No Irish can apply as the jobs are not advertised (nursing jobs only)

NotCuteHoor

Thousands of third world nurses are working here and the jobs were not advertised in Ireland. Nearly every job (except nursing) that requires a work permit has to be advertised in Ireland under the Labour Market Needs test.
Nursing jobs that employ third world nurses do not have to be advertised in Ireland. So, how could Irish Nurses apply for these jobs? The Labour Market Needs test does not apply to Irish Nursing jobs.
http://www.djei.ie/labour/workpermits/nurses.htm

So, I guess no Irish need apply.

I think Nursing jobs should be advertised same as other jobs. If a hospital wants to employ a nurse the job should be advertised so that everyone can apply for it - even Irish people. I even believe jobs in private hospitals should be advertised.

Mint Sauce

I dont see a job being advertised there. Looks like it simply for people from overseas wanting to work as a nurse, and how to apply for their permits or renew.

Or is this simply a trolling thread directed at the job market/public service.

Chucken

NotCuteHoor wrote: »

Thousands of third world nurses are working here and the jobs were not advertised in Ireland. Nearly every job (except nursing) that requires a work permit has to be advertised in Ireland under the Labour Market Needs test.
Nursing jobs that employ third world nurses do not have to be advertised in Ireland. So, how could Irish Nurses apply for these jobs? The Labour Market Needs test does not apply to Irish Nursing jobs.
http://www.djei.ie/labour/workpermits/nurses.htm

So, I guess no Irish need apply.

Apply for what? I dont see any jobs advertised there

Peregrine

Oooh a foreigner thread, this should be interesting.

NotCuteHoor wrote: »

So, how could Irish Nurses apply for these jobs?

What jobs?

IM0

in b4 the bite

WilyCoyote

Scalpel please

matTNT

Another thinly veiled racist thread. *sigh*

Gran Hermano

Bed baths....

I am pie

Bleedin thousands of furriners....thousands i tell ya.

WilyCoyote

Gran Hermano wrote: »

Bed baths....

Bed&Bathsalts

LiamMc

An Bord Altranais (Nursing Board) is the first stop for a Nursing Job in Ireland
http://www.nursingboard.ie/en/homepage.aspx


What is a third world nurse?

There are migrationary trends in Nursing to do with finances of an individual like nurses from Europe going to Gulf State countries. Nurses from around the World work in the Gulf States incld from India and Philipines

Worser though is the Macro-economic trend of EU States like Republic of Ireland actively recruiting large number s of Nurses from Philippines and south Indian State of Kerala to keep the salary of Irish Nursing down. Language and Religion are other reasons these areas are targeted.



Edit: Training of Nurses in Philippines and Kerala is very, very good and using ethnicity or economic geography to suggest a failing is the typical xenophobic scare-mongering embraced by After Hours.

Further Edit: Many Nurses are recruited in Nursing Homes to care for elderly indigenous (Irish/EU) residents/patients.

Knasher

irish-stew wrote: »

I dont see a job being advertised there.

Hardly surprising that irish-stew doesn't see the advertised jobs. Are there any none Irish out there that can check the page. :pac::pac:

IM0

troll fail. back to school for you

Mint Sauce

NotCuteHoor wrote: »

Thousands of third world nurses are working here and the jobs were not advertised in Ireland. Nearly every job (except nursing) that requires a work permit has to be advertised in Ireland under the Labour Market Needs test.
Nursing jobs that employ third world nurses do not have to be advertised in Ireland. So, how could Irish Nurses apply for these jobs? The Labour Market Needs test does not apply to Irish Nursing jobs.
http://www.djei.ie/labour/workpermits/nurses.htm

So, I guess no Irish need apply.

I think Nursing jobs should be advertised same as other jobs. If a hospital wants to employ a nurse the job should be advertised so that everyone can apply for it - even Irish people. I even believe jobs in private hospitals should be advertised.

Erm. They are.

Scortho

I remember only a few months ago the government advertised 1000 new nursing jobs for graduate nurses.
How many of these were filled? 12.
So there are jobs for graduate nurses, just not at the wages that could be afforded during the celtic tiger.

not yet

Ah but da Irish didn't want them during the boom..

Nodin

matTNT wrote: »

Another thinly veiled racist thread. *sigh*

Theres a veil?

Overheal

Nearly every job (except nursing) that requires a work permit has to be advertised in Ireland under the Labour Market Needs test.
Nursing jobs that employ third world nurses do not have to be advertised in Ireland. So, how could Irish Nurses apply for these jobs? The Labour Market Needs test does not apply to Irish Nursing jobs.
http://www.djei.ie/labour/workpermits/nurses.htm

Wouldn't that simply mean that if you're applying for nursing you can get a work permit to apply for a job (if available) to be a nurse, without going through the means test, ie. "why yes we see there is a need for another Halal Bakery in Dublin" etc.

It doesn't mean they're granted a job, it means they're granted the right to get a job. I can go to the sporting goods store and get a saltwater fishing license for $20 but it doesn't put fresh Cobia on my plate.

Mint Sauce

Any further comment OP?

Norfolk Enchants

Overheal wrote: »

Wouldn't that simply mean that if you're applying for nursing you can get a work permit to apply for a job (if available) to be a nurse, without going through the means test, ie. "why yes we see there is a need for another Halal Bakery in Dublin" etc.

Its a strange one. Only a couple of months ago RTE produced a docu-style programme about recent nursing graduates being forced to emigrate due to no positions being available for them here. Why spend vast sums of cash training people, only yo import others for new positions and force the home trained ones to move away?

NotCuteHoor

I wonder why the Nursing Union (INMO) is ignoring this?

Rasheed

Norfolk Enchants wrote: »

Its a strange one. Only a couple of months ago RTE produced a docu-style programme about recent nursing graduates being forced to emigrate due to no positions being available for them here. Why spend vast sums of cash training people, only yo import others for new positions and force the home trained ones to move away?

The only jobs readily available for nurses in this country at the moment are in private nursing homes. Pay and conditions aside, it's not where you would want to start on your nursing career. Most will want to get serious experience in their first few years. You won't get that in a private nursing home.

Nodin

NotCuteHoor wrote: »

I wonder why the Nursing Union (INMO) is ignoring this?

....because its a non-issue that you made up?

Gatling

Simple economic's

Use overseas agencies to bring in nurses at half the going rate for nurses or apparently less than half the going rate for Irish educated and qualified nurses

I've a lot of respect for our foreign nurses especially from the Philippines ,

LizT

NotCuteHoor, if you actually find a credible source for this, PM me and I'll reopen the thread.