrote: »
    Kneemos you have the internet all wrong.

    The internet is a combination of networks. Communication is one of the most important aspect of human life. We are the social by nature.

    Just in the work I do, we have webinars, training sessions, sales sessions, meetings, EGMs, live feeds, the list goes on, all available to a user once they have an internet connection. Databases, e-mails, remote assistance list goes on. All available on a cheap internet.

    To say the net is just for chatting and buying is way off. That's just recreational internet use.

    The point I'm making is that there is nothing new just more convenient ways of doing what we have always done.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭genuine leather


    kneemos wrote: »
    The point I'm making is that there is nothing new just more convenient ways of doing what we have always done.

    I would like to feel that is the case kneemos, yes convenient, but everything,imo, we do on the internet is visible to someone, databases being built up about our every move/search on the internet.

    nabber explains it in detail(+1) how vast the possibilities are of the internet
    and how much scope there is to read into the human mindset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,848 ✭✭✭bleg


    kneemos wrote: »
    The point I'm making is that there is nothing new just more convenient ways of doing what we have always done.

    Like the printing press?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,592 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    bleg wrote: »
    Like the printing press?

    The availability of information is mindblowing in fairness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    kneemos wrote: »
    People seem to think the internet is a major technological leap forward...

    We're alive at the beginning of the information revolution. I believe it will be looked back upon with similar significance as the industrial revolution in time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    We're alive at the beginning of the information revolution. I believe it will be looked back upon with similar significance as the industrial revolution in time.

    Deep in the wasteland, a man digs. Turning loose soil he finds a thickly bound book with a faded blue bird on the cover. As he turns over his discovery, a few loose pages spill out. These, he will discover, are tweets, printed out as the internet consumed itself. A desperate attempt to preserve the world as it was. A world consumed by Teh Lulz and leaving a thousand year legacy of celebrity diets, snuggies and the now extinct 'cat'. Future generations will call this book The Dead Sea Tweets as those can be said to abstain from mainstream media teach the word of the Lol. All will repeat endlessly and all will want for cheezburger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    Will this new world have jam?

    Considering the drop in the bee population -
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/steps-to-halt-decline-of-bee-population-should-be-supported-1.1384421

    -maybe not.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭Fridge


    Black Mirror had some interesting ideas on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭genuine leather


    We're alive at the beginning of the information revolution. I believe it will be looked back upon with similar significance as the industrial revolution in time.

    Good insight CC,
    Wonder will there be jam for mike d in the new world :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    Fratoue wrote: »
    Slave like robots, what the ruling class want, one of the great minds to ever come out of Ireland , Michael Tsarion is one the ball with this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZtJ_ld-meE
    I find the term post human appropriate and probably closer to reality than any science fiction/doomsday portrayal of events.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    There's a story by EM Forster called 'The Machine Stops'. It's really short but it makes for a strange read when you realise it was written in 1909.

    http://archive.ncsa.illinois.edu/prajlich/forster.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 71 ✭✭Fratoue


    M Tsarion gives plenty of food for thought Fratoue.
    The thinking of hierarchy, the governing people, yes i feel that control of the masses is a master plan for these elite.
    Even though i use one of their most important mediums,the internet, how as individuals/collective do we counteract where this is all going?
    Is it possible?

    Yes he's a tremendously intelligent man hence why he's not well known in Ireland!

    Nice to see someone open to his analysis as I always thought people on boards.ie were asleep to the ruling classes agenda to be honest hence why I left this for years on end.

    Here's hoping we can do something to counteract this nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,553 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I think the progression into quantum computing will be the next real gamechanger. It's the type of invention where even the people who develop it are not really sure what it's capabilities are.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭policarp


    Will this new world have jam?

    Probably wedge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 Higher_Primate


    Have you ever see Wall-E OP?
    That's where we are heading, floating fat chairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭genuine leather


    kowloon wrote: »
    There's a story by EM Forster called 'The Machine Stops'. It's really short but it makes for a strange read when you realise it was written in 1909

    http://archive.ncsa.illinois.edu/prajlich/forster.html

    That was writing before its time kowloon, the possibilities of thought, and over 100yrs ago!
    Fratoue wrote: »
    Yes he's a tremendously intelligent man hence why he's not well known in Ireland!

    Nice to see someone open to his analysis as I always thought people on boards.ie were asleep to the ruling classes agenda to be honest hence why I left this for years on end.

    Here's hoping we can do something to counteract this nonsense.

    I feel there will be some type of rebellion against this, how? that will unfold, an unknown for now, but these elite will try,and are, a few steps ahead,for now.
    JRant wrote: »
    I think the progression into quantum computing will be the next real gamechanger. It's the type of invention where even the people who develop it are not really sure what it's capabilities are.

    Frightening thought rant,gamechanger being a good analogy.
    EM Forster would love to have got his teeth into Quantum Computing!

    Have you ever see Wall-E OP?
    That's where we are heading, floating fat chairs.

    Yes, have seen it H_P, The poluted earth, even in animation was mad viewing.

    World energy volatility,refuse,pollution, nuclear, depleting resources, the list can go on. But these people at the top are ruthless.....at whatever cost.
    And one third, about i think, of the worlds population are a press of a return key from each other. Thats a big database.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton



    I feel there will be some type of rebellion against this, how? that will unfold, an unknown for now, but these elite will try,and are, a few steps ahead,for now.
    if there is it will be an internal one where people struggle to identify the self


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,585 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    If I get asked to conceptualise and shape my private self I'm going to do it with Nikolas Rose's head on a pike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    In the next few decades (3 at most) I think we will be able to grow back limbs in amputees and restore sight to the blind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    JRant wrote: »
    I think the progression into quantum computing will be the next real gamechanger. It's the type of invention where even the people who develop it are not really sure what it's capabilities are.

    Well the transistor itself uses works by availing of principles of quantum mechanics. The discovery of the Higgs Boson could have huge applications for quantum computing too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭genuine leather


    pharmaton wrote: »
    if there is it will be an internal one where people struggle to identify the self

    Good point pharmaton,all thru life, daily for me, people are trying to find ones self, i feel thats the beauty of invention and re invention, constantly evolving minds, by not giving up and fighting our corner.
    kowloon wrote: »
    If I get asked to conceptualise and shape my private self I'm going to do it with Nikolas Rose's head on a pike.

    Not familiar with his work but briefly looking thru some of it,he has quite a few strings to his bow to say,conceptualise, yeah i see where you are going.
    steddyeddy wrote: »
    In the next few decades (3 at most) I think we will be able to grow back limbs in amputees and restore sight to the blind.

    steddy that is one of many,many good things that will come from modern science and technology, the mind boggles at the possibilities,
    steddyeddy wrote: »
    Well the transistor itself uses works by availing of principles of quantum mechanics. The discovery of the Higgs Boson could have huge applications for quantum computing too!

    Higgs boson will open a pandoras box of new physics and theorys,

    I am very grateful to be living in the age we are, for all the honest and honourable reasons, sadly its darkened somewhat by the sinister elements


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