Golf mk 4 1.4 clutch thrust plate

davycha

Hi folks , my daughters 00 golf mk 4 1.4 has put a hole through the thrust release plate for the clutch . Does anyone here know if these can be purchased seperate as the clutch itself is only about six months old and looks perfect.

I am not sure why this happened but I have heard it is a weak point on these golfs

thanks davycha

Nissan doctor

davycha wrote: »

Hi folks , my daughters 00 golf mk 4 1.4 has put a hole through the thrust release plate for the clutch . Does anyone here know if these can be purchased seperate as the clutch itself is only about six months old and looks perfect.

I am not sure why this happened but I have heard it is a weak point on these golfs

thanks davycha

Most after market clutch kits come with the clutch disk, pressure plate and release bearing as a 3 piece kit. VW will sell you just a pressure plate(I'm guessing that what your talking about) but it will be hard to find one aftermarket.

Having said that, the pressure plate should have been changed with the clutch when done previously as it doesn't make sense, mechanically or financially, to change just the clutch disk so assuming that was done then this should be a warranty issue.

If it wasn't done then I wouldn't be leaving the new clutch disk in there as if something failed in the clutch system it will have done so under high stress so the chances of only the pressure plate being damaged are slim.

davycha

Nissan Doctor ,
thanks for your reply on the clutch , I am pretty sure you are familiar with these clutches . the plate I am referring to does the same job as a release bearing in most cars , It is pushed by a rod which goes through the centre of the spigot shaft . they all seem to wear a hole through the centre of the thrust plate . I think you are right I will have to go for a complete kit , Once is enough to rip it .
I was just wondering was it possible to buy these seperately .

thank for your reply on this

davycha

Avns1s

Is it the clutch release fork sub assy shown in this diagram that's worn through? (Not from a golf but same idea) If it is, it should be available separately from a VW dealer. BTW, it's not part of any standard clutch kit.

Clutch.jpg

George Dalton

The plate is available separately from VW. However it should have been part of the clutch kit that was changed 6 months ago so it is surprising that it has failed again so quickly. Are you sure that the problem doesn't lie elsewhere?

@other posters, the 1.4 clutch kit is different to most other clutch setups in that is is mounted "backwards" The pressure plate bolts onto the crankshaft and has the thrust plate mounted in the middle where it is actuated by a rod through the gearbox input shaft, the disc is then mounted and the flywheel is bolted on over the disc. See the picture below showing pressure plate and the thrust plate which is the source of the OP's problems:

dieselbug

"The plate is available separately from VW. However it should have been part of the clutch kit that was changed 6 months ago so it is surprising that it has failed again so quickly. Are you sure that the problem doesn't lie elsewhere?"

Would it be possible it was adjusted too tight. Was the pedal hard, high or any slipping. Automatic cable adjustment can be a bit tricky on this system if you are not familiar with it. Was the clutch change a diy job, no offence intended.

Stickingspacebardrivingmenuts.

davycha

The plate shown in the photo supplied by George Dalton (thanks George) is exactly what i am looking for . it is good to know it is available from VW.


As to why it wore so quickly i am not sure , clutch is hydraulically operated so no adjustment is needed as far as I know .
One thing maybe one of you could answer is the pushrod which pushes this plate, should the end of this pushrod be flat where it meets the plate , when we changed the clutch the end was kind of round almost pointed , but because we had never seen this type of clutch before we assumed it was ok.

We are thinking now that the pushrod was worn . would it be best to change the pushrod as well as the plate ? , I may go for a new complete clutch again as it is too much ripping to chance the original clutch with a new thrust plate .
i would appreciate your thoughts on this .also is there any make of clutch that you find better than others ?

Thanks lads

davycha

enumbers

What brand of clutch did you fit originally. normally a quality kit like sachs or luk would have come with a new plate.

dieselbug

The end of the rod should be rounded, not flat or pointed. Sachs or valeo would be good makes.

davycha

after checking the pushrod and bearing in mind what was mentioned bu dieselbug , I went to a local scrapyard today and got a rod . on checking both it looks like the rod we used was damaged ,The end was almost pointed like a pencil .
The rod I got at the scrapyard was much flatter and has a little indentation which centres it on the thrust plate . I will get a clutch kit tomorrow at local motor factors and will fit it , thanks for all your help and suggestions , i will report back in the next few days .

davycha

nd

Sorry for bumping a very old thread but Georges picts help explain.

Was driving the a3 the other day and the clutch seemed to give way.

I've taken it apart and the center plate in georges pic has a hole in it. The pushrod seems to have worn a hole in it.The clutch is in good condition.

Would it be a bad idea to just fill in the hole with weld?

davycha

Hi ND ,
You might get away with it if it is welded properly, The weld would also have to be the correct depth.
You can get these plates for a Golf from Main Dealer and they are not too expensive if memory serves me right, not sure if they are available for an A3.

if these are the same setup as the golf there is a bearing which pushes the pin onto the plate, I would check this very carefully as this was the issue with my daughter's car. Also make sure the pin is perfectly straight and rounded at both ends.
If it was me I would replace the plate , bearing and rod. given the amount of ripping involved.

best of luck with it

davycha