Santambrogio tests positive for EPO

dastardly00

Mauro Santambrogio has tested positive for EPO.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/22754082

He's 28. I hope t'fcuk he gets a lifetime ban.... He probably won't though.

TheBlaaMan

Yeah, I read it earlier and it was all over Twitter today. No surprises really given the innuendo that surrounded him at the time of the Giro. Scinto says its the end of the team ........

Craig06

Even if he doesn't get a life ban, his career is well and truly over. Nobody will have him as he was implicated in the lampre fiasco a few years ago.

Leroy42

has he tested postive previously? otherwise I dont see the point in calling for a lifetime ban as it isn't in the rules.

Good to see that they are catching some, must be tempting to brush these under the carpet and pretend everything is ok after LA.

Cant see many other sports taking this approach, just look at the recent example of VJ Singh in golf and the sh1tstorm that hit horse racing but seems to have gone relatively quiet

Lumen

"winning his first Grand Tour stage at age 28 on stage 14 of the Giro d'Italia in Bardonecchia on May 18...Santabrogio's positive came from May 4, on the opening stage of the Giro, but was only announced today....According to the UCI the EPO test was done at the Rome anti-doping laboratory."

I wonder when the positive test result was first known?

RobFowl

Lumen wrote: »

"winning his first Grand Tour stage at age 28 on stage 14 of the Giro d'Italia in Bardonecchia on May 18...Santabrogio's positive came from May 4, on the opening stage of the Giro, but was only announced today....According to the UCI the EPO test was done at the Rome anti-doping laboratory."

I wonder when the positive test result was first known?

They are usually available withing 1-2 weeks but sometimes needs repeated rechecking to ensure validity. From such an early stage you would have expected it to have been announced during the race but there are often valid reasons why this can't happen so wouldn't get Mulder and Scully onto it yet...

12 sprocket

Leroy42 wrote: »

has he tested postive previously? otherwise I dont see the point in calling for a lifetime ban as it isn't in the rules.

Good to see that they are catching some, must be tempting to brush these under the carpet and pretend everything is ok after LA.

Cant see many other sports taking this approach, just look at the recent example of VJ Singh in golf and the sh1tstorm that hit horse racing but seems to have gone relatively quiet

Well done Leroy, at least someone is giving some credit to Cycling and UCI for catching the dopers... And it seems that they are catching them by targeting riders based on their profiles..

Harrybelafonte

12 sprocket wrote: »

Well done Leroy, at least someone is giving some credit to Cycling and UCI for catching the dopers... And it seems that they are catching them by targeting riders based on their profiles..

Do you have some kind of alert set up for anything that mentions doping or the UCI?

In fact, Vaughters commented in an interview that riders are bringing certain suspicious performances to the attention of the authorities behind the scenes.

Dr. Bre

after seen santambrogio performance in the tirreno race im not surprised by this news. he was climbing with the best and i was thinking wheres this guy come from!

Zyzz

Can't wait to see who is caught next :rolleyes:

Inquitus

Zyzz wrote: »

Can't wait to see who is caught next :rolleyes:

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corny

12 sprocket wrote: »

Well done Leroy, at least someone is giving some credit to Cycling and UCI for catching the dopers... And it seems that they are catching them by targeting riders based on their profiles..

Catching some of the dopers. With what you know just imagine how many they'd catch if they actually did want to clean up cycling. Scary thought. If you expand the market you've nothing to worry about. Anyway its safe to pick out Santo and Di Luca because they were just too obvious.

12 sprocket

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

Do you have some kind of alert set up for anything that mentions doping or the UCI?

In fact, Vaughters commented in an interview that riders are bringing certain suspicious performances to the attention of the authorities behind the scenes.

And who are the authorities Harry? in regard to your question about some kind of alert, not particularly but I do like to see a bit of balance and fairness.

Raam

I wonder what kind of bullshít excuse the Vini Fantini managers will come out with this time.

TinyExplosions

Raam wrote: »

I wonder what kind of bullshít excuse the Vini Fantini managers will come out with this time.

They'll wheel out Cipo who'll say "these are not the 'roids you are looking for" and everything will be grand

Inquitus

"I can only say that I am in disbelief about what has happened and will request the counter analysis as soon as possible," Santambrogio told Ansa.it.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/santambrogio-in-disbelief-over-epo-positive

Raam

Anyone post this yet?
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/philip-gomes/blog/127897/one-step-forward

"We raced this team in Kumano (Japan) just days ago. They managed to talk themselves out of a random test on the last stage. Said they would miss their flights home," Christie-Johnson wrote.

"Eight hours later we had tea with them prior to their departure from Japan. Didn't seem in any rush then.

"Seemed very wrong that the Japan drug testers just took their (Vini Fantini-Selle Italia) rider off the random list for the stage and swapped it to another rider from another team, especially in light of what's just happened."

ednwireland

wonder if there will be a firesale of vini-fantini kit - every cloud etc

elduggo

Lumen wrote: »

"winning his first Grand Tour stage at age 28 on stage 14 of the Giro d'Italia in Bardonecchia on May 18...Santabrogio's positive came from May 4, on the opening stage of the Giro, but was only announced today...."

you never know, he might have been riding clean on May 18

Zyzz

ednwireland wrote: »

wonder if there will be a firesale of vini-fantini kit - every cloud etc

Sign me up, I think it's a great kit!



Does it come with EPO or is that extra?

uphillonly

Being a cycling fan gives the Rocky feeling, blow after blow but we keep getting up to follow it.

Is JV the man telling us to keep the faith. Not sure if this link will show the right photo (Rocky blooded with coach pepping him up):
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rocky&safe=off&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=e9OtUY29IuXD7AaFzoGYBw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1024&bih=672#biv=i%7C2%3Bd%7CX2sCtjDf4N2M3M%3A

RobFowl

Zyzz wrote: »

Sign me up, I think it's a great kit!



Does it come with EPO or is that extra?

It's either sewn into the lining or else available as an extra from a different company with no links whatsoever

MPFG

According to Twitter there are more positives to come ?

maybe down to the new extra sensitive EPO test ...guess the guys at VF didn't read that memo

Zyzz

MPFG wrote: »

According to Twitter there are more positives to come ?

maybe down to the new extra sensitive EPO test ...guess the guys at VF didn't read that memo

Which feed are you following?

MPFG

@TheRaceRadio

Zyzz

MPFG wrote: »

@TheRaceRadio

Cheers bro

First tweet I see says it's a russian rider, have a feeling in my gut who it is but I won't say until it is released! :cool:

MPFG

Zyzz wrote: »

Cheers bro

First tweet I see says it's a russian rider, have a feeling in my gut who it is but I won't say until it is released! :cool:

Good job too or Beasty will be on your trail

Think this test will be the undoing of many who are micro dosing with EPO and not a day too soon

corny

MPFG wrote: »

Good job too or Beasty will be on your trail

Think this test will be the undoing of many who are micro dosing with EPO and not a day too soon

They'll adapt.

Zyzz

corny wrote: »

They'll adapt.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13859/New-EPO-test-could-help-stamp-out-microdosing.aspx

MPFG

corny wrote: »

They'll adapt.

Maybe ...but its bound to put the wind up a few in the meantime...wonder who will go missing or fall off the back of the peloton now

Dr. Bre

hope he doesnt get of cos i reckon hes guilty.. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-santambrogio-could-be-cleared-of-doping

dastardly00

Dr. Bre wrote: »

hope he doesnt get of cos i reckon hes guilty.. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-santambrogio-could-be-cleared-of-doping

Yeah, it'll be a disgrace if he gets cleared. Looking at his results this year compared to every other year of his career it's plainly obvious that he was on the juice. The only race that he seems to be legitimately good at is the Giro di Lombardia.

BofaDeezNuhtz

12 sprocket wrote: »

Well done Leroy, at least someone is giving some credit to Cycling and UCI for catching the dopers... And it seems that they are catching them by targeting riders based on their profiles..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJQ3TM-p2QI

Brian?

dastardly00 wrote: »

Yeah, it'll be a disgrace if he gets cleared. Looking at his results this year compared to every other year of his career it's plainly obvious that he was on the juice. The only race that he seems to be legitimately good at is the Giro di Lombardia.

Why a disgrace? Everyone deserved due process. If they haven't tested his B sample yet there's clearly more to this than we know about.

Personally I don't think anything souls ever be announced until after the B sample is tested, if the rider chooses that.

We all want to get rid of doping but you can't start a witch hunt.

12 sprocket

Dr. Bre wrote: »

hope he doesnt get of cos i reckon hes guilty.. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-santambrogio-could-be-cleared-of-doping[/QUOTE]

What about this principle of law that is often espoused and has been for hundreds of year, maybe even thousands. Lets all go out and look for witches, I'm sure if we come up with a few signs we should have no bother drowning a few.

Sir John Fortescue's De Laudibus Legum Angliae (c. 1470) states that "one would much rather that twenty guilty persons should escape the punishment of death, than that one innocent person should be condemned and suffer capitally." Similarly, on 3 October 1692, while decrying the Salem witch trials, Increase Mather adapted Fortescue's statement and wrote, "It were better that Ten Suspected Witches should escape, than that the Innocent Person should be Condemned."

happytramp

12 sprocket wrote: »

Dr. Bre wrote: »

hope he doesnt get of cos i reckon hes guilty.. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-santambrogio-could-be-cleared-of-doping[/QUOTE]

What about this principle of law that is often espoused and has been for hundreds of year, maybe even thousands. Lets all go out and look for witches, I'm sure if we come up with a few signs we should have no bother drowning a few.

Sir John Fortescue's De Laudibus Legum Angliae (c. 1470) states that "one would much rather that twenty guilty persons should escape the punishment of death, than that one innocent person should be condemned and suffer capitally." Similarly, on 3 October 1692, while decrying the Salem witch trials, Increase Mather adapted Fortescue's statement and wrote, "It were better that Ten Suspected Witches should escape, than that the Innocent Person should be Condemned."

Verbose but true.