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  • 10-06-2013 8:52pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭


    Hi
    What are these plants are they invasive ? Thx

    Big green leaves..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭F.R.


    Hondo75 wrote: »
    Hi
    What are these plants are they invasive ? Thx

    Big green leaves..

    Giant rhubarb Gunnera tinctoria yes it is invasive.

    See here for details.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭Velvet shank


    F.R. wrote: »
    Giant rhubarb Gunnera tinctoria yes it is invasive.

    See here for details.

    don't think so...looks like Butterbur (Petasites hybridus) - a native species


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 944 ✭✭✭swifts need our help!


    Yes Petasites. Lovely pink flowers before the leaves

    Petasites from the Greek for a hat with a wide brim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Desmo


    don't think so...looks like Butterbur (Petasites hybridus) - a native species

    Good call; definitely not Gunnera; related to P.fragrans aka rats' umbrellas, which is not native, but Butterbur is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    It is a gunnera. Butterbur and gunnera are both common around here and Butterbur it is certainly not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭Hondo75


    Will get a sample later and take more pictures Thx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    If it is Gunnera, and it looks like it, then following on from the recent thread on the dangers of Giant Hogweed, be careful should you decide to remove it. While not in the same league as Hogweed, it can cause an allergic rash in some people.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,876 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    are the leaves rought to the touch? how big are they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭Hondo75


    Leaves are rough to touch and pointy, stalk has a purple color. Leaves are medium size up to large. could be wild rhubarb?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭Hondo75


    Pictures ,have included another plant for identification..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Looks like Gunnera to me. Do the larger stalks have small spikes on them?

    Last one looks like this ...

    http://www.irishwildflowers.ie/pages/179a.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭Velvet shank


    Definitely Butterbur! no more than a very superficial resemblance to Gunnera

    agree the last pic is Bush vetch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭Hondo75


    will check later..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭Hondo75


    http://www.geograph.ie/photo/3143471

    this is butterbar, the ones i see dont look the same


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Leaves are much too large for butterbur . gunners or wild rhubarb for sure

    Other is defiantly vetch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭Velvet shank


    Leaves are much too large for butterbur . gunners or wild rhubarb for sure

    Other is defiantly vetch.



    from 'Webbs An Irish Flora'... 'Petasites hybridus. Butterbur.....Leaves very like those of T. farfara, but much larger, up to 90cm across'.

    I don't see anything in the photos posted to suggest the leaves exceed 90cm in width, nor even come close to it. It's Butterbur.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,876 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    gunnera stalks look thorny underneath; the one in the picture above does not seem to show this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭Desmo


    from 'Webbs An Irish Flora'... 'Petasites hybridus. Butterbur.....Leaves very like those of T. farfara, but much larger, up to 90cm across'.

    I don't see anything in the photos posted to suggest the leaves exceed 90cm in width, nor even come close to it. It's Butterbur.

    For the second time today; I agree with Butterbur.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Petasites_hybridus_leaf.JPG
    If we cannot agree, we should set up a sweepstake.
    Currently I think it is even money Gunnera and 5 to 4 on for Butterbur


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭Ulmus


    Butterbur, I'd say. The stems don't have the fierce thorns of Gunnera.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 mecksimay


    It's not Gunnera, looks more like Butterbur to me (see http://www.irishwildflowers.ie/pages/433a.html)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭Hondo75


    Just seen a Gunnera in the local park, definatly noticed its spikes.. These ones dont have spikes on stalks Thx for all help..


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