Picked out PC parts, everything OK?

Cheeseofdeath

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/wishlist/1ESXSH6VD2IEB/ref=topnav_lists_1

Just need to know is everything is OK and compatible.

Also, would this motherboard do the job better than the Sabertooth Z77? and which would be better, the ASUS 660ti or the MSI 660ti?

tuxy

We can't see your amazon basket

BloodBath

Overpriced and over spec for gaming. What is the rig being used for?

You could build a way better rig for that money.

Gumbi

Cheeseofdeath wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/registry/wishlist/1ESXSH6VD2IEB/ref=topnav_lists_1

Just need to know is everything is OK and compatible.

Also, would this motherboard do the job better than the Sabertooth Z77? and which would be better, the ASUS 660ti or the MSI 660ti?

How can we say if it's OK without context?

What are your needs, what will the PC be used for? Your budget? Etc etc

Cheeseofdeath

BloodBath wrote: »

Overpriced and over spec for gaming. What is the rig being used for?

Gaming and I want it to be future proof.

BloodBath

Fill out the question form in the sticky and we could show you what you could get for that money.

Cheeseofdeath

I don't want people to tell me what I should get, I already know what I'm getting I just want to know if everything will work with eachother. Can someone please answer my question about the motherboard and the GPU?

tuxy

Cheeseofdeath wrote: »

Gaming and I want it to be future proof.

You can't future proof you can just buy the best value for your budget at the time of purchase.

BloodBath

I don't want people to tell me what I should get, I already know what I'm getting I just want to know if everything will work with eachother. Can someone please answer my question about the motherboard and the GPU?

Well based on what you picked you should really take some advice as you are wasting money and clearly don't know what you are doing.

tuxy

Cheeseofdeath wrote: »

Can someone please answer my question about the motherboard and the GPU?

Sure, the z77 motherboards are replaced by the z87. You need the recently released haswell CPUs for these newer boards. The motherboards you are looking at are already outdated.

You will see very little difference between Asus and MSI graphics cards. Depending on the model one may have a slightly better cooler.

Cheeseofdeath

BloodBath wrote: »

Well based on what you picked you should really take some advice as you are wasting money and clearly don't know what you are doing.

And the point of this thread is to find out what I should change, I'm fine with the GPU and processor but if I can save money on anything else I'd be glad to hear about it.

BloodBath

A far superior build for the same money. You can use xbox or ps3 pads with pc's as well if you have any. They are better controllers than anything logitech has anyway.

This is still overkill for gaming. You could change to a 4670k and 8gb of ram and lose no performance.

Maybe get the 250gb ssd instead.


Item|Price
Intel Core i7-4770K Box, LGA1150|€319.00
16GB-Kit G.Skill Sniper PC3-14900U CL9-10-9-28|€118.08
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming, ATX, Sockel 1150|€134.99
Samsung SSD 840 120GB SATA 6Gb/s|€81.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200 2000GB, SATA 6Gb/s|€80.84
Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A (BW)|€40.48
Nanoxia Deep Silence One Dark Anthracite, ATX, ohne Netzteil|€94.35
be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 700W|€80.13
2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Windforce 2X, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€344.38
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch|€85.04
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€1398.27

And the point of this thread is to find out what I should change, I'm fine with the GPU and processor but if I can save money on anything else I'd be glad to hear about it.

Can't tell you that without the answers to the questions which is why I asked in the first place.

Gumbi

As Bloodbath said it doesn't particularly sound like you know what you're doing. You hae a non-overclockable CPU chosen with an OC-able motherboard. You chose a socket which has reached the end of its run as Tuxt said. You are getting 16GB of RAM which you more than likely DO NOT need by any means (literally twice as much as you need).

We could go on.

Cheeseofdeath

BloodBath wrote: »

A far superior build for the same money. You can use xbox or ps3 pads with pc's as well if you have any. They are better controllers than anything logitech has anyway.

This is still overkill for gaming. You could change to a 4670k and 8gb of ram and lose no performance.

Maybe get the 250gb ssd instead.


Item|Price
Intel Core i7-4770K Box, LGA1150|€319.00
16GB-Kit G.Skill Sniper PC3-14900U CL9-10-9-28|€118.08
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming, ATX, Sockel 1150|€134.99
Samsung SSD 840 120GB SATA 6Gb/s|€81.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200 2000GB, SATA 6Gb/s|€80.84
Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A (BW)|€40.48
Nanoxia Deep Silence One Dark Anthracite, ATX, ohne Netzteil|€94.35
be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 700W|€80.13
2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Windforce 2X, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€344.38
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch|€85.04
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€1398.27

Thanks man that's pretty cool.

Will two 660's be necessary? I'd be fine with one 660ti and are you recommending I use that case?

Also I don't have much of an understanding about PSU's, and from I see the 660's will take up 450w each and the PSU is 700w?

Gumbi

Oh, an just to comment on Bloodbath's build. You have the newer version if the i7 you chose. AND it's overclockable. So that's a 25% performance increase you can handily attain (because BB included a nice heatsink - which by the way will have a much quieter fan than you get with the i7 by default - and an OCable motherboard).

BB included TWO 660s, which by themselves aren't too far behind 660tis. So you have 1 and a half times + graphics performance right there.

Better power supply; SSD too (far superior perf to a hard disk load OS and a few progs and your fave games on it and enjoy the awesomeness).

It's literally better in every way.

And just to respond to your comment above - you need to answer the basic qs for us to suggest an appropriate build. BBs build may well be overkill. What's your budget, needs, PC's function etc etc?

BloodBath

No problem.

Pick whatever case you want. i just copied that build from one I did earlier for someone else.

As said already 8gb is more than enough for gaming. there is nothing using over 4gb at the moment. Even with multiple programs open, the browser with videos and a game you still won't go near 8gb of usage.

A 4670k will perform just the same as the 4770k in games as well. No games are making use of more than 4 cores yet and I don't know if hyper threading will give much more performance when they do as it's still only 4 cores.

Two 660's offer great value atm imo. It's around gtx 780 performance for nearly half the price. There are some latency spikes with some games but for the most part it's perfect.

Gumbi

700w is enough btw. Quality > quantity.

BloodBath

660's use very little power. The rig would use 400w max. Maybe draw 450w from the wall.

tuxy

Gumbi wrote: »

700w is enough btw. Quality > quantity.

Is there much difference between the two PSUs?
It's the same brand. The one the OP picked was modular with slightly higher watts. I can't imagine there is much difference between them. Of course the modular more is more expensive.

BloodBath

No difference if he prefers it and wants modular. I would get something at least silver rated though. Gold or plat would be great but expensive.

This build would be more suited to you. Do you have any xbox360 or ps3 pads? Change the case if you don't like it. Just make sure you have enough fans for it especially for sli. I would get a silenced case like this though and add more fans to it.

What about a keyboard/mouse, wireless card, monitor?

Item|Price
Intel Core i5-4670K Box, LGA1150|€222.00
8GB-Kit G.Skill Sniper PC3-14900U CL9-10-9-28|€61.70
MSI Z87-G45 Gaming, ATX, Sockel 1150|€134.99
Samsung SSD 840 250GB SATA 6Gb/s|€139.99
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s|€57.74
Thermalright HR-02 Macho Rev.A (BW)|€40.48
be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 700W|€80.13
2 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Windforce 2X, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€344.38
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SB-Version Englisch|€85.04
Nanoxia Deep Silence One Dark Anthracite, ATX, ohne Netzteil|€94.35
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€1279.79

Gumbi

tuxy wrote: »

Is there much difference between the two PSUs?
It's the same brand. The one the OP picked was modular with slightly higher watts. I can't imagine there is much difference between them. Of course the modular more is more expensive.

I was referring to the OP's comment with regard to whether 700 would be enough for 2 660s, that's all

Cheeseofdeath

Also need a wireless card and wireless keyboard, any suggestions for wireless gamepad? Would everything fit nicely in the Zalman Z11 case?

And the CPU cooler I'm looking at don't list 1150 as compatible, is this a problem?

BloodBath

I wouldn't go wireless keyboard or mouse. It's not worth the hassle.

If you want a really good keyboard and mouse for a relatively cheap price you won't do better than these.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00C67C79C/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d1_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=1G5JNYRBTHHGJ8E38E5A&pf_rd_t=101&pf_

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Driver-Update-Perixx-MX-2000-Programmable/dp/B0083H4NG4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370112896&sr=8-1&keywords=perixx+mx-2000

The Z11 isn't a great case. Considering your budget I would spend more.

This wireless card should do fine.

I would go with a 360 pad myself. You will need the proper xbox wireless adaptor though and maybe a charging kit.

tuxy

For a gamepad get this and use a normal wireless xbox 360 pad with it.

That case will work fine

1155 coolers work with the new 1150 socket.

Gumbi

Cheeseofdeath wrote: »

Also need a wireless card and wireless keyboard, any suggestions for wireless gamepad? Would everything fit nicely in the Zalman Z11 case?

And the CPU cooler I'm looking at don't list 1150 as compatible, is this a problem?

As far as my knowledge goes, the socket mounting holes are identical to those in the 1155 socket, though I could be wrong. The reason it's not listed, though, is because socket 1150 was only released in the past 3 days

Cheeseofdeath

So the 700w PSU will be enough for everything including the two GPU's

tuxy

Cheeseofdeath wrote: »

So the 700w PSU will be enough for everything including the two GPU's

More than enough, it's actually overkill. The GTX 660 cards have surprisingly low power consumption.

Captain Wabbajack

Will this run Doom?

Cheeseofdeath

Do I really need a 4770k? Would a normal 4770 be fine? Is overclocking really necessary?

BloodBath

No you don't. Did you not see the updated post above?

A 4670k would be the better option. Overclocking isn't necessary but you get a lot of extra performance from it and it's safe when done right. You could get that processor to 4.5ghz from it's base 3.4ghz pretty easily. That's at least 4.4ghz of extra processing power.

Gumbi

Cheeseofdeath wrote: »

Do I really need a 4770k? Would a normal 4770 be fine? Is overclocking really necessary?

No. For gaming a 4670 is plenty sufficient. 4770 is unnecessary. An overclocked 4670k will outperform a 4770 when overclocked for less money. (It'll outperform in games anyways).

Overclocking is the most effective way to get value for money.