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NCT query -ignition key

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  • 31-05-2013 8:01am
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    mikemcdeedy100
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 115 ✭✭


    quick question

    i can remove the key from the ignition while driving

    i assume it's an nct fail?

    i went through the nct list but couldn't find mention of it there


    can someone confirm the obvious for me thanks


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    smoking_kills
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    mikemcdeedy100 wrote: »
    quick question

    i can remove the key from the ignition while driving

    i assume it's an nct fail?

    i went through the nct list but couldn't find mention of it there


    can someone confirm the obvious for me thanks

    When you say you can remove it, does it kill the engine, or just pull out and the engine stays running?


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    ironclaw
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    smoking_kills wrote: »
    When you say you can remove it, does it kill the engine, or just pull out and the engine stays running?

    Is it a factory standard car? I know ex-UK police cars had a system where you could remove the key and the engine would stay running. However touch any of the pedals and the engine cut out. Same in ambulances. Allowed the operator to give chase and not worry about the car going walkies. Unfortunately common sense hasn't brought it in here.


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    smoking_kills
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    ironclaw wrote: »
    Is it a factory standard car? I know ex-UK police cars had a system where you could remove the key and the engine would stay running. However touch any of the pedals and the engine cut out. Same in ambulances. Allowed the operator to give chase and not worry about the car going walkies. Unfortunately common sense hasn't brought it in here.

    Who would nick a Police car or Ambulance? :confused:

    Also if they are selling on ex police cars, they would surely remove the system?


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    mikemcdeedy100
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 115 ✭✭mikemcdeedy100


    smoking_kills wrote: »
    When you say you can remove it, does it kill the engine, or just pull out and the engine stays running?

    sorry didnt make it clear


    key pulls straight out -engine runnin

    it seems an obvious fail to me

    but it got through an nct before


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    djimi
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    My sister can remove the key from her car while the engine is on, and it recently passed the NCT. I dont think its part of the test, and I doubt its something that they would even think to check to be honest.


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    djimi
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    smoking_kills wrote: »
    Who would nick a Police car or Ambulance? :confused:

    Seriously? There are hoards of scumbags out there who would see that as the crowning achievement of their life if they went joyriding in a cop car/ambulance.


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    mikemcdeedy100
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 115 ✭✭mikemcdeedy100


    djimi wrote: »
    My sister can remove the key from her car while the engine is on, and it recently passed the NCT. I dont think its part of the test, and I doubt its something that they would even think to check to be honest.

    the car came with fresh nct and this issue

    my mechanic told me its a fail

    but i couldn't find it on the nct pdf document


    it's an old car with worn key and lock goes without sayin


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    smoking_kills
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    djimi wrote: »
    My sister can remove the key from her car while the engine is on, and it recently passed the NCT. I dont think its part of the test, and I doubt its something that they would even think to check to be honest.

    Yeah, why would they check something like that? They usually just start the car, drive it in and then keep it running until the test is over, so unless the key fall out i doubt they will twig it.


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    mikemcdeedy100
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 115 ✭✭mikemcdeedy100


    ok thanks

    would be a PITA to sort out

    is it not a safety issue at all then??


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    biko
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    It's not a fail, nct won't care. GFs Micra can do this too.


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    nct tester
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    no its not a fail, only a fail if the key cant be removed or if the car cant be turned off.


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    djimi
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    mikemcdeedy100 wrote: »
    ok thanks

    would be a PITA to sort out

    is it not a safety issue at all then??

    Depends if the problem is with the key or the barrell. If its the barrell then it would be a big enough job to sort.

    I dont really see why its a safety issue. Worst case scenario you cant turn off the engine, but its not that difficult to stall an engine if you really need to. For the most part its an issue that you wouldnt even notice.


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    mikemcdeedy100
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    great
    thanks guys/gals?


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    smoking_kills
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    mikemcdeedy100 wrote: »
    ok thanks

    would be a PITA to sort out

    is it not a safety issue at all then??

    What type of car is it?

    No, cant really see it as a safety issue.


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    ironclaw
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    djimi wrote: »
    There are hoards of scumbags out there who would see that as the crowning achievement of their life if they went joyriding in a cop car/ambulance.

    Exactly. Pretty sure there was a case last Halloween of this happening.

    Link: http://www.irishtimes.com/news/dublin-ambulance-stolen-during-call-out-1.750346

    Disgraceful behavior and frankly it should be treated in court as attempted murder. Its not a very advanced system but it is clever and I'm fairly sure I knew someone with an old UK Volvo that had it fitted.


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