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Whitegate up for sale.

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  • 14-06-2013 8:00pm
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    Rocky Bay
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭


    According to last Saturdays Evening Echo the Whitegate refinery is up for sale. Any thoughts or comments?


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    LiamoSail
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    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    According to last Saturdays Evening Echo the Whitegate refinery is up for sale. Any thoughts or comments?

    Maybe someone with an ounce of decency will take over and they'll allow shore leave via their terminal


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    goldie fish
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    LiamoSail wrote: »
    Maybe someone with an ounce of decency will take over and they'll allow shore leave via their terminal

    ISPS prevents it.


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    LiamoSail
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭LiamoSail


    goldie fish wrote: »
    ISPS prevents it.

    The ISPS code doesn't prevent shore leave. The terminals inability to comply with the requirements of the code in this regard may, but that's down to the terminal, not the code. Pretty much every other terminal n Europe allow shore leave, so the problem isn't the code


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    goldie fish
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    So we are both right.


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    LiamoSail
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    goldie fish wrote: »
    So we are both right.

    My point is that the code does not prevent shore leave, it regulates the security requirements necessary to facilitate it. Whitegate, for whatever reason, will not or are unable to comply where the vast majority of terminals recognise the necessity of shore leave and do comply. So I would maintain that its not The ISPS code preventing shore leave, it's Whitegate's inability to comply with it that's the issue.

    As an aside, even the American ports, as anal as they can be, were all written to by the US Coastguard outlining that shore leave for seafarers is a basic human right, and dismissing ISPS as reason to prevent it


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    goldie fish
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    So how will a change of ownership change the situation?


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    LiamoSail
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    goldie fish wrote: »
    So how will a change of ownership change the situation?

    Maybe they'll have both the decency and competency in this regard that the present owners lack.


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    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    LiamoSail wrote: »
    Maybe they'll have both the decency and competency in this regard that the present owners lack.

    What needs to be changed then?


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    LiamoSail
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭LiamoSail


    goldie fish wrote: »
    What needs to be changed then?

    I don't know what aspect is preventing them from allowing it, I haven't been there in years. What I'd guess its to do with is supervision while passing through the terminal, as you can still send medical cases ashore etc


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