Opel Mokka

patgmail

Has anybody actually driven the 4 wheel drive Mokka? If so what is the handling like?

colm_mcm

Yes I have. Tbh I didn't find it very grippy and there's a noticeable clunk when the rear wheels eventually kick in. If you want grip all the time you'd want full time 4wd.
That said its no worse than its rivals and it doesn't roll around.
The camel scrotum effect dashboard is rotten too.

ba_barabus

colm_mcm wrote: »

Yes I have. Tbh I didn't find it very grippy and there's a noticeable clunk when the rear wheels eventually kick in. If you want grip all the time you'd want full time 4wd.
That said its no worse than its rivals and it doesn't roll around.
The camel scrotum effect dashboard is rotten too.

No sound deadening, literally you'll hear all the road noise. I did like the interior and the view forward was good but the view out the sides and rear was woeful. It's narrow too

colm_mcm

They are quite cheap though.

ba_barabus

colm_mcm wrote: »

They are quite cheap though.

Yes and no. You'll be paying over 20k for a decent spec with reversing sensors which you'll need.

Tbh the one I drove felt cheap even if it was the top spec. The sound deadening really was awful, some plastics were naff and it just seemed to have no space.

Others do it better.

colm_mcm

20k is astra money. The mokka would sell to people who'd never buy an astra

For the same money what mini SUV woud you get though?

spank_inferno

Look at the Yeti instead.

Better cars, bit more expensive though.

colm_mcm

The yeti is an acquired taste though. If the yeti was decent looking nobody would buy a tiguan.

ba_barabus

colm_mcm wrote: »

20k is astra money. The mokka would sell to people who'd never buy an astra

Young fashionable types according to the marketing.

Then again they have the Adam for that. Astra for people wanting space for a child and saloons for farmers/retired men, Meriva for old people in general with dodgy hips. Zafira for those who don't believe in contraception but have lost the will to keep on living. Corsa for rental companies. And finally the Insignia is the cool car for reps even if they do end up in the poverty model as the real successful guys get 520ds.

Oh and the Astra coupe for 50 year old women trying to relive their youth............and they made 1 for MuppetCheck

ba_barabus

colm_mcm wrote: »

The yeti is an acquired taste though. If the yeti was decent looking nobody would buy a tiguan.

I agree but we picked a petrol Yeti over a Mokka. Different price league though as you pointed out earlier but it shows in the materials used. We had found a top spec Yeti with leather but it was diesel and sadly my mother only does 7k km a year nearly all of which is short trips. Petrol made sense and the 1.2Tsi is surprisingly nice engine with the 6 speed box.

MuppetCheck

ba_barabus wrote: »

Young fashionable types according to the marketing.

Then again they have the Adam for that. Astra for people wanting space for a child and saloons for farmers/retired men, Meriva for old people in general with dodgy hips. Zafira for those who don't believe in contraception but have lost the will to keep on living. Corsa for rental companies. And finally the Insignia is the cool car for reps even if they do end up in the poverty model as the real successful guys get 520ds.

Oh and the Astra coupe for 50 year old women trying to relive their youth............and they made 1 for MuppetCheck

If they did I haven't seen it yet.

I've gone from driving a rental to being a cool rep and this evening I'll be a retired man/farmer. And I wont mention the Pug they put me in to begin with:pac:

ba_barabus

MuppetCheck wrote: »

If they did I haven't seen it yet.

I've gone from driving a rental to being a cool rep and this evening I'll be a retired man/farmer. And I wont mention the Pug they put me in to begin with:pac:

Shall we expect allowing report on the range of Opel cars currently for sale

MuppetCheck

ba_barabus wrote: »

Shall we expect allowing report on the range of Opel cars currently for sale

Corsa is slower than a boat and the Insignia handles like one.

Zcott

ba_barabus wrote: »

Young fashionable types according to the marketing.

Then again they have the Adam for that. Astra for people wanting space for a child and saloons for farmers/retired men, Meriva for old people in general with dodgy hips. Zafira for those who don't believe in contraception but have lost the will to keep on living. Corsa for rental companies. And finally the Insignia is the cool car for reps even if they do end up in the poverty model as the real successful guys get 520ds.

Oh and the Astra coupe for 50 year old women trying to relive their youth............and they made 1 for MuppetCheck

I would thank this post twice if I could.

Zubeneschamali

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Corsa is slower than a boat and the Insignia handles like one.

A periscope and sonar would be useful in the Insignia, too, terrible visibility.

Marcusm

ba_barabus wrote: »

I agree but we picked a petrol Yeti over a Mokka. Different price league though as you pointed out earlier but it shows in the materials used. We had found a top spec Yeti with leather but it was diesel and sadly my mother only does 7k km a year nearly all of which is short trips. Petrol made sense and the 1.2Tsi is surprisingly nice engine with the 6 speed box.

Why did she not get a Meriva? :rolleyes:

MuppetCheck

Is there any particular reason you are going for the 4 wheel drive version over the 2 wheel drive one?

ba_barabus

Marcusm wrote: »

Why did she not get a Meriva? :rolleyes:

Because she hated it, has two functioning hips and she proudly doesn't feel as old as she is.

Don't really understand the roll eyes

colm_mcm

ba_barabus wrote: »

Because she hated it, has two functioning hips and she proudly doesn't feel as old as she is.

Don't really understand the roll eyes

I take it she's not old and hasn't a dodgy hip!

Marcusm

ba_barabus wrote: »

Because she hated it, has two functioning hips and she proudly doesn't feel as old as she is.

Don't really understand the roll eyes

Not really roll eyes as looking up to your post where you said they were for oul wans (to paraphrase). No offence intended either to you or your (undoubtedly) Joanna Lumley like mother.

Never driven one and only experience was as a passegner. Have the cabs in Rio are Merivas and I initially tried to avoid them (being 6'5" and a similar width) only to find (when I had to use one) that they were by far the most comfortable cab because of ease of entry/exit plus decent legroom.

Mokka seems to be GM's way of playing catch up and beating the German unions. It's bizarre that they can't produce profitable cars in Europe (although might be a legacy pensions issue) given that Nissan's Qashqai (which seems to have been the progenitor for all this) was designed and built in England.

patgmail

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Is there any particular reason you are going for the 4 wheel drive version over the 2 wheel drive one?

I have always driven Opel and have a great relationship with the dealer. I'm fed up being stranded on our rural road every time it snows and would get use for 4 wheel in some of the places I go fishing. Cost is not a problem as I usually change the Insignia every 2 years and the OH's Astra every 3.

I'm amazed how people here drift off topic so easily. Apart from you only one other actually addressed the question asked.

MuppetCheck

Well that's a reason for buying it at least, and I drifted off topic too:)

I had a loan of an Insignia for the last few weeks and dropped it back earlier. Sat into a Mokka when I was waiting and it's a step down in terms of the interior if that is of a concern. Seat pattern is a bit...jazzy...looking at the specs though you get a serious amount equipment in the higher models. It's not a bad looking car for what it is. There's also a 4x4 Insignia too.

patgmail

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Well that's a reason for buying it at least, and I drifted off topic too:)

I had a loan of an Insignia for the last few weeks and dropped it back earlier. Sat into a Mokka when I was waiting and it's a step down in terms of the interior if that is of a concern. Seat pattern is a bit...jazzy...looking at the specs though you get a serious amount equipment in the higher models. It's not a bad looking car for what it is. There's also a 4x4 Insignia too.

As the family are all grown I am usually alone in the car now and the insignia is now a bit big - not great down boreens or country tracks either.

ba_barabus

It may be a lot cheaper to buy a set of winter tyres. You'd be surprised how much of a difference they make if you adapt your driving style.

Add to that there is a bigger Opel 4x4 that is better