Melbourne or Sydney?

kieranfitz

After nearly 11 months in W.A. it's time for me to move on. Was hoping the good people of boards could offer any opinions as to which would be the better option. Hostel recommendations also welcome.

Hail 2 Da Thief

Hang on there one moment while I grab my crystal ball!


Joking aside, it might help if you gave us a bit more info to go on!

SHOVELLER

Melbourne all day long.

NinjaK

SHOVELLER wrote: »

Melbourne all day long.

why?

analordafx

i thought Melbourne was pretty cool, more european, somewhat! Love the trams
Sydney is good too, avoid Bondi! You must do both but i would live in Melboure

lg123

depends on the lifestyle you are after? two fairly different cities.

SHOVELLER

NinjaK wrote: »

why?

First line in the post under yours.

Found Sydney a ****hole to be honest.

GiftofGab

Melbourne is better for living, Sydney is better to a visit.....majority of people who've been to both enjoy living in Melbourne the most

GiftofGab

Melbourne is better for living, Sydney is better for a week / weekend visit.....majority of people who've been to both enjoy living in Melbourne the most

sin_city

I lived in Sydney for a year and Melbourne for 2(still here).

Sydney looks amazing but behind the look of the CBD is the western suburbs that seem to go on forever. The people are not as nice and chilled out as they are in Melbourne.

Melbourne is more chilled, more going on, AFL, Grand Prix, tennis, biggest cricket matches and they don't knock NRL. In Sydney they make little of AFL. It doesn't matter if you like or don't like these events...there is more of a buzz in Melbourne, that's the point. More art, more music, and easier to get around.

lg123

GiftofGab wrote: »

Melbourne is better for living, Sydney is better to a visit.....majority of people who've been to both enjoy living in Melbourne the most

dont think i'd agree with that, but each to their own.

Mellor

GiftofGab wrote: »

Melbourne is better for living, Sydney is better to a visit.....majority of people who've been to both enjoy living in Melbourne the most

A couple of million people would disagree with tbh

hussey

Sydney is big and flash
Melbourne is hip & cool.

Both have great features. For everyone that says Melbourne is better, there will be one that will say Sydney.

It really depends on you.

Stevie888

Melbourne, a thousand times Melbourne.
Take away the beaches and harbour views and Sydney is very average. As someone said it's big and flash, but with zero charm. Its also difficult to navigate, un-neccesarily expensive and all in all bit of a soulless, vacuous place. Apart from the area known as "the Rocks" and Newtown (which is really just Melbourne-lite) I couldn't find anything to love about the place.
Melbourne is by some great distance, the cultural capital of Australia. It's also, to a lesser degree, the sporting capital. During the summer there is a large scale, free festival on at least every other weekend, Moomba, Spanish street party, White Night etc. You are never stuck for something to do, the city is packed full of entertainment.
The people are also far more open minded and liberal, and are very welcoming and friendly compared to Sydneysiders, who would sometimes struggle to give you the time of day.
For a city of 4 million people, it's also very easy to get around, compared to Sydney, which is disjointed and a bit all over the place. Depending on where you live, you have to get a train aswell as a bus to get anywhere, which is a massive pain in the arse if your going to be working.
My favourite thing about Melbourne though is the way that the inner suburbs each have a different personality. A night out in Fitzroy is very different to a night out on Chapel Street which is different again to a night out in the CBD. You just don't get that kind of diversity in Sydney. Also, to live in each suburb is a different experience, whereas Sydney is all a bit samey.
Having said all that though, younger people, usually in their very early 20's seem to prefer Sydney. Me and most people I have met over here - Melbourne every day of the week.

Stevie888

Mellor wrote: »

A couple of million people would disagree with tbh

Why, have you asked them all?

username2013

Id agree with most of the other posters above, Id much prefer to live in Melbourne. Thought Sydney was very brash and a bit fake, and also very hard to get away from the whole Irish scene. I found Melbourne to be much laid back, and in general had a bit more to it, if thats makes sense.

However I have a lot of friends who adore Sydney and wouldnt live anywhere else so if I were you Id give both a go and see which you prefer. Its all subjective after all, different strokes for different folks and all that....

Mellor

Stevie888 wrote: »

Why, have you asked them all?

No, to put it simply. If the majority of people preferred to live in Melbourne, they wouldn't have chosen elsewhere. Obviously some people didn't have much of a choice in the matter. But there's of plenty of us here that did. Most likely, the entire forum did.

Take away the beaches...

The beaches are one of best aspects of the Australian lifestyle. Why would any sane person "take them away" when evaluating a city. For nice beaches, Sydney all day long.

Apart from the area known as "the Rocks" and Newtown (which is really just Melbourne-lite) I couldn't find anything to love about the place.

The rocks has some great restaurants and pubs but its expensive.
I'm not a fan of Newtown, but i can see why you compared it to melbourne, also makes sense that you liked it in that case.

But thats only a tiny fraction of the city, there's a much broader scope than that.

Melbourne is by some great distance, the cultural capital of Australia. It's also, to a lesser degree, the sporting capital.
During the summer there is a large scale, free festival on at least every other weekend, Moomba, Spanish street party, White Night etc. You are never stuck for something to do, the city is packed full of entertainment.

The same could be said for Sydney, and Australia in general.
At the moment there's the vivid light festival, the comedy festival is just over, the sydney festival was before that, etc. There's just plenty to do in most places in australia.

The people are also far more open minded and liberal, and are very welcoming and friendly compared to Sydneysiders, who would sometimes struggle to give you the time of day.

Depends where you are tbh, city verses suburbs etc.
Sometimes I think people are rude, which annoys me. But sometimes intrusively friendly people in shops annoy me too.
Maybe it's me, or maybe its people.

For a city of 4 million people, it's also very easy to get around, compared to Sydney, which is disjointed and a bit all over the place. Depending on where you live, you have to get a train aswell as a bus to get anywhere, which is a massive pain in the arse if your going to be working.

The trains in sydney are pretty good. If you are living near a station and working in the CBH (covers a lot of people) you are pretty sorted.

My favourite thing about Melbourne though is the way that the inner suburbs each have a different personality. A night out in Fitzroy is very different to a night out on Chapel Street which is different again to a night out in the CBD. You just don't get that kind of diversity in Sydney. Also, to live in each suburb is a different experience, whereas Sydney is all a bit samey.

I understand that you prefer Melbourne and are trying to paint it in the best light. But come on, you are just making up stuff now. Where have you had nights out in Sydney?

Newtown
The Rocks
The City
Kings Cross
Surrey Hills
Oxford street.

There's 6 diverse area for a start.

Having said all that though, younger people, usually in their very early 20's seem to prefer Sydney. Me and most people I have met over here - Melbourne every day of the week.

I'm in my 20s, so maybe that it.

Xavi6

Couldn't handle the weather in Melbourne personally so that'd be a big factor in choosing Sydney if I were to move from the west.

L'prof

Xavi6 wrote: »

Couldn't handle the weather in Melbourne personally so that'd be a big factor in choosing Sydney if I were to move from the west.

The weather in Melbourne? I haven't had a problem with it at all. In what way? Is Sydney warmer all year round or what?

Lucifer-0

L'prof wrote: »

The weather in Melbourne? I haven't had a problem with it at all. In what way? Is Sydney warmer all year round or what?

Pretty much.

L'prof

Coming from Ireland, the weather in Melbourne is fantastic I landed in time for a hot Christmas and while it is cold these days, it very rarely rains so I'm happy out!

Xavi6

L'prof wrote: »

The weather in Melbourne? I haven't had a problem with it at all. In what way? Is Sydney warmer all year round or what?

I've lived in the WA sun for six years so if I wanted cold and four seasons in one day I'd be home in Ireland

Just mentioning it as a possible factor as the OP is moving from west to east.

L'prof

Xavi6 wrote: »

I've lived in the WA sun for six years so if I wanted cold and four seasons in one day I'd be home in Ireland

Just mentioning it as a possible factor as the OP is moving from west to east.

The summer was a little too much for me to be honest, i didnt think it would get this cold though. I'm surprised you're not home because of the football alone, I gave up trying to watch it over here. Can't wait to get back for next season!

sin_city

It rains a lot more in Sydney than it does in Melbourne. If you like waxing your chest, spray tan, spiky hair and if you dont like sport...go to Sydney

6ix

It would take Irish people to make a parochial debate out of this! Both cities have their merits, and you can largely have a very similar lifestyle in both. I have heard these conversations before, with people trying to claim one place is better than the other, but it's completely subjective and mostly a load of nonsense.

Sydney is a city with a larger population than all of Ireland. If you can't find diversity and activities/festivals there, then it says more about you than the place itself. The same goes for Melbourne of course, I just noticed Sydney being mentioned here. In my own limited experience, I've heard more Melbourne based people criticising Sydney than the other way around but I guess you always see the largest city being slagged in most countries - Dublin, London etc, same here!

The_Hustler

I think this has been an unusual year in that Melbourne has had great weather and very little rain for quite a while now.

I am feeling the cold at the moment though

sin_city

One of the reasons that Sydney is how it is, is the fact that it was not planned as a city in comparison to Melbourne. Melbourne is more organised and easier to get around. Maybe this is why it is more chilled out.

People are nicer in Melbourne in my opinion.

One of my strongest memories of Sydney was on George Street outside a cafe. Someone was involved in a bad accident and there was blood on the road. A large bunch of people were recording the action on their phone.

Another memory I have is visiting and meeting a friend who also lives in Melbourne by change on the street. He had a similar opinion to me on Sydney having lived there for a year. For such a big city....nothing happens there. Manly is ok and the CBD looks nice but it's a pretty dull place for 4.5 million people.


In Melbourne I cycle to work 10k every day along the river. You couldn't do this in Sydney if you worked in the CBD. There's a buzz in the city around the MCG, Etihad or Aami Park during the games. Big buzz during the tennis and Grand Prix. Buzz during the Melbourne Cup. There's more art and music. Buskers on the street.

Melbourne really has a lot more going for it.

jackbhoy

sin_city wrote: »

One of the reasons that Sydney is how it is, is the fact that it was not planned as a city in comparison to Melbourne. Melbourne is more organised and easier to get around.

Surely topography is the main reason for this? Sydney is hilly and tracts of the city are dissected by bays etc, greater Melbourne is pretty much entirely flat. Makes it much easier to build transport infrastructure etc.

Personally, I love Melbourne and I don't think I would live in any of the other big cities but as others have said it is very subjective and I know lots of people who would never leave Sydney.

I think the only real way to decide is to spend a decent amount of time in each and see how they stack up for you.

hussey

sin_city wrote: »

One of the reasons that Sydney is how it is, is the fact that it was not planned as a city in comparison to Melbourne. Melbourne is more organised and easier to get around. Maybe this is why it is more chilled out.

Sydney is pretty easy to get around, trains, buses etc.

People are nicer in Melbourne in my opinion.

Depends which part of Melbourne I guess, In sydney most Irish people live near the rich areas (eastern suburbs) and locals can be snobby.
But that isn't to say Sydney isn't nice, I lived in inner west for 6 years and people were very friendly.

One of my strongest memories of Sydney was on George Street outside a cafe. Someone was involved in a bad accident and there was blood on the road. A large bunch of people were recording the action on their phone.

And?? ... That can happen anywhere, this isn't a reflection of Sydney, more society

Another memory I have is visiting and meeting a friend who also lives in Melbourne by change on the street. He had a similar opinion to me on Sydney having lived there for a year. For such a big city....nothing happens there. Manly is ok and the CBD looks nice but it's a pretty dull place for 4.5 million people.

If he thinks Manly is 'okay' and sydney is dull, probably reflects more on him that Sydney.
I mean nothing happens here, no sydney festival, no vivid, no shows, no festivals, no summer concerts in domain, no food & wine festival, no comedy, no sporting events ... nothing really.

In Melbourne I cycle to work 10k every day along the river. You couldn't do this in Sydney if you worked in the CBD. There's a buzz in the city around the MCG, Etihad or Aami Park during the games. Big buzz during the tennis and Grand Prix. Buzz during the Melbourne Cup. There's more art and music. Buskers on the street.

You can cycle along the coast - pyrmont, rozelle, glebe, elizabeth bay, rose bay etc.

Melbourne really has a lot more going for it.

I love Melbourne and think it's a great city, but it's all subjective, as I said before, experience both and judge for yourself.

sin_city

hussey wrote: »

Sydney is pretty easy to get around, trains, buses etc.

Sydney has a good train system...aside from that it's not easy to get around.


Depends which part of Melbourne I guess, In sydney most Irish people live near the rich areas (eastern suburbs) and locals can be snobby.
But that isn't to say Sydney isn't nice, I lived in inner west for 6 years and people were very friendly.

I lived in Burwood and Strathfield for 6 months, worked in Parramatta and the city and went out all over the city from the east to West and up to the central coast. I found people not friendly at all in the inner west. Instead of saying where people are friendly tell me where you think they are not. Let's be honest, not everyone can be friendly.


And?? ... That can happen anywhere, this isn't a reflection of Sydney, more society

It wouldn't happen back home


If he thinks Manly is 'okay' and sydney is dull, probably reflects more on him that Sydney.
I mean nothing happens here, no sydney festival, no vivid, no shows, no festivals, no summer concerts in domain, no food & wine festival, no comedy, no sporting events ... nothing really.

Whatever happens in Sydney, chances are Melbourne has a better version of it. That's what this discussion is about.



You can cycle along the coast - pyrmont, rozelle, glebe, elizabeth bay, rose bay etc.

True, but you'd do well to cycle from Burwood to the city. Sydney's cycling is more for leisure than practical use as Melbourne's are


I love Melbourne and think it's a great city, but it's all subjective, as I said before, experience both and judge for yourself.

As I said, I lived in Sydney for a year and Melbourne for 2.

hussey

sin_city wrote: »

Sydney has a good train system...aside from that it's not easy to get around.

melbourne has a tram system, aside from that it's not easy to get around.
not really an argument to take away the best feature.
You can get from Burwood to city in 15mins, sounds okay to me.
20mins on parramatta road, compare that to 12km outside melbourne and you'll probably find it similar

I lived in Burwood and Strathfield for 6 months, worked in Parramatta and the city and went out all over the city from the east to West and up to the central coast. I found people not friendly at all in the inner west. Instead of saying where people are friendly tell me where you think they are not. Let's be honest, not everyone can be friendly.

No not everyone can be friendly, but for every unfriendly person in Sydney there will be someone in Melbourne (or Perth, or dublin) who is just as unfriendly. But saying that I find the eastern suburbs can be very pretentious

It wouldn't happen back home

I thought we were comparing Melbourne and Sydney? and to say Irish people (or people from Melbourne) would never record a traffic accident is pretty silly.

Whatever happens in Sydney, chances are Melbourne has a better version of it. That's what this discussion is about.

In your opinion - which is my point, opinions are subjective.

I'm trying to tell the OP to try both cities and give both a try

danotroy

hussey wrote: »

melbourne has a tram system, aside from that it's not easy to get around.
not really an argument to take away the best feature.
You can get from Burwood to city in 15mins, sounds okay to me.
20mins on parramatta road, compare that to 12km outside melbourne and you'll probably find it similar

melbourne has a train service too?

not going to categorically state which city is better as it is entirly subjective but in my opinion alot more happens in Melbourne. But if my mother came to visit id bring her to sydney to see the sights.

mise_me_fein3

You're right Hussey...Sydney is great.

OP go to Sydney

Stevie888

Mellor wrote: »

No, to put it simply. If the majority of people preferred to live in Melbourne, they wouldn't have chosen elsewhere. Obviously some people didn't have much of a choice in the matter. But there's of plenty of us here that did. Most likely, the entire forum did.


The beaches are one of best aspects of the Australian lifestyle. Why would any sane person "take them away" when evaluating a city. For nice beaches, Sydney all day long.


The rocks has some great restaurants and pubs but its expensive.
I'm not a fan of Newtown, but i can see why you compared it to melbourne, also makes sense that you liked it in that case.

But thats only a tiny fraction of the city, there's a much broader scope than that.


The same could be said for Sydney, and Australia in general.
At the moment there's the vivid light festival, the comedy festival is just over, the sydney festival was before that, etc. There's just plenty to do in most places in australia.


Depends where you are tbh, city verses suburbs etc.
Sometimes I think people are rude, which annoys me. But sometimes intrusively friendly people in shops annoy me too.
Maybe it's me, or maybe its people.

The trains in sydney are pretty good. If you are living near a station and working in the CBH (covers a lot of people) you are pretty sorted.


I understand that you prefer Melbourne and are trying to paint it in the best light. But come on, you are just making up stuff now. Where have you had nights out in Sydney?

Newtown
The Rocks
The City
Kings Cross
Surrey Hills
Oxford street.

There's 6 diverse area for a start.



I'm in my 20s, so maybe that it.

But wasn’t the original quote “the majority of people who have lived in both”? I don’t think there has been millions who have to be honest!

Can you really compare the Sydney comedy festival to the 2nd biggest in the world in Melbourne? Or any of the other events such as the Australian Open, Grand Prix or Melbourne Cup, or even White Night? As someone said before, even if you have no interest in any of these, the buzz around the city that these big international events creates is exceptional. Mardi Gras is really the only truly world class event Sydney has, but then again I could be wrong?

The people in Melbourne are far friendlier I have found. I think the vast majority of people who have lived in both would agree. Just as Sydney is known for it’s better beaches, Melbournians are known for being far more down to earth and friendly, and not in the annoying, retail worker kind of way. I’m sure you will disagree, but I think it’s generally accepted as conventional wisdom.

The trains in Sydney are good in the sense that they are on time. It’s more the layout of the city that for me lets it down. Trams, buses, trains, and ferries, all overlapping making it messy and confusing. Melbourne has such a simple system in that the trams are laid out like a cartwheel, with the centre being the CBD, with all the lines spread out from it. It’s very easy to navigate. True, if you live in the CBD in Sydney and also happen to work there, you’re obviously going to be fine. But what if you move around for work? Also, if you live in the CBD, to get to the beaches at Bondi and Coogee you have to get a train and a bus, expensive. And to get to Manly it’s 14.50 return on the ferry! To me that’s extortion.

How would making stuff up benefit me?! Believe me, when I was in Sydney I WANTED to like it! As for the suburbs, I like Newtown, but even a lot of the bars there seemed to have pokies somewhere in them! Kinda ruins it for me.
Kings Cross, jesus christ no. Tacky, awful and unpleasant, and generalizing aside, full of not particularly nice people.
The Rocks, prohibitively expensive.
Surrey Hills and Oxford Street and even the CBD, all just seem a bit samey (and dare I say, yuppy-ish). This is pretty standard for most cities I have been to. I just think Melbourne’s suburbs have far greater diversity, and it’s a pretty unique place in that sense.

I said very early 20’s.

Stevie888

hussey wrote: »

melbourne has a tram system, aside from that it's not easy to get around.

Melbourne has been named worlds most liveable city 2 years in a row, one of the criteria for this was public transport, so according to the Economist magazine you are wrong. Leaving this aside, as this thread is about everyones personal opinions, can you give me an example of how Melbourne is not easy to get around? I'm genuinely interested. For a city of 4 million people, I really can't see an obvious single fault in this regard!

danotroy

Stevie888 wrote: »

Melbourne has been named worlds most liveable city 2 years in a row, one of the criteria for this was public transport, so according to the Economist magazine you are wrong. Leaving this aside, as this thread is about everyones personal opinions, can you give me an example of how Melbourne is not easy to get around? I'm genuinely interested. For a city of 4 million people, I really can't see an obvious single fault in this regard!

The only fault i have with the transport system in melbourne is the fact that rush hour is just way to crowded. However it has made me change my travel behaviour.

hussey

Stevie888 wrote: »

Melbourne has been named worlds most liveable city 2 years in a row, one of the criteria for this was public transport, so according to the Economist magazine you are wrong. Leaving this aside, as this thread is about everyones personal opinions, can you give me an example of how Melbourne is not easy to get around? I'm genuinely interested. For a city of 4 million people, I really can't see an obvious single fault in this regard!

Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear in my point, the poster stated that if you take away the trains in sydney it's hard to get around, my point is that if you take away any mode of transportation from any city you can deem it hard to get around.
So say "aside from the trains" it's hard to get around is silly, and I countered this with a "aside from trams" arguement, which rightfully you thought was silly, which was the point I intended.
I think Sydney is easy to get around, and so is melbourne.

Stevie888

danotroy wrote: »

The only fault i have with the transport system in melbourne is the fact that rush hour is just way to crowded. However it has made me change my travel behaviour.

True Dano, it can get a little crowded during rush hour, it never really bothered me though. I have found if you live in the inner suburbs and take the tram your usually home in 20 mins anyway, and if you live futher away and take the train, they usually empty out after the first 3 - 4 stops.

Mellor

Stevie888 wrote: »

But wasn’t the original quote “the majority of people who have lived in both”? I don’t think there has been millions who have to be honest!

It was hyperbole to highlight that lots of people prefer sydney.

Can you really compare the Sydney comedy festival to the 2nd biggest in the world in Melbourne?

I have assume that Montreal and Edinburgh were the biggest. Melbourne may well be next, doesn't mean that individual shows are better. I find aussie comics a but weird, and the big international acts normally play both.

Regardless, it's an example of one if the hundreds of events in both cities each year.

Or any of the other events such as the Australian Open, Grand Prix or Melbourne Cup, or even White Night? As someone said before, even if you have no interest in any of these, the buzz around the city that these big international events creates is exceptional. Mardi Gras is really the only truly world class event Sydney has, but then again I could be wrong?

The UFC has held events in sydney twice (third one later this year). It won't go to Melbourne. MMA in general is terrible in Melbourne.
Maybe it's not a sport you personally follow, but its an example. NRL is another.

True, if you live in the CBD in Sydney and also happen to work there, you’re obviously going to be fine. But what if you move around for work?

I said if you live on a train line and work in the CBD.

If you move around for work I'd suggest a car.

Also, if you live in the CBD, to get to the beaches at Bondi and Coogee you have to get a train and a bus, expensive.

Just a bus to coogee when I lived there

How would making stuff up benefit me?! Believe me, when I was in Sydney I WANTED to like it! As for the suburbs, I like Newtown, but even a lot of the bars there seemed to have pokies somewhere in them! Kinda ruins it for me. [/FONT][/SIZE]
Kings Cross, jesus christ no. Tacky, awful and unpleasant, and generalizing aside, full of not particularly nice people.
The Rocks, prohibitively expensive.
Surrey Hills and Oxford Street and even the CBD, all just seem a bit samey (and dare I say, yuppy-ish). This is pretty standard for most cities I have been to. I just think Melbourne’s suburbs have far greater diversity, and it’s a pretty unique place in that sense.

I wouldn't expect anyone to like all those places. It was just an example of various different nights out you could have.



I'm not trying to convince you or anyone that sydney is better. I'm just pointing out that each city has advantages, and both have plenty to do. The OP should ideally try both, but if he can't at least the differences are mentioned here.

Some perspective, both cities are regularly in the top ten lists at round the world. Arguing over which is best is a bit silly considering some of the places you could be holed up.

danotroy

Mellor wrote: »

The UFC has held events in sydney twice (third one later this year). It won't go to Melbourne. MMA in general is terrible in Melbourne.
Maybe it's not a sport you personally follow, but its an example. NRL is another.

are the reigning NRL champs from melbourne? granted the afl champs are from sydney

sin_city

If NRL is so good why dont Sydney people go to watch it like Victorians watch AFL?

Lesser game or lesser fans....maybe a bit of both.

Will Heffernan

Mellor wrote: »

The UFC has held events in sydney twice (third one later this year).

Bad weekend for 'adopted' Aussie fighters

It won't go to Melbourne.

The UFC are putting a lot of effort into trying to get to Melbourne. You can guarantee that when the legislation changes to remove the ban on conducting MMA in a cage the UFC will be in Melbourne as soon as possible after that...if and when that happens you can also guarantee that it will be a way bigger deal here than any show held in Sydney.

MMA in general is terrible in Melbourne.

Terrible is a big call. I would agree that MMA is better in Sydney because of the concentration of fighters there but I wouldn't say Melbourne MMA is terrible.

Maybe it's not a sport you personally follow, but its an example. NRL is another.

Melbourne is a very different place to Sydney from a sporting perspective. I was at a sporting event in Sydney only a couple of weeks ago and got to screaming and yelling at those around me only to find that all the people I was screaming at were Melbournian's and none of us had real 'skin in the game' we were all just 'professional' supporters of all sport if you know what I mean.

I live and work in Melbourne, Canberra and Sydney and they all have things going for them...from my point of view and preferences I would rank them in that order.

Mellor

Will Heffernan wrote: »

Bad weekend for 'adopted' Aussie fighters

A good weekend for Whitaker though. Maybe the bad luck was only for adopted Kiwis.

The UFC are putting a lot of effort into trying to get to Melbourne. You can guarantee that when the legislation changes to remove the ban on conducting MMA in a cage the UFC will be in Melbourne as soon as possible after that...if and when that happens you can also guarantee that it will be a way bigger deal here than any show held in Sydney.

Absolutely, when the rules are changed they'll definitely come but victoria needs to change the rules for them. They won't be lobbying like the NewYork situation.

If its changed it'll be a decent event on par with other international cards. Wont be a massive card. But it's not happening right now. Which was the point of the thread. The differences between the cities.

Terrible is a big call. I would agree that MMA is better in Sydney because of the concentration of fighters there but I wouldn't say Melbourne MMA is terrible.

To clarify, I'm taking about the regulations and restrictions being terrible for the sport. I wasn't having a shot at Vic based fighters or clubs.

Will Heffernan

Mellor wrote: »

A good weekend for Whitaker though. Maybe the bad luck was only for adopted Kiwis.

Yes, agreed.

Absolutely, when the rules are changed they'll definitely come but victoria needs to change the rules for them. They won't be lobbying like the NewYork situation.

Agreed. It will be for 'us' to do and them for 'them' to take advantage of the opportunity.

If its changed it'll be a decent event on par with other international cards. Wont be a massive card. But it's not happening right now. Which was the point of the thread. The differences between the cities.

The thing is...it wouldn't matter what the card was like...I would be happy to make a small wager that when there's an event here in Melbourne that it will be the fastest sell out in history such will be the appetite here.

To clarify, I'm taking about the regulations and restrictions being terrible for the sport. I wasn't having a shot at Vic based fighters or clubs.

I see what you mean but as someone who's trained in both Sydney and Melbourne I would say that I think the 'general' standard that I've experienced is higher in Sydney than in Melbourne. Just my opinion and based on my experience.