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supplying water to fields

  • 22-05-2013 10:39am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭


    Hi Lads,
    i have to supply water to a field that's 700m away from the nearest water connection, bascially want to know whats the best way of doing this.
    if anyone has idea's please let me know.
    the ground is stony in parts so not sure if one of those mole ploughs would do the job. a mini digger might be the way to go.
    i've never used a mole plough, would a 70hp 2wd tractor manage to bury pipes?
    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 827 ✭✭✭ABlur


    jfh wrote: »
    Hi Lads,
    i have to supply water to a field that's 700m away from the nearest water connection, bascially want to know whats the best way of doing this.
    if anyone has idea's please let me know.
    the ground is stony in parts so not sure if one of those mole ploughs would do the job. a mini digger might be the way to go.
    i've never used a mole plough, would a 70hp 2wd tractor manage to bury pipes?
    thanks

    Do your really need to bury it? We just run it along by the ditches here overground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭jfh


    ABlur wrote: »
    Do your really need to bury it? We just run it along by the ditches here overground.

    yeah i suggested that, but the bossman wants it buried, prob the best thing considering the 2 winters before last.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    jfh wrote: »
    yeah i suggested that, but the bossman wants it buried, prob the best thing considering the 2 winters before last.

    if the land is a bit stoney hire in a lad with a digger and dig a good deep trench and drop your hose into it. Have buryied a good few hoses over the years after they got caught by plows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Lucena


    My dad used to run a plastic pipe across the ditches, it was probably about 500 metres worth. Lost a lot of pressure in the pipe but the water still came out the far end. Is it really worth burying for the odd cold winter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    option 1
    is hire a lad with Pole plough to do it. €45 an hour i guess?
    - 1 pass and ground is not

    option 2.
    Mini digger. you need to dig at minmum a 10inch trench. (any smaller the bucket will get cloggled with clay and break your heart) lay pipe and then come back and cover the trench and pick stones and throw a bit of grass seed into the covered up trench. Hire a digger for €100 a day, should do in a day, €25 diesel and €30 for grass seed. so €155

    So question is would a mole plough do 700m in 4 hours

    could you get the digger for a full weekend and use it elsewhere to put up a few gate RSJ or tidy a drain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭Sami23


    IMO, I would'nt bother burying it at all. Will save money too. I have a half inch light hydrodare pipe supplying a water trough for last 10 years I'd say and no problem with it at all. Just runs along the ditch/wall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭dzer2


    We only bury ours where it goes under the road way and at that we have ducting to push it through. Its 1 1/3miles from the well to the last trough and we never have had a problem. most important to be able to turn off the water a different intervals along the way though. Inthe winter we turn off the supply to the fields and empty the troughs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Viewtodiefor


    dzer2 wrote: »
    We only bury ours where it goes under the road way and at that we have ducting to push it through. Its 1 1/3miles from the well to the last trough and we never have had a problem. most important to be able to turn off the water a different intervals along the way though. Inthe winter we turn off the supply to the fields and empty the troughs.


    Op will you have cattle out there over the winter? If not definitely no need to bury it. If the old man is worried about frost bursting it then put a ball valve on it and turn it off then disconnect it that way the water if freezes can expand ( the expansion when freezing is what bursts pies n fittings not frost per say)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Milton09


    jfh wrote: »
    Hi Lads,
    i have to supply water to a field that's 700m away from the nearest water connection, bascially want to know whats the best way of doing this.
    if anyone has idea's please let me know.
    the ground is stony in parts so not sure if one of those mole ploughs would do the job. a mini digger might be the way to go.
    i've never used a mole plough, would a 70hp 2wd tractor manage to bury pipes?
    thanks

    I would say if you can at all, bury it. There is nothing more hateful than a plastic pipe running overground to a drinker. Guaranteed, someone will pick it up with a hedgecutter or get stuck in it with a haybob or even cattle shift it when walking over it.

    I've buried pipe with a mole plough before in stony ground at about 20".
    2 wheel drive will not work, wont have the grip if you want to go deep.
    A decent four wheel drive well shod should cover 700m in well under an hour if the going is straight forward. i.e don't have to cross drains etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭MANSFIELD


    Use heavy gauge pipe if the ground is stony. Normal gauge pipe will get cut pretty easy in stony ground.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 508 ✭✭✭Alibaba


    Sami23 wrote: »
    IMO, I would'nt bother burying it at all. Will save money too. I have a half inch light hydrodare pipe supplying a water trough for last 10 years I'd say and no problem with it at all. Just runs along the ditch/wall

    I've the same set up.
    Just drain off the water in the winter months when the cattle go in to stop freezing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭jfh


    thanks for all the reply's lads, seems the way to go is to lay it along the ditch & drain off in the winter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭Sami23


    jfh wrote: »
    thanks for all the reply's lads, seems the way to go is to lay it along the ditch & drain off in the winter.

    What 'inch' hydrodare are you goin to use and will you use light or heavy gauge ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    Sami23 wrote: »
    IMO, I would'nt bother burying it at all. Will save money too. I have a half inch light hydrodare pipe supplying a water trough for last 10 years I'd say and no problem with it at all. Just runs along the ditch/wall

    Half inch water pipe over700 mtrs would really slow down the flow, better to go with 3/4 or 1''


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭jfh


    i think it's 3/4 inch we have a roll of much check it out this eve.


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