Summer Tours 2013 Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

Taco Corp

Thought a thread for the other tours would be useful. Probably won't get that much attention but below are all the fixtures (I hope). I've listed all the Ireland games as well but they'll be probably be discussed in the other threads.

Some info on the Quadrangular Tournament

TV
TG4 will be broadcasting the Irish games.
BBC will be showing the England games.
Sky are showing some of the other games, in particular NZ v France
Haven't seen any info on the Emerging Ireland games.

Date|Tour|Fixture|Location|Time
Fri 7 June|IRB Tbilisi Cup|South Africa President's XV v Uruguay|Tbilisi|17:00 local 13:00 GMT 14:00 BST
Fri 7 June|IRB Tbilisi Cup|Georgia v Emerging Ireland|Tbilisi|19:00 local 15:00 GMT 16:00 BST
Sat 8 June|Wales tour|Japan v Wales|Osaka|14:00 local 05:00 GMT 06:00 BST
Sat 8 June|France tour / Gallaher Cup|New Zealand v France|Auckland|19:35 local 07:35 GMT 08:35 BST
Sat 8 June|Quadrangular Tournament|Samoa v Scotland|Durban|14:15 local 12:15 GMT 13:15 BST
Sat 8 June|Quadrangular Tournament|South Africa v Italy|Durban|17:15 local 15:15 GMT 16:15 BST
Sat 8 June|England tour|Argentina v England|Salta|16:10 local 19:10 GMT 20:10 BST
Sat 8 June|Ireland tour|USA v Ireland|Houston|19:30 local 01:30 Irish
Tue 11 June|IRB Tbilisi Cup|Emerging Ireland v South Africa President's XV|Tbilisi|17:00 local 13:00 GMT 14:00 BST
Tue 11 June|IRB Tbilisi Cup|Georgia v Uruguay|Tbilisi|19:00 local 15:00 GMT 16:00 BST
Sat 15 June|Wales tour|Japan v Wales|Tokyo|14:00 local 05:00 GMT 06:00 BST
Sat 15 June|France tour|New Zealand v France|Addington|19:35 local 07:35 GMT 08:35 BST
Sat 15 June|Quadrangular Tournament|Italy v Samoa|Nelspruit|14:15 local 12:15 GMT 13:15 BST
Sat 15 June|Quadrangular Tournament|South Africa v Scotland|Nelspruit|17:15 local 15:15 GMT 16:15 BST
Sat 15 June|England tour|Argentina v England|Buenos Aires|16:10 local 19:10 GMT 20:10 BST
Sat 15 June|Ireland tour|Canada v Ireland|Toronto|20:00 local 01:00 Irish
Sun 16 June|IRB Tbilisi Cup|Emerging Ireland v Uruguay|Tbilisi|17:00 local 13:00 GMT 14:00 BST
Sun 16 June|IRB Tbilisi Cup|Georgia v South Africa President's XV|Tbilisi|19:00 local 15:00 GMT 16:00 BST
Sat 22 June|France tour|New Zealand v France|New Plymouth|19:35 local 07:35 GMT 08:35 BST
Sat 22 June|Quadrangular Tournament|TBC v TBC|Pretoria|14:15 local 12:15 GMT 13:15 BST
Sat 22 June|Quadrangular Tournament|Final: TBC v TBC|Pretoria|17:15 local 15:15 GMT 16:15 BST
Sat 22 June|Georgia tour|Argentina v Georgia|San Juan|16:10 local 19:10 GMT 20:10 BST

bilston

Sky will have NZ v France and I assume they will this fascinating tournament in South Africa with Scotland, Samoa and Italy.

trouttrout

Be a long night for the Ireland game, match day threads might actually be bearable too!

Taco Corp

bilston wrote: »

Sky will have NZ v France and I assume they will this fascinating tournament in South Africa with Scotland, Samoa and Italy.

they are indeed, don't know why I didn't check. I updated the OP

Podge_irl

****, Ireland games will be at 4.30 and 5.00am were I am. Late night or early morning - hard to decide.

totallegend

trouttrout wrote: »

Be a long night for the Ireland game, match day threads might actually be bearable too!

Those kick-off times are wrong I think... Think the USA and Canada matches kick off at 1am Irish time. Still, long night of fighting to keep my eyes open. I think I have a solution though:

Taco Corp

totallegend wrote: »

Those kick-off times are wrong I think... Think the USA and Canada matches kick off at 1am Irish time. Still, long night of fighting to keep my eyes open. I think I have a solution though:

think you're right. I got them from here http://www.espn.co.uk/scrum/rugby/series/173964.html?template=fixtures but I didn't check them. OP updated

Teferi

I'll be in America for the Irish game, I'll have to find somewhere that shows it.

matthew8

SA squad announced for the tournament:

Backs:

Zane Kirchner – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Fullback
Pat Lambie – The Sharks – Flyhalf / Fullback
Gio Aplon – DHL Western Province – Wing / Fullback
Willie le Roux – Toyota Free State Cheetahs – Fullback / Wing
Lwazi Mvovo – The Sharks – Wing
Bryan Habana – DHL Western Province – Wing
Bjorn Basson – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Wing
JJ Engelbrecht – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Centre / Wing
Juan de Jongh – DHL Western Province – Centre
Jean de Villiers – DHL Western Province – Centre and Captain
Jan Serfontein – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Centre
Morné Steyn – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Flyhalf
Ruan Pienaar – Ulster, Ireland – Scrumhalf
Francois Hougaard – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Scrumhalf
Jano Vermaak – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Scrumhalf

Forwards:

Pierre Spies – Vodacom Blue Bulls – No 8
Willem Alberts – The Sharks – Loose forward
Arno Botha – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Loose forward
Marcell Coetzee – The Sharks – Loose forward
Siya Kolisi – DHL Western Province – Loose forward
Pieter Labuschagne – Toyota Free State Cheetahs – Loose forward
Francois Louw – Bath, England – Loose forward
Juandré Kruger – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Lock
Flip van der Merwe – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Lock
Pieter-Steph du Toit – The Sharks – Lock
Eben Etzebeth – DHL Western Province – Lock
Jannie du Plessis – The Sharks – Prop
Lourens Adriaanse – GWK Griquas – Prop
Tendai Mtawarira – The Sharks – Prop
Trevor Nyakane – Toyota Free State Cheetahs – Prop
Coenie Oosthuizen – Toyota Free State Cheetahs – Prop
Adriaan Strauss – Toyota Free State Cheetahs – Hooker
Bismarck du Plessis – The Sharks – Hooker
Chiliboy Ralepelle – Vodacom Blue Bulls – Hooker

thomond2006

Well if he is not picked by now we can assume Kockott intends to play for France and not South Africa.

lurtz

matthew8 wrote: »

SA squad announced for the tournament:

Interesting to see a Currie Cup player picked

irishbucsfan

Lourens Adriaanse has been playing regularly for the Cheetahs this season, starting!

Why does it say Griquas? Is it a contractual thing?

Taco Corp

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Lourens Adriaanse has been playing regularly for the Cheetahs this season, starting!

Why does it say Griquas? Is it a contractual thing?

could be. NZ did something similar with their squad announcement

http://www.allblacks.com/news/22417/All-Blacks-squad-named-for-Steinlager-Series---6-new-caps

irishbucsfan

Captain_Hindsight wrote: »

could be. NZ did something similar with their squad announcement

http://www.allblacks.com/news/22417/All-Blacks-squad-named-for-Steinlager-Series---6-new-caps

Yeah but all those guys are with their provinces. The SA guys are all with their franchises apart from Adriaanse. I guess he must be on an academy contract or something similar.

Deano7788

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Yeah but all those guys are with their provinces. The SA guys are all with their franchises apart from Adriaanse. I guess he must be on an academy contract or something similar.

They're all actually listed by their Currie Cup teams, just most of the others overlap with the Super Rugby franchise. Etzebeth is down as DHL Western Province, rather than the Stormers for instance.

irishbucsfan

Deano7788 wrote: »

They're all actually listed by their Currie Cup teams, just most of the others overlap with the Super Rugby franchise. Etzebeth is down as DHL Western Province, rather than the Stormers for instance.

Ah you're right! My bad. Was just confused.

Fireball07

Only 2 European-based players....trying to think are there any notable absentees? Is Francois Steyn injured?

Losty Dublin

Fiji-Japan in the Pacific cup is live on Setanta Ireland now. Camera works wobbly but it bates BGT

Swan Curry

The Fiji Japan match is an absolute farce.The pitch is completely waterlogged.A player could get seriously hurt if they were trapped under a ruck in one of those puddles for too long.

Losty Dublin

Swan Curry wrote: »

The Fiji Japan match is an absolute farce.The pitch is completely waterlogged.A player could get seriously hurt if they were trapped under a ruck in one of those puddles for too long.

Not to sound all old school here but there are schools and junior club pitches around the province that get as bad as it.

That said it wasn't a bad game of football to watch. Japan just refused to give up and impressed me with their general play. The last try from Fiji was amazing to say the least on a normal day but with the conditions on hand it's mind blowing; definitely one for Rugbydump.

19543261

Look at him nail the Fijian names! Ahahaha, beast

totallegend

Four new caps for Wales in the starting XV against Japan and four more on the bench.

18-year old Dafydd Howells makes his debut after just five games in the Welsh premiership and two in the LV Cup. Mental.

Li. Williams - Robinson, O. Williams, Spratt, Howells, Biggar, Ll. Williams - King, McCusker, Coombs - Reed, Davies (cap) - Andrews, Phillips, Bevington

Reps: Baldwin, Gill, Jones, Pretorius, Baker, Knoyle, Patchell, Prydie

Hype710

totallegend wrote: »

Four new caps for Wales in the starting XV against Japan and four more on the bench; Scarlets out-half prodigy Owen Williams starts at inside-centre while Cardiff out-half prodigy Rhys Patchell could make his debut from the bench.

18-year old Dafydd Howells makes his debut after just five games in the Welsh premiership and two in the LV Cup. Mental.

Li. Williams - Robinson, O. Williams, Spratt, Howells, Biggar, Ll. Williams - King, McCusker, Coombs - Reed, Davies (cap) - Andrews, Phillips, Bevington

Reps: Baldwin, Gill, Jones, Pretorius, Baker, Knoyle, Patchell, Prydie

Pretty sure Owen Williams is the Cardiff Centre and not the Leicester-bound 10.