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What would you do?

  • 22-05-2013 5:14pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭


    Short and sweet 50km today, nice enough out.

    Spin completely ruined by an outrageous bus driver..overtook me going 50km/h+ (while I was doing close to that aswel) and pushed me so close to the kerb that I couldn't complete a full turn of the crank. Try and imagine this with a several tonne bus less that half a foot away from you. Did this 2-3 more times while turning the bus at me to make sure I couldn't pass him :|

    He was driving a white bus but had a Bus Eireann cardboard thing in his windscreen. I have his number plate and picture of the driver..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    Zyzz wrote: »
    Short and sweet 50km today, nice enough out.

    Spin completely ruined by an outrageous bus driver..overtook me going 50km/h+ (while I was doing close to that aswel) and pushed me so close to the kerb that I couldn't complete a full turn of the crank. Try and imagine this with a several tonne bus less that half a foot away from you. Did this 2-3 more times while turning the bus at me to make sure I couldn't pass him :|

    He was driving a white bus but had a Bus Eireann cardboard thing in his windscreen. I have his number plate and picture of the driver..

    I would have slowed down, and not attempt to pass the bus after the first time. It was dangerous on his part by not overtaking your completely (which I gather from the fact that he didn't give enough room and pushed you over).

    However, I would say it was equally dangerous of you not to put yourself out of harms way. No point in getting yourself killed to prove a point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    I would have slowed down, and not attempt to pass the bus after the first time. It was dangerous on his part by not overtaking your completely (which I gather from the fact that he didn't give enough room and pushed you over).

    We were taking the same route, but he had a couple of stops to take on/let off passengers. I had the tailwind which is why I had a relatively high speed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭snollup


    Personally I would report him both to Eireann & the guards.

    Not sure how much joy you'll get as it will be your word against his.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    snollup wrote: »

    @unregistered, I think it was the bus doing the overtaking.

    Yes, but it doesn't mean that Zyzz shouldn't mitigate some risk.

    I 100% agree that the driver was careless and should be reported. I'm just saying if you are in such dangerous situation, it's better to err on the side of caution IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    snollup wrote: »
    Personally I would report him both to Eireann & the guards.

    Not sure how much joy you'll get as it will be your word against his.

    That is an option..but as I've read many times on here before all that will happen is an apology from BE and numerous weeks of back and forth crap from the Guards..with no outcome. Pity I didn't have the camera on me tonight :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭CardinalJ


    After the second time I probably would have lost it to be honest.

    If' you're home now and still think he was driving that dangerously I'd report him to the Guards and Bus Eireann.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,526 ✭✭✭✭Darkglasses


    snollup wrote: »
    Personally I would report him both to Eireann & the guards.

    Not sure how much joy you'll get as it will be your word against his.

    This. I'd personally go to Bus Eireann first, see if they'll deal with it internally. The Gardai will almost certainly be able to do **** all. But maybe others here will know more than me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭Unregistered.


    Zyzz wrote: »
    ...all that will happen is an apology from BE and numerous weeks of back and forth crap from the Guards..with no outcome...

    Even if the driver just gets a telling off, it would be a welcome outcome. He might change his attitude and/or awareness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    Through phone/email or go to them (wherever that is)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭galwaycyclist


    Zyzz wrote: »
    He was driving a white bus but had a Bus Eireann cardboard thing in his windscreen. I have his number plate and picture of the driver..

    How did you manage to get a picture of the driver?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    How did you manage to get a picture of the driver?

    We were stopped at a set of lights and I pulled out my iPhone, I took two pics of him then he rolled down his window and told me that 'I should get a frame'. I asked numerous times if he could give me his name but no.. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    Many of the busses have onboard cameras, you need to report it very soon as they are wiped after a day or so. Had a similar incident a number of years ago. Bus driver get a bonus (as far as i know) if they don't get into an accident, at least report him so he loosees it, it'll teach him not to be a dick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    Andy-Pandy wrote: »
    Many of the busses have onboard cameras, you need to report it very soon as they are wiped after a day or so. Had a similar incident a number of years ago. Bus driver get a bonus (as far as i know) if they don't get into an accident, at least report him so he loosees it, it'll teach him not to be a dick.

    May I ask who you reported it to and how? Should I just send an email to Bus Eireann?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Ole Rodrigo


    As a matter of courtesy as well as safety, you should slow down and let the driver pass. He maybe trying to overtake, if you go faster he wont be able to complete the manoeuvre and will get ( understandably ) frustrated. Large vehicles cannot accelerate quickly - just brake and its solved, get behind him and draft for a while and move up the strava leaderboard. Everybody wins :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭Dermot Illogical


    I'd be taking the lane completely after the 1st time tbh.
    You should report him. He sounds too stupid to understand how dangerous his driving is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    Email sent to Bus Eireann, if no reply I'll phone them and/or pay them a visit!
    ror_74 wrote: »
    As a matter of courtesy as well as safety, you should slow down and let the driver pass. He maybe trying to overtake, if you go faster he wont be able to complete the manoeuvre and will get ( understandably ) frustrated. Large vehicles cannot accelerate quickly - just brake and its solved, get behind him and draft for a while and move up the strava leaderboard. Everybody wins :)

    It was a single lane for about 100m and I was overtaking another cyclist. He was several metres behind me at this point and then sped up to overtake me. This was done through a junction with no cycle lane..

    (the road in question is outside the Institute heading towards Donnybrook for anyone that knows it)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Ole Rodrigo


    If it was me I would try and stay out of his way by pushing on ahead or slowing to allow him passage. He is just trying to get to next stop on time for his passengers. If you are riding at 40 kmph +, you are too slow to not be in his way and too fast for him to overtake comfortably.

    Of course, thats not to excuse poor behaviour on his part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    ror_74 wrote: »
    If it was me I would try and stay out of his way by pushing on ahead or slowing to allow him passage. He is just trying to get to next stop on time for his passengers. If you are riding at 40 kmph +, you are too slow to not be in his way and too fast for him to overtake comfortably.

    Of course, thats not to excuse poor behaviour on his part.

    I fully understand where you are coming from, but if I'm not mistaken that stretch has a 50km/h speed limit so why risk my life with an overtake to pull in another 100m or so down the road? A little bit of patience from the driver and there would have been 0 issues :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭Ole Rodrigo


    Zyzz wrote: »
    I fully understand where you are coming from, but if I'm not mistaken that stretch has a 50km/h speed limit so why risk my life with an overtake to pull in another 100m or so down the road? A little bit of patience from the driver and there would have been 0 issues :o

    I know the road well and like other parts of the city centre it has a low speed limit that is routinely ignored, especially going the other way into the green. I doubt he would too bothered if he went over 50 to overtake, its how quickly he can do it thats key. He may have misjudged your speed and got frustrated.

    I'd hazzard a guess that if he was here he would say that you were risking your own life by getting in his way. Thats' not to say he would be right to say so, but how it might have looked from his POV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭robertxxx


    Press the cut off switch on the side or back of the buss to piss him off, then attack him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Zyzz


    robertxxx wrote: »
    Press the cut off switch on the side or back of the buss to piss him off, then attack him.

    A several tonne bus vs a 8kg bike..you better watch out, the damage I can do! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,085 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Zyzz wrote: »
    Email sent to Bus Eireann, if no reply I'll phone them and/or pay them a visit!

    You are wasting your time, as per your description that was not a Bus Eireann vehicle or driver so there is no chance of you getting anything by contacting them.


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