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not enough scart slots (old tv)

  • 22-05-2013 12:25am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26


    I have recently cancelled sky and was hoping to get the free to air channels with the sky box and a saorview box but am having trouble connecting the two.
    Basically, the TV has only one scart socket and one aerial connection.
    Can I connect the saorview box in-line with the sky box? and which side of the skybox do I put the saorview box?
    I'm thinking aerial into sky box, from there to saorview with co-ax and from there to TV with co-ax. The sky box will be connected by the scart.
    I have tried RF to saorview direct to TV with co-ax but that didn't work at all.

    Is there a way to do this with only one scart socket and only one co-ax socket?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭steveon


    Hi Paddy there are a number of options available to you.

    You could get a scart switching box, this will allow you to connect one or more devices using scart to the tv. You simply press the button to the corresponding box u wish to view on the tv.

    http://www.pixmania.ie/ie/uk/2896971/art/cables-4-all/3-way-scart-switch-box-co.html

    If its a hd tv why not connect the Saorview box via a hdmi lead which will give u a better picture particulary on RTE2 which is now broadcasted in High Definition.

    Alternatively if it is an old sky box with 2 scart sockets on the back of it. Simply connect the saorview box to the skybox using a scartleadto the socket marked vcr. Now simply put the skynox into standby and the saorview box should appear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 Pike Bishop


    Hi I had the same problem.I bought one from Amazon,it was ****e.Then someone mentioned Aldi.I got a Tevion ,it works perfect and was a decent price.Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭mad turnip


    there should be a "VCR" slot on the skybox just plug the saorview box into this, then when the sky box is in standby mode you can watch saorview.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Sorry to bring up an old thread but its related to an issue I have.

    Here goes.

    Have a Thompson Skybox connected to a TV in the kitchen through RF cable(buried in the walls-its an install that's a few years old and the cables were there when we moved in)Magic Eye changes channels-free channels only so no RTE etc.

    Now Ive just been given a Saorview box with no RF out.

    I want to have RTE etc on this TV and was thinking of using the Skyboxes RF out and connecting the Saorview box through the VCR in on the sky box.

    Would this work?

    Meaning that when the Skybox is in standby the Saorview box will work and then if I want to watch the other channels then when the saorview box is off Ill get them.

    Hope Im not confusing anyone-its too early and last nights vodka is making my brain fuzzy!!!

    Its either that or pull the walls apart and run the aerial cable straight to the TV and connected through scart which Ill be murdered for if I start down that road :)

    Help appreciated.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    So there's no problem with having the Saorview box in the kitchen?

    If there is an aerial cable at the Sky box location, carrying the Saorview signal, plug it into the Sky box RF-in & the Saorview signal will then be present on RF1 & RF2. Use RF1 to loop the aerial feed to the 'local' tv or STB. Plug the kitchen RF lead into the Saorview box aerial-in & loop to the tv's aerial input for the analogue Sky RF output. If the kitchen tv doesn't have HDMI, then connect the Saorview box via scart.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    So there's no problem with having the Saorview box in the kitchen?

    Nope Id prefer to have both working though.

    If there is an aerial cable at the Sky box location, carrying the Saorview signal, plug it into the Sky box RF-in & the Saorview signal will then be present on RF1 & RF2.

    The sky box doesn't have RF IN.It has antenna in..is that what you mean?**edit*Apologies it does have RF in.So Im even more lost now??
    Ill loose the sky signal then wont I?

    To clarify.There are 2 lets say cables at the sky box.
    1.From the dish for free channels.
    2.From the saorview aerial.

    I want both working on the same TV.So either looped through Scart via the sky boxes VCR scart or your bethod below.

    Use RF1 to loop the aerial feed to the 'local' tv or STB. Plug the kitchen RF lead into the Saorview box aerial-in & loop to the tv's aerial input for the analogue Sky RF output. If the kitchen tv doesn't have HDMI, then connect the Saorview box via scart.

    Scart isn't really an option(unless I want to start pulling walls apart) as the tv is mounted on the wall with all cables buried except for the RF coax.

    The rf connection from the current sky box is how it feeds the TV--honestly Im not bothered about quality as its been this way for years and I have the 2 HDTVs in other rooms.I was hoping that there was a way to use the saorview box through the sky box so that the saorview box will output through the sky boxes RF OUT.

    Either that or a RF modulator with 2 inputs to one RF output seems to be my only other option.

    Make sense?Im even confusing myself now!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    If you don't want cables trailing from box to tv, then it would seem the Saorview box will have to be located beside the Sky box, with its output fed along the same cable to the kitchen via a modulator.

    The Triax Tri-link is a modulator that allows you to combine the RF2 feed from the Sky box with its own output, without affecting the 'magic eye' setup in any way.

    Or the modulator output could be fed to the Sky box RF-in. Most other modulators would also have an RF input but wouldn't necessarily pass the remote commands to the Sky box. (BTW, you don't lose the Sky box output when you connect something to RF1.) Even a VCR could perform the modulation function but it's not something you would want taking up space for that reason alone.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    Even a VCR could perform the modulation function but it's not something you would want taking up space for that reason alone.

    That's interesting.Have an old vcr here.And plenty of space.

    VCR a Y rf connector and I could be sorted.Seems the easiest fix.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    You won't be able to control non-Sky equipment from the kitchen, unless you use something like the Tri-link.

    With the VCR, I would connect its RF-out to the Sky box RF-in. Make sure its output channel is at least 2 away from the Sky box channel.

    In all of this, I presume you're 100% certain the kitchen tv doesn't work with Saorview?


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 3,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭St Senan


    OP if you are going to daisy chain the Saorview box through the VCR modulator into the Sky box and feed it to the kitchen, then get a set of powermids to control all your equipment from the kitchen. http://www.reallycleverhomes.co.uk/marmitek-powermid-xl-remote-control-extender-set.html


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    You won't be able to control non-Sky equipment from the kitchen, unless you use something like the Tri-link.

    Been looking at the tri link.Looks like an interesting piece of kit.


    With the VCR, I would connect its RF-out to the Sky box RF-in. Make sure its output channel is at least 2 away from the Sky box channel.

    So Saorview box into vcr scart input.Vcr rf out to sky box rf?
    Would it not make sense to go Saorview scart to vcr scart in and vcr scart out to skybok scart in?

    In all of this, I presume you're 100% certain the kitchen tv doesn't work with Saorview?[/QUOTE]

    It will work with Saorview if I run the aerial cable close enough to use scart / hdmi.

    But that's a huge undertaking.Having to chase walls etc.
    This is a stop gap measure until we redecorate.
    Next time Ill be running cat5 / coax etc to anywhere I think Ill need it in the future.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    So Saorview box into vcr scart input.Vcr rf out to sky box rf?
    Would it not make sense to go Saorview scart to vcr scart in and vcr scart out to skybok scart in?

    No, if the Saorview signal could be fed to the Sky box modulator in this way, there wouldn't be any need for the separate modulator for Saorview.
    It will work with Saorview if I run the aerial cable close enough to use scart / hdmi.

    I was asking if you were sure the tuner in the kitchen tv doesn't work with Saorview. What's the make & model?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    No, if the Saorview signal could be fed to the Sky box modulator in this way, there wouldn't be any need for the separate modulator for Saorview.

    Think that's where I was coming from in the beginning..ie could I use the skybox`s modulator by using the vcr scart in on the skybox?

    I was asking if you were sure the tuner in the kitchen tv doesn't work with Saorview. What's the make & model?

    Its an old 32" bush lcd tv.Too old for saorview.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Think that's where I was coming from in the beginning..ie could I use the skybox`s modulator by using the vcr scart in on the skybox?

    You could try it. The only way you can shut off the output from the satellite tuner would be to put the box in standby & I'm pretty sure that just shuts off all modulated output.


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