I feel my brother needs to go to a boarding school/ bootcamp. Any reccomendations?

showsaf

Deleted. I understand that this wasint the most suitable place to post something releated to this. Thank you, to those who were helpful, anyway.

Red Crow

Yes sending someone in dire need of mental help to boot camp will fix him right up

cant help someone that wont help themselfves

if you send him to boarding school , he just bunk off wont show up for classes and waste your money

Hownowcow

Are you sure you meant to post this in After Hours?

mikemac1

Could he do an apprenticeship and get a trade?

Celly Smunt

A good hiding should sort him out.

Prodigious

My advice would be not to ask on After Hours.

Prodigious

This can only go well.

Mr. CooL ICE

Replace him with a dog. That'll show him.

Plus you gain a dog, so its a win win for everybody

donegal_road

have your parents thought of having him professionally assessed? Sounds a bit my next door neighbour's son, and it turns out he has Aspergers Syndrome.. (not meaning to alarm you)
There is an online Asperger's test here

But dont go by that only, have him see a professional. The army may not the best idea for your brother, he will need to be in an environment which will best suit him.




*I just put a link in to a different Aspergers test site to the first one I posted

Odysseus

How do you either of those options will adress your bothers issues? I would sugest you go back to the professionals rather than a discussion board,

rolliepoley

Read this op it would be a lot more helpful than AH.

http://parentingteens.about.com/od/parentingtroubledteens/a/6-Tips-For-Parenting-Troubled-Teens.htm

kraggy

Whatever about the OP, a year or 2 military or similar service on leaving school would solve a few problems.

Firstly, it would give people a breather and some time to think further about what they'd like to do in college or apprenticeship etc.

Secondly, it might knock some manners into scumbags. At the very least it would keep them off the streets and take away the notion that money for free (dole) is the automatic next step after school.

The cost of funding such a system might be a lot, but I see many other benefits as well as the above.

Jimoslimos

donegal_road wrote: »

have your parents thought of having him professionally assessed? Sounds a bit my next door neighbour's son, and it turns out he has Aspergers Syndrome.. (not meaning to alarm you)
There is an online Asperger's test here

Sounds more like depression, but hey that's not a cool disorder with quirky abilities at maths, etc reported by some.

mikemac1

Hownowcow wrote: »

Are you sure you meant to post this in After Hours?

Prodigious wrote: »

My advice would be not to ask on After Hours.

Prodigious wrote: »

This can only go well.

rolliepoley wrote: »

Read this op it would be a lot more helpful than AH.

Give the forum some credit.

There have been lots of serious threads in here

December2012

Why has your brother not been admitted for psychiatric care if that is the advice of his doctors?

dave1982

I'd love to have had a iphone at 15, I had a Nokia 5110

kowloon

mikemac1 wrote: »

Give the forum some credit.

There have been lots of serious threads in here

The forum does do serious threads, and sometimes they don't get derailed, but this is a very personal thing, I don't think it belongs here. There's a reason mental health professionals don't just get unleashed on patients without years of training.

discus

In the UK the army takes on 16 year olds into Army Foundation College combines some education with basic training, and takes place over the course of a year (after which they enter the army or "discharge as of right" on the last week). It's sorted out more than a few wayward youths.

Something similar would be useful in Ireland I think.

Chucken

donegal_road wrote: »

have your parents thought of having him professionally assessed? Sounds a bit my next door neighbour's son, and it turns out he has Aspergers Syndrome.. (not meaning to alarm you)
There is an online Asperger's test here

But dont go by that only, have him see a professional. The army may not the best idea for your brother, he will need to be in an environment which will best suit him.




*I just put a link in to a different Aspergers test site to the first one I posted

The OP has this thread posted in the Military Forum as well, where he added that indeed his brother has been diagnosed with aspergers. Oddly enough he only posted that after you posted this here

I was going to suggest that the OP take his "little" brother aside and give him a talking to but it appears theres not much in their age difference.

Ando's Saggy Bottom

You'd be better off in Personal Issues OP. You'll just get the p*ss ripped out if you and your brother here.

Tombi!

On one hand, I'd say he's a right little fecker but the fact he has no problems flinging knives around might be something other than just being a little fecker.

I'd take the boy to a psychologist, TBH.

MagicMarker

It's not your brother who needs help, it's your parents.

juice1304

It sounds like your brother needs some support and help in overcoming whatever is wrong with him, shunning him and alienating him further will only make it worse. Maybe there is a reason for him acting out that he is not telling you. Boot camp etc.. will do more harm than good. You should spend some time with him find out what his interests are and do them together and get him interested in going out and doing things. It may be difficult at first but it would do you both good.
Try and get him involved in something he enjoys where he can meet others his age with the same interest that won't be going drinking etc.. You could also get him to start to work towards making whatever it is he enjoys doing into a future career.
Anyway he needs support this ignorant attitude of he needs a kicking etc.. doesn't work. I just recently witnessed the consequences of this method where someone i know decided to hang himself, None of his friends even knew there was something that wrong until we all heard the news. He was given no support by his family who thought he was just acting the prick there was obviously some underlying issues. If any of us had known we would have done our best to help him but we did'nt see him all the time and maybe only saw one side of him.

I'd like to add that although the army may be a good choice further down the road i don't think it would be a good idea sending someone with violent tendencies who is somewhat mentally unstable to an environment of enormous amounts of stress. It is a constant test of your physical and mental abilities in the beginning.

sgb

The Army sounds a great idea, they will teach how to throw knives properly and train him on array of more dangerous weapons

JonathanAnon

showsaf wrote: »

TLDR My brother is socially awkward, lazy and does not attend school due to lack of discipline, though is also considered dangerous with frequent threats and physcial harm to my family, he has expressed interest in changing, however. Any ideas?

^ I'm not reading all that..



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Esoteric_

He needs mental health assessments, with follow up treatment. If psychiatrists have recommended a stay in a psychiatric unit, why have your parents not sent him in? Sending somebody who potentially has mental health issues to the army is a silly and potentially dangerous idea. You don't give weapons to volatile, unpredictable people, ffs.

KyussBishop

Not going to school, socially isolated due to awkwardness, loses temper frequently, psychiatrists suggesting mental hospital, throwing knifes at people; yea, nothing to suggest mental illness or emotional issues there, must just be a lack of work ethics and discipline. Great conclusion.

Get the guy to a good private psychologist, not a bootcamp ffs.

biko

Sounds like possible a mental health issue, but then again he's 15 which is the socially awkward rebellious age..


AH answer - keep beating him until morale improves.

Meangadh

As someone who taught in a boarding school, I can tell you now that sending him to a boarding school against his will will more than likely only serve to make his problems worse- he could become angry and resentful and worst of all have no trust or faith in his family. Obviously there are exceptions to this (and obviously some kids love boarding school) but from my experience I would have dealt with some very angry young people who felt they were merely passed on to someone else to deal with them.

Your brother needs structure and routine, perhaps even some hobbies- as well as professional psychological support.

Lelantos

let all of AH kick the OP in the nuts, it'll cheer the brother up no end & he'll go on to be a Nobel prize winner in twatology

Sugar Soap

discus wrote: »

In the UK the army takes on 16 year olds into Army Foundation College combines some education with basic training, and takes place over the course of a year (after which they enter the army or "discharge as of right" on the last week). It's sorted out more than a few wayward youths.

Something similar would be useful in Ireland I think.

The British Army is perpetually short of recruits. It will try anything to get a few more. The opposite is the case in Ireland. There is huge competion to enlist. Why should gard working young people with excellent potential be forced to make way for anti social psychopathic wasters?