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Replace Shower Head with Rigid Riser

  • 05-06-2013 11:04PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14


    Hi All,

    We are doing up an ensuite bathroom and would like to have rigid riser shower head with a detachable hand held shower head like this one. It would be replacing a shower head that hung from a bar and was connected to the mixer (in the picture below) with a hose.

    mjd4dm3

    Can I just replace the connector at the end of the pipe with a different shower supply elbow (or possibly just rotate it 180 degrees) and attach the pole of the new shower head to that? Are there any issues with doing that? I assume all mixers are more or less the same so it doesn't matter what is attached to them?

    Thanks,
    stefg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 stefg


    I just got a reply the shower manufacturer who told me I won't find a suitable supply elbow so I'll have to look at other options.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Can I ask this.....


    Where down the water enter this showerkit in the link?

    http://www.tapoutlet.co.uk/telescopic-kit-1.html


    Does the water enter from the bottom of the unit,or does it enter closer up to the top,where that circular cap is??


    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 stefg


    It enters at the bottom. It is designed for an external bar type mixer as shown here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    stefg wrote: »
    It enters at the bottom. It is designed for an external bar type mixer as shown here.


    Shame....Im looking for a shower kit like that,but to replace a single large rainfall shower head that come out off the the wall high up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 stefg


    Is it the second handheld shower head that you are looking for? If so, unfortunately I haven't seen any of those with with the supply pipe / elbow up high. I think (but I'm no expert) that you would have have to go behind the plasterboard and change the supply point from the mixer... which is not ideal..


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    stefg wrote: »
    Is it the second handheld shower head that you are looking for? If so, unfortunately I haven't seen any of those with with the supply pipe / elbow up high. I think (but I'm no expert) that you would have have to go behind the plasterboard and change the supply point from the mixer... which is not ideal..


    Yeah,thats it..a 2nd hand held shower head would be ideal.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 756 ✭✭✭whowantstwoknow


    Not sure what part of the country you are & all the above means nothing to me, but kieran from chruchtown stores (http://www.yelp.ie/biz/churchtown-stores-dublin) has an unbounded wealth of knowledge and may be able to source what you are looking for...

    W.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    I hope your shower is pumped to 3 bar and your cylinder has sufficient capacity of water for this type of shower.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,857 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    I hope your shower is pumped to 3 bar and your cylinder has sufficient capacity of water for this type of shower.


    Who....OP or myself??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 stefg


    I hope your shower is pumped to 3 bar and your cylinder has sufficient capacity of water for this type of shower.

    Hi Joey,

    I have decided to go with this one. It says minimum of 1 bar and we have a 1.5 bar negative head pump, is that not going to be sufficient?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭LIFFY FISHING


    The most you are going to get with a 1.5bar pump with that type of shower is reasonably wet.
    Why do people constantly think a larger head gives a better shower? The ONLY thing that will give you a better shower is a pump not a shower head, before you go out and spend money on a shower valve, which usually is only designed for a pressurised system, ask for tge flow curve of the valve, if the supplier cant give you thst than no matter how sexy it looks or how expensive it is IT IS CRAP at a high mark up, lots of brassware comes from the east and the only think good about it is the shops mark up.
    The flow curve will tell you what the flow rates will be at what pressure, btw when a shower valve says minimum flow pressure required is 1.5 bar they mean thats what is needed to make it work and NOT to perform to any great standard.
    A 3 bar pump means you will now require a bigger cold water storage capacity and a bigger hot water cylinder, you would never believe the amount of people who bitch about the "really expensive"shower they instslled that doesnt work ..... it wont unless you have enough hot and cold water to supply it, also keep in mind if you are pumping 3 bar pressure out of your cylinder and cold water tank, do you have the sufficent mains water pressure to replenish it, and finally a 3 bar pump ? With knob heads like big Phil and the old Green three hugers legacy of water meters... mmmm. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 stefg


    The most you are going to get with a 1.5bar pump with that type of shower is reasonably wet.
    Why do people constantly think a larger head gives a better shower? The ONLY thing that will give you a better shower is a pump not a shower head, before you go out and spend money on a shower valve, which usually is only designed for a pressurised system, ask for tge flow curve of the valve, if the supplier cant give you thst than no matter how sexy it looks or how expensive it is IT IS CRAP at a high mark up, lots of brassware comes from the east and the only think good about it is the shops mark up.
    The flow curve will tell you what the flow rates will be at what pressure, btw when a shower valve says minimum flow pressure required is 1.5 bar they mean thats what is needed to make it work and NOT to perform to any great standard.
    A 3 bar pump means you will now require a bigger cold water storage capacity and a bigger hot water cylinder, you would never believe the amount of people who bitch about the "really expensive"shower they instslled that doesnt work ..... it wont unless you have enough hot and cold water to supply it, also keep in mind if you are pumping 3 bar pressure out of your cylinder and cold water tank, do you have the sufficent mains water pressure to replenish it, and finally a 3 bar pump ? With knob heads like big Phil and the old Green three hugers legacy of water meters... mmmm. :)

    The shower has been installed for a few months now and works great with the 1.5 bar pump. No problems with pressure at all, the shower is great. The large head gives a ready steady and comfortable flow and the small hand held head gives a very powerful flow so all good. Even when the second shower is running the pressure is fine, the pressure is slightly reduced when both are running but it's still very effective.

    I think your comments were overly negative and I'm glad I ignored them, very happy with the new shower :)


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