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Religion vs science essay for religion exam

  • 06-06-2013 1:07am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11


    Could anyone give me advice on how and what to put in a religion vs science essay? help thanks xxx


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭doyle97


    You mostly get marks in religion for key concepts so remember to put loads of them into your essay! Im not too sure about religion and science but something like scirnce is the how and religion is the why, religious influence on a persons search for meaning life and how science shapes this view etc. etc. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Pwee2029


    Tammyxxx wrote: »
    Could anyone give me advice on how and what to put in a religion vs science essay? help thanks xxx

    Well that section isn't that long so to answer that question and get full marks on it, know that section in detail


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭onlinenerd


    I dint know you had to do a science essay?????????????????????????????????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Cr4pSnip3r


    onlinenerd wrote: »
    I dint know you had to do a science essay?????????????????????????????????

    You don't, you have an option of doing other essays.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭DublinArnie


    I always go for the moral essay ... I did it for my mocks and got like 58/70. It requires no study and a lot of common sense :p.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭dalta5billion


    doyle97 wrote: »
    You mostly get marks in religion for key concepts so remember to put loads of them into your essay! Im not too sure about religion and science but something like scirnce is the how and religion is the why, religious influence on a persons search for meaning life and how science shapes this view etc. etc. :P

    Be extremely careful about how you word this, a friend and I found out the hard way last year.

    Stick to your religion book's (often quite incorrect) line, and you will be fine, although it may be difficult for you to put down things that are incorrect about science.

    For example, one religion book I know of basically says that the complexity of the human eye is proof of creationism (God made humans, and humans are special). Now, you may think that that is flimsy logic based on your own scientific readings, but this is the crap it would appear the religion examiner gobbles up.

    When in Rome, do as the Romans do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,428 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Be extremely careful about how you word this, a friend and I found out the hard way last year.

    Stick to your religion book's (often quite incorrect) line, and you will be fine, although it may be difficult for you to put down things that are incorrect about science.

    For example, one religion book I know of basically says that the complexity of the human eye is proof of creationism (God made humans, and humans are special). Now, you may think that that is flimsy logic based on your own scientific readings, but this is the crap it would appear the religion examiner gobbles up.

    When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

    When the roman is talking nonsense though, kick Caesar in the nuts. I'm waaaaay past junior cert but, seriously? There's a book on the curriculum peddling that nonsense? FFS.

    Answer to get your marks girls and boys, but if you know something to be ballcocks, leave a note that isn't part of the answer, distancing yourself from the ballcocks. You won't be docked marks, but you will make your point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 Lulub75


    I heard if u write God for every question u get it rite is this true !!! P.S I dot do religion as a exam subject :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭dalta5billion


    endacl wrote: »
    When the roman is talking nonsense though, kick Caesar in the nuts. I'm waaaaay past junior cert but, seriously? There's a book on the curriculum peddling that nonsense? FFS.

    Answer to get your marks girls and boys, but if you know something to be ballcocks, leave a note that isn't part of the answer, distancing yourself from the ballcocks. You won't be docked marks, but you will make your point.

    Or use the highly cryptic "SOOOMMMEEE PEOPPPLLEEE SAYYYYYY HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE". Although being balanced doesn't seem to be rewarded in that question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭MmmPancakes


    doyle97 wrote: »
    You mostly get marks in religion for key concepts so remember to put loads of them into your essay! Im not too sure about religion and science but something like scirnce is the how and religion is the why, religious influence on a persons search for meaning life and how science shapes this view etc. etc. :P

    Even though that's on the course, it's completely wrong. I won't get in religious arguments but I when I did the essay on the creation in the papers I pretty much said why religion can't be true lol

    #atheism


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭dalta5billion


    Even though that's on the course, it's completely wrong. I won't get in religious arguments but I when I did the essay on the creation in the papers I pretty much said why religion can't be true lol

    #atheism

    Which is what I and another did, and we both got lower than expected grades. Just trying to help out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭MmmPancakes


    Which is what I and another did, and we both got lower than expected grades. Just trying to help out.

    Well after checking my essay with the other students, mine was technically 'better' than theirs way, this is why religion shouldn't be compulsory. It shouldn't be compulsory to write down what you don't believe in. Good on you for staying dignified :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Cr4pSnip3r


    Well after checking my essay with the other students, mine was technically 'better' than theirs way, this is why religion shouldn't be compulsory. It shouldn't be compulsory to write down what you don't believe in. Good on you for staying dignified :P

    I don't have any problem lying in an exam to get an A. It's not like it's the exam people see, in the end it's the grade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭Jack_OLantern


    Which is what I and another did, and we both got lower than expected grades. Just trying to help out.

    I think it really depends on the examiner. You could get an atheist or a nun, both with different opinions as to how the answer should be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭A97


    In that essay, I just outline what science teaches about creation, what religion teaches about creation and then the conflict between the two. (Galileo for example) Also talk about the similarities and differences between the two and how the two can work together.

    There's no need to reference your faith in the exam. As far as I'm concerned, when I answer the Christianity question, all of that happened. The same applies to the world religion question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭doyle97


    Even though that's on the course, it's completely wrong. I won't get in religious arguments but I when I did the essay on the creation in the papers I pretty much said why religion can't be true lol

    #atheism

    for the pres the essay was something like things that influence a young persons moral vision so my sister wrote that friends and family influence a persons moral vision but then wrote a whole page on how religion and the catholic church in particular does not as the catholic church is corrupt and hypocritical as they say one thing and preach another haha...I'm pretty sure she got a good two thirds of the marks :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Monaghan hardy lawd


    Science is my thing, I got an A in the pres/mocks/whatevers I subscribe to science magazines and i am an avid astronomer, I will avoid that question all together because religion examiners are blind to the facts. I have no problem writinjg down what religion says and then what science says but I will be biased and will refer to the words 'myth of creation' several times. But for all those who actually give a s@@t use ''the theory of intelligent design'' instead of 'creation', it sounds better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭dalta5billion


    I think it really depends on the examiner. Yourather get an atheist or a nun, both with different opinions as to how the answer should be.

    I don't know any atheist religion teachers... (I presume the examiner has to have some degree or qualification in Religion?). I would guess that nearly all examiners are religious.

    Not suggesting that they can't be impartial and unbiased, but based on the religion books I've read, there seems to be a skewed version of reality there.

    The religion book states, as facts:

    Science and religion can co-exist - if you've ever heard of the scientific method, you might disagree ;)

    Human beings are special - not just according to religion, but as fact.

    Religion explains how, Science explains why - that's a personal belief thing, rather than a fixed, universal explanation.


    I'm completely biased on this issue BTW, so please lookup the (ironically) vague marking scheme for this type of question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Monaghan hardy lawd


    please lookup the (ironically) vague marking scheme for this type of question
    Science and religion offer two very different accounts of how the world began.
    Discuss the evidence for this statement making reference to both the scientific and
    the religious views of creation.


    An excellent answer will show an ability to identify the points of conflict and points of
    contact between the scientific and religious views of creation by examining and drawing
    accurate conclusions on both the scientific and religious views of creation.
    Possible Points
    Religious views of creation -
    • Buddhism e.g. creation stories in some Buddhist traditions, creation is considered as an
    endless cycle of becoming; nature is both friend and teacher and should be treated
    accordingly etc.
    • Christianity & Judaism e.g. Genesis makes the points that God is responsible for the
    creation of the world and the creation of humankind; People have a special
    responsibility to care for the earth etc.
    • Hinduism e.g. Hindu creation stories suggest many sources of creation but the origin
    and ultimate source of creation is Brahman; Creation is sustained by Brahman and
    therefore people have to treat all of creation with reverence etc.
    • Islam e.g. the story of creation in the Qur’an/Koran state that Allah is the source of
    creation and that creation is good and holy; People have a special responsibility to care
    for creation etc.
    Scientific views of creation -
    • Big Bang Theory e.g.The earth was made over a period of time after an explosion in
    space caused gas and dust to form into our galaxy etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭dalta5billion


    An excellent answer will show an ability to identify the points of conflict and points of
    contact between the scientific and religious views of creation by examining and drawing
    accurate conclusions on both the scientific and religious views of creation.

    "Accurate conclusions" is highly relative to an examiner.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Monaghan hardy lawd


    Would an 'active conclusion' be, for example...
    SAMPLE ANSWER1) Charles Darwin thought that Humans evolved from animals. He said that animals and people alike would evolve (adapt) to their environment. He put forward these ideas in his books 'On the origin of species' and 'the evolution of man'. At this time most people believed that God created each human individually. Darwin went against these people's beliefs. Now many people have learnt that the book of Genesis was just something Jesus said to keep the Saddi's and the pharri's of his back. In 1996 Pope John 'goodladhimself' Paul reckoned that Darwin was right and we all owe him a pint.
    SAMPLE ANSWER2) God did it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 topbloke


    Just contrast the views of science and religion against each other... religion claims some sort of anthropomorphic being known as God created humans for a purpose while science claims human developed gradually from the most basic of life forms over millions of years by chance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭dalta5billion


    Would an 'active conclusion' be, for example...
    SAMPLE ANSWER1) Charles Darwin thought that Humans evolved from animals. He said that animals and people alike would evolve (adapt) to their environment. He put forward these ideas in his books 'On the origin of species' and 'the evolution of man'. At this time most people believed that God created each human individually. Darwin went against these people's beliefs. Now many people have learnt that the book of Genesis was just something Jesus said to keep the Saddi's and the pharri's of his back. In 1996 Pope John 'goodladhimself' Paul reckoned that Darwin was right and we all owe him a pint.
    SAMPLE ANSWER2) God did it!

    Ha! Yeah.

    I'm sure if you keep a level head and don't actively mock religion, either by uncomfortable implication or direct disproof, you'll do fine.

    (By the way, Jesus would've been reading Genesis as a wee babby, so no lol. On a separate note, I've actually read more of the Bible than my super-religious friends, it's odd! I'd actually recommend you read a good amount before becoming a staunch atheist, never underestimate the comfort of having faith. It can get people through very difficult times in their lives. And I would suppose that's why it hurts people so much to have their faith challenged.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭MmmPancakes


    Ha! Yeah.

    I'm sure if you keep a level head and don't actively mock religion, either by uncomfortable implication or direct disproof, you'll do fine.

    (By the way, Jesus would've been reading Genesis as a wee babby, so no lol. On a separate note, I've actually read more of the Bible than my super-religious friends, it's odd! I'd actually recommend you read a good amount before becoming a staunch atheist, never underestimate the comfort of having faith. It can get people through very difficult times in their lives. And I would suppose that's why it hurts people so much to have their faith challenged.)

    I've read a good bit of it and it features disturbing things, it clearly states to stone someone if they work on the sabbath. Oh, I guess everyone will just say they didn't know better then :rolleyes:

    But yeah religion is an awful subject imo, It's not fair how it's compulsory, I'd rather learn about something that can be proven. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭dalta5billion


    I've read a good bit of it and it features disturbing things, it clearly states to stone someone if they work on the sabbath. Oh, I guess everyone will just say they didn't know better then :rolleyes:

    But yeah religion is an awful subject imo, It's not fair how it's compulsory, I'd rather learn about something that can be proven. ;)

    But that's not the important bit! Ignore all those stoning references, the important bit is the one line where it says homosexuality is wrong!

    The priest the other day was saying that people shouldn't be afraid to say they are religious for fear of being thought of as a bigot.

    Says the guy in the exclusively male club.

    [/atheist rant]

    I don't really mind Religion, just don't shove it down my children's throats.

    Seriously, hopefully there's an Educate Together secondary school by the time I'm allowed (ha!) have kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 Monaghan hardy lawd


    I know that we live in a country that is like 99% catholic but has anyone else noticed how the book is seriously Christianity orientated. (I take everyone has that giant green book or is there other books as well)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭doyle97


    I know that we live in a country that is like 99% catholic but has anyone else noticed how the book is seriously Christianity orientated. (I take everyone has that giant green book or is there other books as well)

    no we have the black book religion for living, but yeah other than the 111 pages on the foundations of the other world religions, the other 421 pages are generally directed at christianity


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