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Anyone else finding it hard to get work?

  • 15-06-2013 4:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭


    Hi everyone,
    I was just wondering is anyone else finding it hard to get eithier voluntary work or an internship, CE Scheme or Jobbridge position?
    I have strated applying for office work this year and have had one interview but did not get the job. 1 - 2 years ago I was also looking for work, probably in the summer and had about 3 -4 interviews but did not get the job for any of them. I do not have much admin experience but the thing is how do I get some experience when employers choose someone with more experience over me? I have the right qualifications but not enough experience. Should I ask around for voluntary work e.g. in a library or should I just apply for university for when the CAO Applications open up again in September?

    Thank you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Mister Jingles


    Not been smart but a few hundred thousand Irish people are also finding it difficult to get work of any sort these days. Unless you have some sort of IT qualification it will be difficult to find work these days.

    Personally I don't agree with working for free except in certain cases like in a charity shop and similar. Anyone who works should be paid for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 grey99


    Yeah I am finding it hard to get an internship also, which is frustrating. Just wondering if you found anything in the end?

    What about other people?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Jonny Blaze


    Not been smart but a few hundred thousand Irish people are also finding it difficult to get work of any sort these days. Unless you have some sort of IT qualification it will be difficult to find work these days.

    Have a degree in computer science and still struggling..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    Not being smart but everyone should do marketing and perhaps small business skills at school. If they cut out the literature and maybe some of the more esoteric and arcane stuff in English and other communication related subjects such as Business Studies, etc and concentrated on getting people to sell themselves we could make a dent in the unemployment problem.

    It is very unfair that there are people out there who are very good workers and have huge potential but cannot get a job and yet I have come across some really incompetent people in full time jobs on good money who should have been let go years ago. But jobseekers and young people in general probably need to learn that life in general can be unfair and some people they deal with in their working lives can be operating below whats ideal for a job.

    The current recession is not new to Ireland, but what is new is that our nearest neighbour is now a lot less worthwhile going to than in previous years, high cost of living and even lower wages than here unless you are very good at what you do. I would only consider UK in terms of getting experience and development in a work field that has direct relevance to vacant jobs in Ireland.
    A year or two in the UK knocks the experience conundrum on the head even if the pay is low its got to be better than job-bridge. If you do job bridge make sure that the experience and learning are generic and in demand on the general market.....keep in touch with the greater working community in your field and see what the general work conditions are rather than rely on the conditions and market climate of one organisation or company. Also keep in touch with the Job-bridge supervisor who should be adjudicating placement conditions, expectations, hours worked etc....

    Personally, I do not think much of job-bridge placements for such jobs as shelf stacking etc or other catering or service related jobs which can be learned in a few days....... nine months of government sponsored labour for such jobs hurts not only the individual placee but also the general tax-paying public who have to foot the bill at the end of the day. While it is difficult to do so such placements should be vetted for quality and depth of experience gained and any expoitation and displacement of existing labour pool and practices should not be allowed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    Hope I don't sound arrogant by saying this but I have always found it quite easy to find work. I don't have a degree either, qualified up to level 6. I got let go at the end of December last year and got another job at the end of January this year.

    Google interview and cv tips. Spend a lot of time thinking of your answers to possible questions they may ask in interviews. Work on your confidence (I am not confident at all, but if you know what you are talking about in an interview you will seem confident). Overhaul your CV and cover letter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,711 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    doolox wrote: »
    Not being smart but everyone should do marketing and perhaps small business skills at school. If they cut out the literature and maybe some of the more esoteric and arcane stuff in English and other communication related subjects such as Business Studies, etc and concentrated on getting people to sell themselves we could make a dent in the unemployment problem.

    I agree with everything you said, except the above, I would hate to see schools become career bootcamps. If the outpouring of sadness at the death of Seamus Heaney has shown us anything it is just how many people have benefitted from being allowed to study humanists, deep thinkers and masters of language at school. That includes Shakespeare, Sophocles and Jane Austen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    You should really consider emigrating.

    I went travelling over two years ago and settled in China.

    Why stay in Ireland getting depressed when you can living in a foreign country earning money and learning a new language?

    In Asian countries (apart from Japan) you can stay in really cheap hostels and eat local food so your expenses can be very low.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭dpp v mcgee


    You should really consider emigrating.

    I went travelling over two years ago and settled in China.

    Why stay in Ireland getting depressed when you can living in a foreign country earning money and learning a new language?

    In Asian countries (apart from Japan) you can stay in really cheap hostels and eat local food so your expenses can be very low.

    Is it only English teaching jobs that are available in Asian countries or can you get a job relevant to your degree?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Why is IT doing so well lately?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,001 ✭✭✭Mr. Loverman


    Is it only English teaching jobs that are available in Asian countries or can you get a job relevant to your degree?

    I'm a director in a multinational. IT stuff.

    I'd recommend you teach English instead though... much less stress and much higher quality of life.

    My job is a nightmare because the Chinese education system removes critical thinking, independent thought, independent research, and trains everyone to only understand memorization. That's why China is so good at factory work but terrible at anything which requires creativity or initiative or general cop on.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Why is IT doing so well lately?

    If you are good at IT there is always work.

    It's really that simple.

    When computers don't work firms panic and they are happy to pay for things to run smoothly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    Zambia wrote: »
    If you are good at IT there is always work.

    It's really that simple.

    When computers don't work firms panic and they are happy to pay for things to run smoothly.
    The RBS kind of proved that the traditional view is gone. They outsourced something they didn't see as important regardless of the risk warnings. It may actually have stopped the tide to an extent but companies are devaluing their IT structure.

    I wouldn't bank on as much IT work being always around in this country. It is a bit like when TV repair men were vital as TVs need constant repair. TVs then became cheaper and more reliable. IT systems may very well move that way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Naked Lepper


    Ray Palmer wrote: »

    I wouldn't bank on as much IT work being always around in this country. It is a bit like when TV repair men were vital as TVs need constant repair. TVs then became cheaper and more reliable. IT systems may very well move that way


    i have to disagree with that analogy,
    you cant compare the IT industry to TV repair men
    a lot of people seem to have this one dimensional view of IT as being helpdesk support when thats just the tip of the ice berg, i understand that a lot of complex technical engineering/networking jobs can be filled cheaply in the likes of bangalore etc but there will always be a demand for these positions in the west as well.
    it industry is relatively safe in ireland in my opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    The RBS kind of proved that the traditional view is gone. They outsourced something they didn't see as important regardless of the risk warnings. It may actually have stopped the tide to an extent but companies are devaluing their IT structure.

    I wouldn't bank on as much IT work being always around in this country. It is a bit like when TV repair men were vital as TVs need constant repair. TVs then became cheaper and more reliable. IT systems may very well move that way

    Ray outsourcing is fine except you still need people to speak to outsources.

    Would you agree tv designers are still required as its a better example.?


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