Can this puncture be repaired?

robertxxx

AmberAmber

oh course it can be repaired !
take the wheel to a Tyre place and they can plug it , its a matter of putting a bit of rubber in the hole when they take the nail out with a tool that looks like a screw driver . it be like €10 maybe even €7 in some places !
its happened to me , i got a call out to the house and it cost €16 to call out , plug the damage and pump up the wheel , so was very happy, as usual different places different price ! so see how you get on , but main thing is the damage is repairable.
best of luck to you .

George Dalton

Looks like there is a slight bulge in the sidewall in the same place as the screw so in my opinion that tyre is only fit for the bin.

Mycroft H

I see the warp/bulge too round the nail. Bin the tyre and replace it with a part worn of similar thread/quality. Shouldn't cost more than 40e depending on the size.

serious3

the fact you're asking shows you have some doubt, remember that the only thing sticking your car to the road is them four circles of rubber. I wouldn't repair that or have it it repaired

DeKing

Woke up to similar this morning except it was a galvanized nail in the tyre instead of a screw. Your local tyre place should sort it for you and if there's a bulge there as it seems in the picture they should be sure to tell you to replace the tyre.

sundodger5

For arguments sake lets ignore the bulge in the sidewall where it looks like the screw/nail is trying to get back out.
To repair a puncture properly and to the relevant standard the following applies.
Straight penetration with a max diameter of 6 mm. The penetration should be in the centre 2/3 of tread.
That would be classed as an unrepairable puncture as the damage is too close to the sidewall. The plug patch would overlap into the sidewall area which is constantly flexing.
That is if you want it repaired properly you will always have someone say they got one fixed just like this and it was grand. But it is not the correct way or the safest.
Now take into account the bulge...

dgt

I wouldn't repair that. Having said that I've seen worse repaired

gctest50

Looks like it was driven on for ages with low pressure ? ( brown discolouration near the edge of it )

Bulge = plies failing

New tyre needed.

Should be locked up whoever repairs that tyre

Jordan537

Ireland is the only place in the EU where it is not illegal to plug a wheel as a means of puncture repair, damn rite dangerous. If i seen a garage do that to a wheel on my car i would ask him what the fu*k does he think he is doing.

robertxxx

gctest50 wrote: »

Looks like it was driven on for ages with low pressure ?

Bulge = plies failing

New tyre needed.

Should be locked up whoever repairs that tyre

Dam, I've noticed this a week or two now and through laziness I never bothered to get it fixed. So maybe if i acted sooner I could of saved this???


I'm bringing it to tyre shop tomorrow morning, it will be interesting to see what they say.

Nissan doctor

That tyre should not an likely could not be repaired.

Those saying it can just be plugged are giving very poor advice.

As said there is the beginnings of a bulge in the sidewall beside the puncture and even without that, a tyre should never be repaired when the puncture is on the shoulder like that.

Mint Sauce

George Dalton wrote: »

Looks like there is a slight bulge in the sidewall in the same place as the screw so in my opinion that tyre is only fit for the bin.

Was thinking should not be repaired as it is so close to the side wall. Didn't even see the bulge.

goz83

Maybe some fool in a tyre place will plug the hole, but some other guy might be digging your grave soon after. Part worn is the answer.

Supergurrier

Would be repairable only for the bulge(which will only get bigger)

wildcatares22

no. manufacturers say central 2/3 of tyre only. it could be damaged internally so you would need to remove tyre to inspect it. on the other hand any garage can repair this puncture but no garage will guarantee that it wont fail in that location(too close to sidewall), I personally would replace the tyre, like George says "bulge"= internal damage.

mickdw

I agree that it shouldnt be repaired.
Re plugging holes for repairs, is this not the standard practice all over the country?
I have to say Ive never had an issue with a repair that was simply plugged.

sundodger5

mickdw wrote: »

I agree that it shouldnt be repaired.
Re plugging holes for repairs, is this not the standard practice all over the country?
I have to say Ive never had an issue with a repair that was simply plugged.

The problem with the plugs is that they usually don't take the tyre off the rim to check for internal damage.

holdmybeer

Too close to the side wall, I would replace it. If you patch it and drive their is a possibility of a blow out at high speed.

robertxxx

I got it fixed yesterday, in coolmine dublin 15 and the guy said nothing about it.

George Dalton

Why did you even bother posting a thread if you were going to ignore any advice you were given???

robertxxx

Cost, 10euro Vs 60euro

cjt156

Its heartening to know that we're sharing the road with this...

dgt

robertxxx wrote: »

Cost, 10euro Vs 60euro

Or a part worn for 30?

If that blows out and causes an accident at high speed that cost factor will go out the window very fast

dgt

dgt wrote: »

Having said that I've seen worse repaired

Time for something that will make the qualified mechanics/motor enthusiasts cringe.

I traded a set of wheels years ago for another set. The wheels all had tyres. This one caught my eye.....


Yep, plugged :eek:

dh0011

i would never accept a repair using a plug. Patch would seem to be a better job and you can se the inside of the tyre to make sure there is no damage

Merl1n

The tyre is your only contact with the ground when driving
It's always better to be safe rather then sorry with your tyres

No point crying over spilt milk if a dodgy repair causes an accident

BohsCeltic

robertxxx wrote: »

I got it fixed yesterday, in coolmine dublin 15 and the guy said nothing about it.

Let me guess, was it an eastern european garage ?

robertxxx

BohsCeltic wrote: »

Let me guess, was it an eastern european garage ?

No.

starlit

Looks like a nail. I doubt it you need a new tyre. I know a few that happened to and big tyres at that!

Cungi

As an ex-tyre fitter, we would not have repaired that. Too close to the shoulder. and we wouldnt use plugs only patches. However a patch should only be fitted in the central two thirds of the tyre as another poster pointed out.

And with a bulge, we definately would not repair it.

serious3

so against all the advice on here from tyre fitters and garage lads you had it plugged anyway? clap clap clap clap good lad, now do us all a favour and let us know where you do your driving so we can all avoid that general area till the tyre fails and/or you see sense and replace it.

robertxxx

Right boys and girls, this tyre in question has two slow punctures, one is where it was plugged/repaired and another in a more central position.

So the question is, can a repaired puncture be repaired again?

Voodoomelon

Not a chance is that a serious post. You're just here to annoy us, I ain't biting.

maceocc2

robertxxx wrote: »

Right boys and girls, this tyre in question has two slow punctures, one is where it was plugged/repaired and another in a more central position.

So the question is, can a repaired puncture be repaired again?

Are you really asking this, or are you trolling?

robertxxx

No, seriously, can it? Cash is tight and tyres aren't getting any cheaper with increased vat, etc, etc.

Maybe I might look at a part worn tyre, how much would they be?

Cheers

Renegade Mechanic

Im a great man for using plugs but that close to the sidewall, I wouldn't be comfortable.. Id use a patch instead.
That bulge isnt great either. Itll fail an NCT but for now keep a close eye on it and your pressure. If it gets any bigger, bin it.

Truckermal

robertxxx wrote: »

No, seriously, can it? Cash is tight and tyres aren't getting any cheaper with increased vat, etc, etc.

Maybe I might look at a part worn tyre, how much would they be?

Cheers

Maybe you would give up driving for everyone's benefit I hate to think that I share the road with the likes of you..:mad:

CiniO

robertxxx wrote: »

Right boys and girls, this tyre in question has two slow punctures, one is where it was plugged/repaired and another in a more central position.

So the question is, can a repaired puncture be repaired again?

I'd say it can.
Only reason why repaired puncture is still leaking air is because it wasn't properly fixed.
I'm sure it can be fixed again properly.

robertxxx

Well I'm going down to local garage tomorrow to see can i get the two punctures repaired.

If not, I'll have to get a new tyre.
Do the NCT fail you if the tyres are different brands.

CiniO

robertxxx wrote: »

Do the NCT fail you if the tyres are different brands.

No.
There's no requirement in Ireland for tyres to be the same brand, on the same axle.
They must be the same type though and size.

zarquon

If money is that tight get a part worn. It's seriously stupid to replug a previous repair with a bulge as well as another puncture on the same tyre. If you followed the advice earlier you wouldn't have this issue. Plug away though and risk your life and the life of others and then come back in a few weeks/months asking if the same tyre can be repaired again.

robertxxx

CiniO wrote: »

No.
There's no requirement in Ireland for tyres to be the same brand, on the same axle.
They must be the same type though and size.

What do you mean the same type? Like a snow tyre on one wheel and a radial on the other.

But I can have Bridgestone on front left and dunlope on front right.

CiniO

robertxxx wrote: »

What do you mean the same type? Like a snow tyre on one wheel and a radial on the other.

That's what NCT manual says not to mix types on the same axle.
They give examples of cross-ply, radial-ply, runflat, winter, summer.

So I assume you can't have winter tyre on left and summer on right.
Same as you can't have runflat on left, and normal on right.
Or cross-ply on left and radial on right.

But I can have Bridgestone on front left and dunlope on front right.

That's fine in Ireland AFAIK.
You might encounter trouble though when driving abroad.

robertxxx

CiniO wrote: »

You might encounter trouble though when driving abroad.

Thats ok as my car is nearly older than me and won't be going anywhere.

robertxxx

Well in the end I got two dunlop part worn tyres and tracking for €105.

I initially went to the garage where I first got the tyres with the intention to get one new matching tyre (€65) but they didn't have any and wouldn't have them in for weeks!! so went the part worn route.

Fuel consumption looks better already as tthe tracking was way off.