Need help with a gaming + internet pc

Kremin · 07-06-2013 1:47pm #1

1. What is your budget? €600 but I'm willing to spend more if I need to.

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? Gaming + Internet.

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? Nope.

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? No I want it from scratch.

5. Do you need a monitor? Will a TV work as a monitor? if so, no.

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? I'm not sure, it's a 19" Finlux tv.

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? Wireless card yes, speakers and mouse should all be fine as i have a lot lying around.

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? I don't think so.

8. How can you pay? Not sure yet most likely bank as I'm only a teenager but pick up in store or something would be great too.

9. When are you purchasing? Unsure it all depends if i start work early.

tuxy · 07-06-2013 1:54pm

BloodBath · 07-06-2013 2:10pm

Kremin · 07-06-2013 8:26pm

tuxy wrote: »

How about this?

Item|Price
AMD FX-6300 Prozessor, Boxed, Sockel AM3+|€104.02
4GB-Kit Kingston HyperX blu. XMP PC3-12800U CL9-9-9-27|€34.02
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€46.46
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - Intel/AMD|€28.37
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s|€56.74
LiteOn iHAS124-04 schwarz SATA|€16.49
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Windforce 2X, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€164.99
LogiLink Wireless LAN 300 Mbps PCI Karte 802.11n 2T2R|€14.64
Gigabyte GA-970-UD3, AMD 970, AM3+, ATX|€78.45
BitFenix Merc Beta|€31.90
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€595.07

BloodBath wrote: »

An alternative Intel system with 8gb of ram.

Item|Price
Intel Core i5-3330 Box, LGA1155|€159.64
MSI B75MA-P45, Intel B75, mATX, DDR3|€54.72
8GB-Kit GeIL Enhance Corsa PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24 (DDR3-1333)|€54.11
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Windforce 2X, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€164.99
WD Caviar Blue 1TB 6Gb's|€57.27
Zalman T2 Mini Tower - schwarz, ohne Netzteil|€18.95
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W|€46.46
LiteOn iHAS124-04 schwarz SATA|€16.49
ASUS PCE-N15|€14.90
ARCTIC COOLING ARCTIC F12 PWM|€4.17
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€610.69

Thanks for all your help

I asked aroudn to people i know and this is where I'm at right now

CPU AMD FX-4100 3.6GHz Quad-Core

Motherboard ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+

Memory Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600

Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM

Video Card Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB

Wireless Network Adapter TP-Link TL-WN751ND 802.11b/g/n PCI

Case Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower

Power Supply Corsair 600W ATX12V

Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Write

With this current setup it costs about €550 without a power supply as I need to find one on an Irish site and 600w is currently overkill. Is there anything else you guys suggest on this changing or what not. I think I'll need more fans/coolers right?

tuxy · 07-06-2013 8:34pm

Your build is lower performance than both builds recommended and will still cost you the same once you add a PSU.
Why can you only order from an Irish site?
Hardwareversand accepts bank transfers, you don't need a credit card.

The 650 ti boost is a very low end card and not worth the money. A 7790 will beat a 650 ti and cost less but the 660 is worth the money if you have it.

Kremin · 07-06-2013 9:23pm

tuxy wrote: »

Your build is lower performance than both builds recommended and will still cost you the same once you add a PSU.
Why can you only order from an Irish site?
Hardwareversand accepts bank transfers, you don't need a credit card.

The 650 ti boost is a very low end card and not worth the money. A 7790 will beat a 650 ti and cost less but the 660 is worth the money if you have it.

So 660 or 7790? i'll check other sites but it's just handy if they were in ireland.

tuxy · 07-06-2013 9:42pm

Kremin wrote: »

So 660 or 7790? i'll check other sites but it's just handy if they were in ireland.

Depends on what price you get it for. It's difficult to say which is best unless I know what price you are paying.

If you can get a 660 for €165 like you can from the German site then it's great value. Just don't get the 650 ti boost, it's bad vale for money. 7790 is a better alternative. A 7850 would be a good alternative to the 660 btw so that gives you another card to look for.

If you buy from an Irish site you will still have to transfer funds and it will still be delivered by courier. If you order outside of Ireland you will pay less and the only down side is you may have to wait 1 or 2 days extra to receive the items.

Kremin · 07-06-2013 9:52pm

tuxy wrote: »

Depends on what price you get it for. It's difficult to say which is best unless I know what price you are paying.

If you can get a 660 for €165 like you can from the German site then it's great value. Just don't get the 650 ti boost, it's bad vale for money. 7790 is a better alternative. A 7850 would be a good alternative to the 660 btw so that gives you another card to look for.

If you buy from an Irish site you will still have to transfer funds and it will still be delivered by courier. If you order outside of Ireland you will pay less and the only down side is you may have to wait 1 or 2 days extra to receive the items.

How does this look.

is there anything i need ot be adding to this?

tuxy · 07-06-2013 9:58pm

That looks good but special item on the motherboard means it's an item that has been returned and not brand new. I would pay the little bit extra and get it new.

I would also get the AMD FX-6300 Prozessor over the 4100, it's not much extra and worth it for the extra performance.

BTW sites lite pixmania.ie and others with .ie at the end are often not Irish companies and ship from outside Ireland anyway.

Kremin · 07-06-2013 10:05pm

tuxy wrote: »

That looks good but special item on the motherboard means it's an item that has been returned and not brand new. I would pay the little bit extra and get it new.

I would also get the AMD FX-6300 Prozessor over the 4100, it's not much extra and worth it for the extra performance.

BTW sites lite pixmania.ie and others with .ie at the end are often not Irish companies and ship from outside Ireland anyway.

How's that? Do I need fans or anything else or should it be all good?

tuxy · 07-06-2013 10:13pm

Looks really good to me, you could get the asrock 970 pro 3 over the extreme 3
The extreme 3 just has an esata port which I doubt you will use
That saves €10

You could get this
http://www.hardwareversand.de/400+-+500+Watts/74174/be+quiet%21+SYSTEM+POWER+7+500W.article
Over the corsair 500w and save another €7. The be quiet is even more power efficient.

These are only small things and if you don't want to change and like the parts you have picked already it's no big deal
Either way you are getting a great pc for your budget

Also if you don't know how to do the bank transfer to hardwareversand just ask and I can help you out.

Kremin · 07-06-2013 10:21pm

tuxy wrote: »

Looks really good to me, you could get the asrock 970 pro 3 over the extreme 3
The extreme 3 just has an esata port which I doubt you will use
That saves €10

You could get this
http://www.hardwareversand.de/400+-+500+Watts/74174/be+quiet%21+SYSTEM+POWER+7+500W.article
Over the corsair 500w and save another €7. The be quiet is even more power efficient.

These are only small things and if you don't want to change and like the parts you have picked already it's no big deal
Either way you are getting a great pc for your budget

You think I'll need any coolers or fans on top of the current ones? Not gonna rush into any of this gonna keep it all and keep researching to make sure I get the most efficient pc I can.

tuxy · 07-06-2013 10:29pm

The case comes with 2 fans so no problem there.

You will only need extra cooling if you plan to overclock.
This cpu cooler would allow overclocking

http://www.hardwareversand.de/Intel+AMD/59387/Cooler+Master+Hyper+212+EVO++-+Intel+AMD.article

Kremin · 07-06-2013 11:20pm

tuxy wrote: »

The case comes with 2 fans so no problem there.

You will only need extra cooling if you plan to overclock.
This cpu cooler would allow overclocking

http://www.hardwareversand.de/Intel+AMD/59387/Cooler+Master+Hyper+212+EVO++-+Intel+AMD.article

I don't know how nor do I want to overclock if I don't have to. Do you think I'll have to?

tuxy · 07-06-2013 11:50pm

No you wont have to, that system will play all modern games just fine with out an overclock. Some people just like to do it to squeeze some extra performance out of a system. If you would not be comfortable doing it it's not a problem

Kremin · 08-06-2013 12:32am

tuxy wrote: »

No you wont have to, that system will play all modern games just fine with out an overclock. Some people just like to do it to squeeze some extra performance out of a system. If you would not be comfortable doing it it's not a problem

Quality + Performance is less important to me than Gameplay.

I don't think I'll overclokc the chance of breaking the cpu or whatever you overclock isn't worth it.

Gumbi · 08-06-2013 8:21am

Kremin wrote: »

Quality + Performance is less important to me than Gameplay. I don't think I'll overclokc the chance of breaking the cpu or whatever you overclock isn't worth it.

Actually it is, because the chance of breaking th CPU is extra rly low, and the benefits are very good.

You basically have to go out of your way to achieve damaging your chip.

BloodBath · 08-06-2013 11:35am

Aye over volting your chip is the only way you can damage it really. Take your time with it anyway, read a few guides. You can always do it in the future.

Monotype · 08-06-2013 9:23pm

That's an older hard drive. Either of these are better.
http://www.hardwareversand.de/7200+RPM/53882/Seagate+Barracuda+7200+1000GB%2C+SATA+6Gb+s.article
http://www.hardwareversand.de/7200+RPM/62133/WD+Caviar+Blue+1TB+6Gb's.article

Secondly, homeplugs are a better option than wireless if you can use them.

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