Take a Walk on the Westside

dilallio

I was driving on the Seamus Quirke Rd with a visitor who used to live in Galway, when he spotted the "Talk a Walk on the Westside" sign near Cuan Glas (Deane Roundabout).

We got into a discussion about where the boundaries between Westside / Rahoon / Newcastle / Knocknacarra are, and couldn't agree. He was arguing (possibly correctly) that Westside is a subset of Rahoon.

Is there any official guide - I tried looking at the city council website but couldn't find anything definite.

Also while looking, I noticed that in a lot of official documents, Ballybane seems to be changed to Ballybaan. When did this happen?

Thanks

snubbleste

It originates from the name of the retail mecca that is westside shopping centre.


An Baile Bán was warped into english as Ballybaan. Not sure why it is written as Ballybane.

siltirocker

It very much an 'each to their own' thing but I would say personally it's Rosan Glas to the West, The reservoir to the North, Thomas Hynes Road to the North East and Colmcille Road to the South East with the old Shantalla/Rahoon Road to the South.



But again, it's hard to say. Just my own opinion.

biko

There's a map here, not very precise.

snubbleste

biko wrote: »

There's a map here, not very precise.

That is an electoral boundary map. You wouldn't put College Road, Eyre Square, Galway on a letter?

dilallio

biko wrote: »

There's a map here, not very precise.

Thanks Biko - I just located a slightly better resolution of the same map here

It has Barna stretching all the way to Corrach Bui next to the Westside playing fields, and St Nicholas' is enormous.

antoobrien

dilallio wrote: »

Also while looking, I noticed that in a lot of official documents, Ballybane seems to be changed to Ballybaan. When did this happen?

The City council went through a fit of converting stuff to US English a few years ago, this is the result. Ballybane is how it would be written and pronounced by the locals (in Hiberno-English - yes it is a distinct dialect), but it's still a bit like using the american Brier instead of Briar.

inisboffin

siltirocker wrote: »

It very much an 'each to their own' thing but I would say personally it's Rosan Glas to the West, The reservoir to the North, Thomas Hynes Road to the North East and Colmcille Road to the South East with the old Shantalla/Rahoon Road to the South.



But again, it's hard to say. Just my own opinion.

I'd go by postal address, but saying that I used to live in Maunsells Park years ago. some of the residents put 'Taylors Hill' and the others 'Rahoon' or even 'Shantalla' or (not necessarily in any order of which they were a bit closer to)

Personally I would definitely say Ashe Road, Davis Road etc are Shantalla, not Rahoon or Westside. Rahoon Graveyard is definitely in Rahoon, and Currach Buí used to be Rahoon Flats, so from there back definitely Rahoon. I'd cut it off at Circular Road up, Bishop O' road on the bottom, and just before Letteragh on the top.
The technical townland of Rahoon is huge though. There have been loads of discussions about the Dunnes 'Knocknacarra' for example, which is technically (according to its delivery address) in Rahoon townland, but many call it Knocknacarra, and the debate goes on. As someone said, the Westside name came later.

*edit, just saw the map which agrees with some of what I posted, not other bits, so there ya are!

dilallio

I know that DaCor did great work in mapping Galway in OpenStreetMap. Must pm them and ask how they assigned various estates.

I suppose if I owned a house in highfield, I would put down one suburb for my property tax form and another (probably Taylor's hill) if I was selling it. Seems to happen a lot on daft.ie and estate agents websites.

Mrs OBumble

siltirocker wrote: »

It very much an 'each to their own' thing but I would say personally it's Rosan Glas to the West, The reservoir to the North, Thomas Hynes Road to the North East and Colmcille Road to the South East with the old Shantalla/Rahoon Road to the South.



But again, it's hard to say. Just my own opinion.

You've put part of Shantalla into Westside .. this thread is gonna be fun to watch


We had a thread a while back about the difference between
The west side of the city (as defined by the Corrib)
Westside
The West (or Whest ...)

Great craic all round!

I've done a version of "the suburbs", which grew out of neighbourhood public transport maps. These are based on where the various bus routes go, how areas looked to me when i walked around them, and various opinions and prejudices expressed on this forum. No official sources were consulted - because my expereince is that they're out-of-date, or not based on what people actually use.

inisboffin

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

You've put part of Shantalla into Westside .. this thread is gonna be fun to watch


We had a thread a while back about the difference between
The west side of the city (as defined by the Corrib)
Westside
The West (or Whest ...)

Great craic all round!

I've done a version of "the suburbs", which grew out of neighbourhood public transport maps. These are based on where the various bus routes go, how areas looked to me when i walked around them, and various opinions and prejudices expressed on this forum. No official sources were consulted - because me expereince is that they're out-of-date, or not based on what people actually use.

Am I reading the map right :eek: Has Rahoon been eliminated *entirely* on your map and eaten by a Westside pacman?

Dan_Solo

Whatever way you slice up the map, make sure you keep El Prez in Westside!:D
Only good thing out of the east side is the road to the Westside. LOL.

mikom

dilallio wrote: »

he spotted the "Talk a Walk on the Westside" sign near Cuan Glas (Deane Roundabout).

♫

Nuala came from Corofin, County Clare
Hitch-hiked her way across to Gal-Way.
Plucked her eyebrows on the way
Shaved her legs and then he was a she
She says, "Hey, Scan
Take a walk on the Westside"
She said, "Hey, Scan
Take a walk on the Westside"

Ciara came from out on the Aran Islands
In the back room she was everybody's darling
But she never lost her head
Even when she was giving head
She says, "Hey, Scan
Take a walk on the Westside"
Said, "Hey, Scan
Take a walk on the wild side"
And the colored girls go
"Doo do doo do doo do do doo ..."

Little Niall never once gave it away
Everybody had to pay and pay
A hussle here and a hussle there
Gaway City's the place
Where they said, "Hey, Scan
Take a walk on the Westside"
I said, "Hey, Scan
Take a walk on the Westside"

Sugar Plum Fergus came and hit the streets
Looking for Taco fries and a place to eat
Went to Supermacs on Eyre square
You should've seen them queuing there
They said, "Hey, Scan
Take a walk on the Westside"
I said, "Hey, Scan
Take a walk on the Westside"
All right, huh

Brigid is just speeding away
Thought she was James Dean for a day
Then I guess she had to crash
A ten spot would have helped that bash
Said, "Hey, Scan
Take a walk on the Westside"
I said, "Hey, Scan
Take a walk on the Westside"
And the colored girls say
"Doo do doo do doo do do doo ..."

Mrs OBumble

inisboffin wrote: »

Am I reading the map right :eek: Has Rahoon been eliminated *entirely* on your map and eaten by a Westside pacman?

I just didn't see enough of a difference between them to justify two different maps. So there's one called either "Westside / Rahoon" or "Rahoon / Westside" (can't remember which).

Besides houses, there's not actually much stuff in Rahoon: cemetery, and maybe the new laundry site depending on where you draw the boundary between it and Knockers. I'm sure there are interesting historic sites, but my focus was on things people are looking for today.

inisboffin

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I just didn't see enough of a difference between them to justify two different maps. So there's one called either "Westside / Rahoon" or "Rahoon / Westside" (can't remember which).

Besides houses, there's not actually much stuff in Rahoon: cemetery, and maybe the new laundry site depending on where you draw the boundary between it and Knockers. I'm sure there are interesting historic sites, but my focus was on things people are looking for today.

When I click on the area number, there is no Rahoon mentioned, just Westside. I'd personally have gone with the older townland name between the two.
Yeah, there are a few antiquities in the area too. Not sure what it says on the bus - via Rahoon or Westside - depending on the bus. More shops in Westside to be sure, but pity to lose a whole neighbourhood/area. I take your point about 'what people might be looking for though' but I'd make a case for keeping it if only for the houses and the graveyard.

hairyfairy00

Westside to me are the estates that are on Siobhán McKenna Road e.g. Inishannagh, Gaelcarraig, Coogan, Camillaun,Laurel Park and Corrib Park,
Glenn Darra and Corrach Buí are Rahoon! As someone said already 'Westside' doesn't actually exist as it was originally the name for the shopping centre.

I know my estate could have 3-4 different addresses, Upr Dangan, Newcastle, Rahoon and Westside!

dilallio

dilallio wrote: »

I know that DaCor did great work in mapping Galway in OpenStreetMap. Must pm them and ask how they assigned various estates.

I suppose if I owned a house in highfield, I would put down one suburb for my property tax form and another (probably Taylor's hill) if I was selling it. Seems to happen a lot on daft.ie and estate agents websites.

Housing estate boundaries are mapped as they appear, i.e. boundary walls, etc.

As for suburbs, there is no known accepted map of Galway suburbs anywhere that i am aware of. As a result, the suburb names as showing on OSM are based on single node locations (a dot on the map to indicate the rough centre) as opposed to an exact boundary.

I placed some of the suburb nodes based on my own understanding of where each suburb is. Some other folks placed a few too.

If anyone knows of any out-of-copyright map (or map with an appropriate licence) that shows the suburb boundaries, I will happily add it to OSM or show others how to do it.

As for "where is Westside", personally I equate it to the Northside/southside usage in Dublin. Its no specific area and stemmed from the shopping centre name on SQR.

I'd wager there is not a single location in the city that includes "Westside" as the suburb part of the address.......because its not a suburb

Caribbean Cat

Caribbean Cat wrote: »

If I may butt in to the convo....living in the "posh"side of the town..my mother recently informed me(yesterday)that the cathredal was built in the early 80's and that she and many other god fearing people bought a brick each(5£) but were told to go away in case the Bishop saw them standing there in their best clothes and shoes and gibberish(Gaeilge)coming from their mouths.

Construction started in 58 and finished in 65

2rkehij30qtza5

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Construction started in 58 and finished in 65

This is true. Was built by John Sisk, completed in early 60's on the site of the old gaol.