Job Bridge Predicament

Plastic Sheeting

Hi

I got called for two interviews this week. A condition of employment for both is that I must qualify for the job bridge programme and I don't. I only recently left college and my application for job seekers allowance is in the middle of being processed. To qualify for job bridge, I must be on unemployment benefit for 3 months. Can I do anything about it?

Susteng

I don't think so. I've been trying to get on the scheme (scam) for awhile now. I'm finished college a year now, with two degrees in engineering but have been working in my college part-time job (retail) for 5 years. I have been on job's assist since I finished college, casually claiming. I went to the social a month ago enquiring as to whether I am eligible or not and because I haven't claimed for 78 days in the last 6 months I don't qualify. I explained my case that I had two degrees, work in a clothes shop and that there are at least 10 live placements all suited to my qualifications on the scheme. Although the worker seemed compassionate she basically said "the more you can claim the better". But my company won't give me less days, which is a joke because I'm getting about 20-25 hours a week spread over 4 days.

I think I was 16 days off the total amount needed to be eligible (over my previous 6 months) which always applies to 6 months prior the date of enquiry. So my thinking is that if the social won't overlook a measly 2-3 weeks to make someone eligible then I highly doubt they will offer the scheme if you don't have a live claim. However I am curious to find out if you got the scheme and of course hope the best for you. If not, draw for the 3 months. I thought I was doing the honest thing and working instead of claiming, result - still folding clothes!!! I'm going leaving my job regardless in less than 2 months but unfortunately after doing my research I'll be in your position.

Let me know how you get/got on

Plastic Sheeting

Susteng wrote: »

I don't think so. I've been trying to get on the scheme (scam) for awhile now. I'm finished college a year now, with two degrees in engineering but have been working in my college part-time job (retail) for 5 years. I have been on job's assist since I finished college, casually claiming. I went to the social a month ago enquiring as to whether I am eligible or not and because I haven't claimed for 78 days in the last 6 months I don't qualify. I explained my case that I had two degrees, work in a clothes shop and that there are at least 10 live placements all suited to my qualifications on the scheme. Although the worker seemed compassionate she basically said "the more you can claim the better". But my company won't give me less days, which is a joke because I'm getting about 20-25 hours a week spread over 4 days.

I think I was 16 days off the total amount needed to be eligible (over my previous 6 months) which always applies to 6 months prior the date of enquiry. So my thinking is that if the social won't overlook a measly 2-3 weeks to make someone eligible then I highly doubt they will offer the scheme if you don't have a live claim. However I am curious to find out if you got the scheme and of course hope the best for you. If not, draw for the 3 months. I thought I was doing the honest thing and working instead of claiming, result - still folding clothes!!! I'm going leaving my job regardless in less than 2 months but unfortunately after doing my research I'll be in your position.

Let me know how you get/got on

I resent the fact that I went to college for three years and worked my a.ss off for that time and now they're telling me I must wait on the dole for three months just to qualify for some stupid government programme. I'm better just packing my bags and getting out of here because I'm not putting too much faith in this considering how the Jobbridge rules are applied and my own individual circumstances.

Realtivity

Susteng wrote: »

I don't think so. I've been trying to get on the scheme (scam) for awhile now.

If you believe it to be a scam why do you want to get on it ?

I'm not trying to be smart here. I have been debating this scheme elsewhere .It receives quite a lot of criticism yet there still seems to be a lot of demand for it.

I am interested to know if people are taking positions on it because DSP is pushing them to do so or because they want to gain experience as it is supposed to provide.

carzony

Realtivity wrote: »

If you believe it to be a scam why do you want to get on it ?

I'm not trying to be smart here. I have been debating this scheme elsewhere .It receives quite a lot of criticism yet there still seems to be a lot of demand for it.

I am interested to know if people are taking positions on it because DSP is pushing them to do so or because they want to gain experience as it is supposed to provide.

I'd say mostly because people are being forced to do these jobs, Then again if I don't get the college course I want, I might just apply for job bridge just to get somthing added to my cv but I really, really don't want to. I'd defo feel like I was being taking advantage of.

Realtivity

A third possiblity is that an extra €50 might be the difference between keeping the wolf out or getting eaten. Assuming you can keep most of it from being lost
on travelling etc.,

V123

another reason is that there are no other jobs and people genuinely want to work!

I think this scheme is not helping at all! The people that are on it are still being paid from the taxpayer from the dole.

yes some people are kept on in the job as a result and may get some good experience but for some of the jobs available though, you do not need months and months of working for lower than minimum wage to be trained and to be successful in. And some people are let go after they have worked for a long time earning less than 5 euro an hour only for the company to open up another jobs bridge position.


This scheme is taking away "real" jobs that are there anyway and employers are using it so as not to pay the worker! Aren't employers sponging off the dole?

Nate--IRL--

I was in the same situation and didn't qualify for JB - but I went for the jobridge placement I wanted anyway - got the placement and began without JB, and when I did qualify, I applied for the JB payments for the remainder of the placement period.

The Employer was ok with this arrangement, and I got a full time job out of it in place I really like.

Nate

Plastic Sheeting

Nate--IRL-- wrote: »

I was in the same situation and didn't qualify for JB - but I went for the jobridge placement I wanted anyway - got the placement and began without JB, and when I did qualify, I applied for the JB payments for the remainder of the placement period.

The Employer was ok with this arrangement, and I got a full time job out of it in place I really like.

Nate

That's exactly what I'm hoping for.

Thanks

Realtivity

Here we go again.

9 months training at the Car Wash !

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DGDQ61Yamh40J8tUNLFlKiWS6KwMuZAl79/Pjy6W9+IcjI37HYzTYJu3da7vTUgA3XSiTVxGf8QyORf87BH505SeG/ZMfIo/KpibrVQKVqJqzLP8Kxxh2BLaD7BVfUtQ3707CwNUjgS/DuNqnVAmaovx57Vgm1so7waK0fHm3jOS/7SNRCexf95oQxswH1n3TFYSd4/dFEKQNs7BzsP3oPY5OTzoiS/1xOu0ImCRGOVn6/u0C08Xsy97WYiVDOSWP1fWIGfBh1ZUW75pR/FYPK+bFCrHKpCDKlzkZ88al8CkgejPTUKPCq+ulrXAzcZowMILpVSU+lQkWTT1gj1EBbPeTD7UXXbDYBrpZMIwxLABB3YNawiQqQwM3E8Keyg30QZVv2KZ2HCE4dECHelzU4PsMW9sJ3FcsUtyAhaQIaEI

carzony

Realtivity wrote: »

Here we go again.

9 months training at the Car Wash !

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DGDQ61Yamh40J8tUNLFlKiWS6KwMuZAl79/Pjy6W9+IcjI37HYzTYJu3da7vTUgA3XSiTVxGf8QyORf87BH505SeG/ZMfIo/KpibrVQKVqJqzLP8Kxxh2BLaD7BVfUtQ3707CwNUjgS/DuNqnVAmaovx57Vgm1so7waK0fHm3jOS/7SNRCexf95oQxswH1n3TFYSd4/dFEKQNs7BzsP3oPY5OTzoiS/1xOu0ImCRGOVn6/u0C08Xsy97WYiVDOSWP1fWIGfBh1ZUW75pR/FYPK+bFCrHKpCDKlzkZ88al8CkgejPTUKPCq+ulrXAzcZowMILpVSU+lQkWTT1gj1EBbPeTD7UXXbDYBrpZMIwxLABB3YNawiQqQwM3E8Keyg30QZVv2KZ2HCE4dECHelzU4PsMW9sJ3FcsUtyAhaQIaEI

I happen to know proper car detailing is a very good skill to have and is very hard work but it doesn't take 9 months to learn it :mad::mad::mad:

Realtivity

Anyone talking this job will do it solely because they are desperate and need the extra 50.Or because they feel pushed into taking it.
Either way it is wrong.


It is hard to see how anyone could seriously expect that this job would train them for anything or that it would enhance their CV in any way.

Plastic Sheeting

I'd love to know where the government got the 50 euro figure from. It doesn't sound like there was much thought put into it. They could have easily made it a condition to pay interns a hundred euro allowance which would bring there total earnings up to near minimum wage.

Plastic Sheeting

Realtivity wrote: »

Anyone talking this job will do it solely because they are desperate and need the extra 50.Or because they feel pushed into taking it.
Either way it is wrong.


It is hard to see how anyone could seriously expect that this job would train them for anything or that it would enhance their CV in any way.

There's two ways of looking at JobBridge. The first, it creates a massive amount of internships for graduates, internships which may never had existed had it not being for the recession.

Secondly, it forces students onto the dole, creating an own goal for the government since unemployed people get priority over fresh graduates.

So if you're student its not so bad, if you don't mind waiting on the dole to qualify for three months and if you're the government it's bad, since you're directly increasing government expenditure.

Nate--IRL--

Plastic Sheeting wrote: »

So if you're student its not so bad, if you don't mind waiting on the dole to qualify for three months and if you're the government it's bad, since you're directly increasing government expenditure.

Increasing expenditure doesn't matter as long as these people don't appear on the live register. They are paying money to get people off the live register. It is a win win for the Government.

Nate