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Age Gap

  • 19-05-2013 10:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Female.

    I got asked out to dinner by a 33 year old, I'm 23.

    He seems like a nice guy, I've known him to see for a few months and he comes across well, although we've only spoken once or twice.

    Well he asked me out and I'm conscious as to why. I'm wondering why a 33 year old man would want to go out with a 23 year old girl? Is he not concerned about getting stick off his mates, or is he just looking for sex?

    I definitely am not prepared to ask him what his intentions are as that will be very off putting, but then again I do not know how I will be able to tell.

    In his texts he has mentioned various places that he would like to take me for dinner some time. I don't know if that's just talk to butter me up though?

    Would anyone have an opinion on this? I would have thought a relationship with a girl who is 10 years younger than you would generally be frowned upon.


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  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,914 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I'm wondering why a 33 year old man would want to go out with a 23 year old girl?

    Just for a start - you are no longer "a girl" - you are "a woman" :D) You might still feel like a teenager, but you are actually an adult! (at 23 I had a mortgage!! - and that's not all that long ago ;))

    It shouldn't matter to you what anyone else thinks. Basically it should just come down to whether or not you want to go for dinner with him.

    As for whatever ulterior motives he has, you won't know unless you go out for dinner. He may have no ulterior motive. He may just want to go out and get to know you. He may like you enough to want to start a relationship. He may want to flatter you a bit, and then have sex with you... but you don't have to have sex with him, if you don't want to. You can always decline, if he suggests it.

    If you don't want to go out with him, say no.
    If you think you might have a good time, say yes.
    If he tries anything on that you are not comfortable with, say no.
    If he is the perfect gentleman, and you enjoy yourself... well then, who knows?!

    Edit: And in a few short years, 33 won't seem that old to you, either!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭Ah_Yeah


    My boyfriend is 31, and I'm 23. My mother is 10 years older than her partner. Age is all relative these days, and the only people it should matter to are the people in the relationship. If you like him, go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,830 ✭✭✭✭Taltos


    I got asked out to dinner by a 33 year old, I'm 23.
    Not all that unusual, some men in their 30s are more attracted to women in their 20s and vice-versa. At least you are both adults.
    He seems like a nice guy, I've known him to see for a few months and he comes across well, although we've only spoken once or twice.
    Not sure how you can really tell if he is genuinely a nice guy if you've only spoken to him twice in a few months. However, hopefully you have a gut feeling to go by.
    Well he asked me out and I'm conscious as to why. I'm wondering why a 33 year old man would want to go out with a 23 year old girl? Is he not concerned about getting stick off his mates, or is he just looking for sex?
    OK - right here - this is why you should actually say NO. Referring to yourself as a girl compared to him as a man indicates that emotionally you are just not ready for a relationship with him. Going into a date second guessing or holding some weird barometer to his actions is just wrong. Let him down and hopefully he can find someone on the same wavelength as him.

    I definitely am not prepared to ask him what his intentions are as that will be very off putting, but then again I do not know how I will be able to tell.
    Again, why not? You are both adults so why not have this chat? "Looking forward to dinner and getting to know you over the next while, but it's only fair to let you know I like to take things slowly!"
    In his texts he has mentioned various places that he would like to take me for dinner some time. I don't know if that's just talk to butter me up though?

    Would anyone have an opinion on this? I would have thought a relationship with a girl who is 10 years younger than you would generally be frowned upon.
    Could be, who knows, some guys will do this in an effort to impress but again referring to yourself as a girl is saying more about you and your readiness for this so as above, just politely decline and tell him that right now you are not available. No need to expand onto the why here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,673 ✭✭✭Stavro Mueller


    A 23 year old could ask you out and have ulterior motives too. The way you're talking about this guy, you'd think he was a predator or something. Based solely on his age?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    Maybe he wants to have dinner with you, as opposed to "a 23 year old".

    Just sayin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭ManOfMystery


    I'm a bit surprised by your reaction, that you think there's some ulterior motive here. He's 33, you're 23. You're both adults. It's not like a 50yr old man asking out a 16yr old girl.

    In this day and age the 'generation gaps' are getting smaller. There's absolutely no reason why two people (one 23, one 33) wouldn't get on or have similar tastes in music, culture, whatever.

    If you like him, go on a date. And if you don't like him, then decline. It's that simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thank you all for the replies.

    I slipped up by saying "girl". I didn't expect such a shocked reaction to my post.

    I have had my heart broken too many times so yes, I am wary of guy's intentions on dates. In my experience they have only wanted one thing and when I wasn't prepared to sleep with them so soon they have cut contact. I guess I am hyper cautious now as I do not want my heart to be broken again - as in, if I go through the effort of getting all dolled up etc to find out he doesn't want to see me again because I won't go home with him. That would crush me. I am trying to avoid that from happening, hence I am posting here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭desbrook


    "Is he just looking for sex ? "

    The fact that you even ask this question shows that you would be best not to waste his time. For your information 33 or even 44 yr old women have sex on occasion too not just 23 yr olds like yourself! You don't seem very comfortable with his age at all . Fine, just say no!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭ManOfMystery


    Op_here wrote: »
    Thank you all for the replies.

    I slipped up by saying "girl". I didn't expect such a shocked reaction to my post.

    I have had my heart broken too many times so yes, I am wary of guy's intentions on dates. In my experience they have only wanted one thing and when I wasn't prepared to sleep with them so soon they have cut contact. I guess I am hyper cautious now as I do not want my heart to be broken again - as in, if I go through the effort of getting all dolled up etc to find out he doesn't want to see me again because I won't go home with him. That would crush me. I am trying to avoid that from happening, hence I am posting here.

    That's understandable. And perhaps he is just after sex. But then again, one could argue that men going into their 30s and 40s generally play the field a bit less than younger guys.

    Either way, you said he seems a nice guy and all he's done is ask you out for dinner. If he was making it clear he's only after one thing I could understand your reticience. However, being nice and asking you out to dinner is how anyone with good intentions will start out getting to know you, so unless you want to spend the rest of your life turning down future partners, just be careful you're not over-cautious with every potential suitor that comes your way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    That's understandable. And perhaps he is just after sex. But then again, one could argue that men going into their 30s and 40s generally play the field a bit less than younger guys.

    Either way, you said he seems a nice guy and all he's done is ask you out for dinner. If he was making it clear he's only after one thing I could understand your reticience. However, being nice and asking you out to dinner is how anyone with good intentions will start out getting to know you, so unless you want to spend the rest of your life turning down future partners, just be careful you're not over-cautious with every potential suitor that comes your way.

    Thanks for your reply. You're right, I need to be more positive. I will go on the date and I'll report back here as to how it goes :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    I got asked out to dinner by a 33 year old, I'm 23.

    You're making out like he is 33 and you're 13. Then there would be an issue.

    The fact is that you're both adults and why on earth would he have an ulterior motive other than he fancies you and consequently has asked you out? And he's asked you for dinner which sounds nice, not like it's just a drunken booty call at 2am. To think he's just after sex is a rather strange attitude to have tbh. He may or may not be after something casual but I can't see why on Earth you would equate him asking out for a meal as being only after one thing....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    As a guy in his early thirties, I would never have thought that I would date anyone younger than 26/27 say.

    However I met a 23 year old girl who I completely fell for, she was great in so many ways, we clicked and i really liked everything about her

    I would say that he is really into you, it is possible of course that he is only looking for one thing but guys in their thirties (i know a lot of them) who are single tend not to be like that and generally know what they want

    Honestly i would prefer not to date someone who is 23 but when u meet someone amazing all these things go out the window and you will justify it

    take a chance on him if u like him and think that he likes you, its only dinner after all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭lima


    Female.

    I got asked out to dinner by a 33 year old, I'm 23.

    He seems like a nice guy, I've known him to see for a few months and he comes across well, although we've only spoken once or twice.

    Well he asked me out and I'm conscious as to why. I'm wondering why a 33 year old man would want to go out with a 23 year old girl? Is he not concerned about getting stick off his mates, or is he just looking for sex?

    I definitely am not prepared to ask him what his intentions are as that will be very off putting, but then again I do not know how I will be able to tell.

    In his texts he has mentioned various places that he would like to take me for dinner some time. I don't know if that's just talk to butter me up though?

    Would anyone have an opinion on this? I would have thought a relationship with a girl who is 10 years younger than you would generally be frowned upon.


    I'm 33 and just so you know, men my age are mostly attracted to younger girls. Why? They are more attractive, usually slimmer, more dainty, more fun, full of optimism, have less baggage, and are not looking to have babies or obsessed with marriage.

    Best age is 22-26

    younger girls rock :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Op_here wrote: »
    ...
    I have had my heart broken too many times so yes, I am wary of guy's intentions on dates. In my experience they have only wanted one thing and when I wasn't prepared to sleep with them so soon they have cut contact. I guess I am hyper cautious now as I do not want my heart to be broken again - as in, if I go through the effort of getting all dolled up etc to find out he doesn't want to see me again because I won't go home with him. That would crush me. I am trying to avoid that from happening, hence I am posting here.
    It's the same risk whether he is 23, 33, or 43. He might be asking you out because he wants sex and is not interested in a relationship. Or he might be very interested in getting to know you as a person.

    I really hope that you would not feel crushed if you went out with a man (of any age) and nothing further came of it because you didn't want to hop into bed with him on a first date. Disappointed: yes; crushed: that's serious over-reaction.

    Perhaps you invest too much in first dates. Treat them as opportunities to find out if there is a basis for further involvement. You are sizing one another up, but in a friendly way. There is a small risk involved, the risk that one or other or both of you might be disappointed. That's all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I find your opening post a little insulting, to be honest. He's not 63, he's 33. Why would he just be after sex - no more than any other age group?! I met my now husband when I was 21 and he was 31, we're together over 11 years. Why is it so weird?! You're an adult at 23. I'd be a bit concerned if you were 16 or 17 and he was interested, but at 23 and 33 - I don't see an issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭falan


    I say go for it! Im a 34 year old man in a 7 month relationship with an 19 year old. I never ever saw this coming. Ive gone out with girls older than me and younger but this is by far the youngest. She honestly doesn't seem like she's 19 at all. We just click....


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 42,362 Mod ✭✭✭✭Beruthiel


    I would have thought a relationship with a girl who is 10 years younger than you would generally be frowned upon.

    Who's doing all this frowning...?
    My hubby is 8 years younger than me, it's never been an issue.
    Relax and just enjoy the dates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭changeling


    falan wrote: »
    I say go for it! Im a 34 year old man in a 7 month relationship with an 19 year old. I never ever saw this coming. Ive gone out with girls older than me and younger but this is by far the youngest. She honestly doesn't seem like she's 19 at all. We just click....


    34 year old with a 19 year old?

    If you just 'click' then I reckon your emotional maturity is that of a 19 year old.
    And please no comments about 'mature' 19 year olds, they are still only 19.

    Aren't you just a little bit embarrassed about dating a 19 year old?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭ElleEm


    changeling wrote: »
    34 year old with a 19 year old?

    If you just 'click' then I reckon your emotional maturity is that of a 19 year old.
    And please no comments about 'mature' 19 year olds, they are still only 19.

    Aren't you just a little bit embarrassed about dating a 19 year old?

    What a judgemental post! The above is none of your business, and isn't helping the OP in any way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    Op_here wrote: »
    I slipped up by saying "girl". I didn't expect such a shocked reaction to my post.
    I'd call it a Freudian slip, myself. If distant memory serves, even though one is legally an adult from 18, both our level of maturity and self-image takes a while to catch up and it can be our mid-twenties before we truly see ourselves as adults, rather than overgrown teenagers.
    I have had my heart broken too many times so yes, I am wary of guy's intentions on dates. In my experience they have only wanted one thing and when I wasn't prepared to sleep with them so soon they have cut contact.
    Well you're going to have that danger with a 20-year old guy too. You might argue that being older, he has certain expectations about sex that a younger man may not have, but at the same time, when older men tend to place a greater emphasis on relationships than younger men - they've played the field and are more likely ready to settle down.

    It really comes down to his tolerances and expectations, just as it would with any man of any age.
    changeling wrote: »
    Aren't you just a little bit embarrassed about dating a 19 year old?
    I doubt he needs to be with people like you being embarrassed for him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭changeling


    ElleEm wrote: »
    What a judgemental post! The above is none of your business, and isn't helping the OP in any way.


    True. Thanks for your judgement , I knew that when I was posting - would delete it if I could, regret it now , as I truly don't care about a 34 year old who dates a 19 year old girl:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭falan


    changeling wrote: »
    34 year old with a 19 year old?

    If you just 'click' then I reckon your emotional maturity is that of a 19 year old.
    And please no comments about 'mature' 19 year olds, they are still only 19.

    Aren't you just a little bit embarrassed about dating a 19 year old?
    No I don't really care
    Tbh. Her family don't care and neither do mine. Ive only had one negative from a 24 year old female friend about it but then again she isn't one of my good friends so her opinion means nothing to me. I do what makes me happy.:-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    i met my GF when i was 34 and she was 23. we've been going strong for a year now and and are moving in together in another 3 months all going to plan.

    if you like him then go for it, you never know what could happen!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭lima


    falan wrote: »
    No I don't really care
    Tbh. Her family don't care and neither do mine. Ive only had one negative from a 24 year old female friend about it but then again she isn't one of my good friends so her opinion means nothing to me. I do what makes me happy.:-)


    Your friend was probably jealous as it really confuses girls as to why a guy would like a younger girl.

    Younger girls are hotter and more fun to be around. They don't moan, want to get married or have babies. They just want to dress well and enjoy life. In fact, I'mm 33 and I don't communicate with girls my age.


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    lima,

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭denhaagenite


    I've spoken to a friend of mine about this recently, as he is 31 and just come out of a relationship with a 21 year old.

    My husband is only 5 years older than me and I have to admit that when I started seeing him, I had a certain amount of subconscious respect for his maturity. I maybe agreed to things because I trusted that he knew a little bit better. It wasn't because he's a domineering person, in fact he is quite passive, but I think I may have been a bit submissive to his age.

    My friends girlfriend was great and really fun to be around (tbh I'm really going to miss her) but I always got the feeling she was going along with some things that we said or did for the same reasons as above. For example, my friend saw one future for the relationship which she verbally agreed with but it was ultimately the reason for their separation.

    Obviously you're not going to be thinking that far ahead at this stage, but I thought I might throw my two cents in as it's something that's come up recently :).

    Bottom line is- know your own mind and what you want, and age is irrelevant. Don't just get carried along or you will later regret things...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    OP I think it's understandable because of your past experience that you might be questioning this and even overthinking it, trying to put as many negative spins on it as possible so that you can say to yourself you were right all along when it inevitably doesn't work out.

    I say inevitably because you're already putting up barriers and the guy only asked you to accompany him for dinner! This might not be what he considers a date at all and perhaps would just enjoy the pleasure of your company and getting to know you beyond the odd small talk you'd exchanged in passing.

    You're jumping three steps ahead OP and already shooting this guy down before you've even given him a chance. You might pleasantly surprise yourself if you let the barriers down just a little and stop thinking of all the reasons why you DON'T want to go to dinner with him.

    I mean, you always have the option of simply saying "no thank you" and letting him move on to someone who might be more interested in the pleasure of HIS company rather than just making out there must be an ulterior motive for a guy asking you to accompany him to dinner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Hi OP. I went out with a guy 10 years older than me at your age. Same age gap you're talking about. We broke because I actually felt more mature and "sorted" than he was in many ways (I was living away from home and supporting myself at this stage and he wasn't, for example). And I remember he'd introduce me to people as his future wife, which scared the life out of me but was probably natural enough for a guy his age to be thinking about getting married and settling down....although he said it 2 weeks after meeting me which I reckon meant he wasn't all that mature. Who knows. In the end, the age itself wasn't the problem, it was the fact that both of us were in different stages in our lives and we weren't on the same wavelength in terms of maturity. Being older doesn't mean the person will necessarily be maturer as I learned from my experience.


    My current fella is, again, 10 years older than me (I'm 33 now) and I'd say were on the same page. I've calmed down a lot after a mad 20s and am more into my daytime fun now. And him being Spanish, maturity in the sense of settling down (not mental maturity) is behind Ireland, so a man in his 40s from Spain would probably equate to a woman in her erly 30s in Ireland in terms of the "getting a career and family" stuff.

    It's not the age, it's where you both are in your lives. Go out with him and test the waters if you like the guy. And an older man is not more inclined to only want one thing (I've gone out with several older guys). If you feel you're his equal in terms of maturity and where you are in your lives and what you want out of it, that's a good sign. If you don't feel on par and out of your depth, don't bother. That's my advice.

    Good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ViveLaVie


    If you're not comfortable with the age gap, don't do it. Personally, I would not consider dating a 35 year old. Even though I am 25 and considered an adult, I don't have a job, I'm still a student, I live at home with my parents and I've never been properly independent yet. A 35 year old is on a whole different wavelength to me.

    As well as that, I want to enjoy life for a few years and I don't want to get overly serious and settle down earlier because he is older and therefore wants to.

    For me, the gap is too big and I would question the maturity level and motives of a guy that age who wanted to date ME because I'm basically a child in comparison (living at home, still dependent on parents, no car or career etc) but I know it works for others. I think it depends on where you are in life and your own opinion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    lima wrote: »
    Your friend was probably jealous as it really confuses girls as to why a guy would like a younger girl.

    Younger girls are hotter and more fun to be around. They don't moan, want to get married or have babies. They just want to dress well and enjoy life. In fact, I'mm 33 and I don't communicate with girls my age.

    That's horribly judgemental. I personally would find it strange for a 19 year old girl to be dating a 34 year old man but they're both over 18 and if nobody is getting hurt it's fine.

    I find it worrying that so many men want to date much younger women, citing the reason that younger women don't want babies and want to have fun instead. Not all girls in their 20s are like this. Ironically women are at their most fertile in their 20s therefore the risk of unexpected pregnancy is highest. Do these men ever see themselves settling down and having a family? Indeed, it seems that there are more girls in their 20s who want to settle down and have children than there are men in their 30s and 40s who want to do so let alone men in their 20s. Apparently for every 1 woman who emigrates 2 men emigrate so maybe this is why there are so many girls in their 20s willing to date older men. All the men their own age have gone.

    OK, I'm going off topic here.

    OP, there is nothing wrong with a 10 year age gap and if you and he are comfortable with it and like each other what's the problem? Don't let this come between you and a nice guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭Quiet Girl


    Age is only a number, im 21 and I had a three year relationship with someone 11 years my senior. We never let the gap bother and yes we both got stick from our friends but we didnt care. I say go for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    I think perhaps your problem is you have a very immature social stigma image in your head of a 33 year old, or anyone in their thirties. My fiance will be 30 early next year, and I am still in my mid 20s. Granted, the age gap isn't that big, but trust me - when you are a few years older (ie over the 25 mark), youll realise how close 30 is to 20 :P

    He likely listened to the same music, watched the same TV shows, remembers the same historical and cultural incidents of the time and will have been brought up in a similar manner to you. I found that all of the men I dated my own age over the past few years were horrid immature, and had this awful notion of how best to deal with a woman in a relationship. Older men, in general (Im aware there are bound to be exceptions) are more mature, respectful, independant, culturally diverse and open to different things and levels of relationships.

    I have never been asked out to dinner by a 23 year old. In fact, no man my own age that I have went out with has invited me out to dinner! In my experience, the ulterior motive usually coincides with meeting in a pub or some other neutral, crowded area where talking is difficult, but loosening you up is not :p To be honest, he sounds like he might be quite charming!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    I think perhaps your problem is you have a very immature social stigma image in your head of a 33 year old, or anyone in their thirties.

    I found that all of the men I dated my own age over the past few years were horrid immature, and had this awful notion of how best to deal with a woman in a relationship. Older men, in general (Im aware there are bound to be exceptions) are more mature, respectful, independant, culturally diverse and open to different things and levels of relationships.

    OP here.

    I apologise to those who took offense. Explaining myself clearly isn't quite my forte! :)

    ShaShaBear - I could have written that myself. I am delighted that he asked me out. I don't have a problem with the age at all, apologies if it came across that way. Like yourself, I'd much rather date an older man as I find men my age to be immature.

    I think I know what my problem is - I am expecting the worst and am making assumptions which is unfair - solely because I am afraid of been hurt. As others have said - just relax and go on the date which is what I plan on doing. My problem was - I was of the mindset that the age gap was too big hence there must have been an ulterior motive - which I now realise is not the case.

    It doesn't even look like the date will go ahead now anyway as he seems to have cut contact (haven't heard from him in over a week) or is simple "playing the game". And to those who might say "text him!" - my answer is no. I always find myself sending the last text where I might ask a question to which he just leaves me in limbo. Perhaps he was only after an ego boost who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    Op_here wrote: »
    OP here.

    I apologise to those who took offense. Explaining myself clearly isn't quite my forte! :)

    ShaShaBear - I could have written that myself. I am delighted that he asked me out. I don't have a problem with the age at all, apologies if it came across that way. Like yourself, I'd much rather date an older man as I find men my age to be immature.

    I think I know what my problem is - I am expecting the worst and am making assumptions which is unfair - solely because I am afraid of been hurt. As others have said - just relax and go on the date which is what I plan on doing. My problem was - I was of the mindset that the age gap was too big hence there must have been an ulterior motive - which I now realise is not the case.

    It doesn't even look like the date will go ahead now anyway as he seems to have cut contact (haven't heard from him in over a week) or is simple "playing the game". And to those who might say "text him!" - my answer is no. I always find myself sending the last text where I might ask a question to which he just leaves me in limbo. Perhaps he was only after an ego boost who knows.

    Its possible he's busy, or may have gotten the impression that you weren't that interested. I would suggest a quick how are you text, just to see if he responds. If its a case that he's giving you space because he thinks you're not interested, he'll likely jump on the opportunity. If he's playing games/cutting contact, he'll likely not answer, at least not within the day. But I would honestly find it very odd that a man of that age would still be up to teenage tricks!

    I get the feeling you might be very like me, so I suggest the casual text, simply because if you don't, in another week or two you'll be head-wrecked wondering if you put him off by being cool about the date over not wanting to get your feelings hurt, or that if you had texted him soon after you stopped talking it would look less weird, and what if, and I can't text him now because its been too long and I dont want to look desperate. Even try something like "Hey, hows things? Myself and a couple of girlfriends are looking to head out to dinner, what was the name of that place that you mentioned to me the other day?" Its not in any real way related to your date with him, but gives him the opportunity to answer you in two ways - cool and uninterested or warm and positively interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    Its possible he's busy, or may have gotten the impression that you weren't that interested. I would suggest a quick how are you text, just to see if he responds. If its a case that he's giving you space because he thinks you're not interested, he'll likely jump on the opportunity. If he's playing games/cutting contact, he'll likely not answer, at least not within the day. But I would honestly find it very odd that a man of that age would still be up to teenage tricks!

    I did exactly as you said and he chose not to respond.

    Bizarre how common this is.. a guy asking a girl out then when she says yes they vanish.

    Seems to be the latest trend in this thread.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    I may be able to shed light on this 'trend'. I have a friend who asked out a 23 year old for drinks, she said yes and appeared to be well into him. He was 47 at the time, but in fairness a very fit, good looking and charming 47.

    In the end he chickened out. He never explained why (avoided doing so), but I think part of it was that he never thought she'd say yes and panicked when she did. Utterly daft, IMHO - least he could do is turn up and buy her a drink.

    Not sure who said this, but it probably sums it up: "I've reached an age where I'm flattered when a woman says yes and relieved when she says no."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    Op_here wrote: »
    I did exactly as you said and he chose not to respond.

    Bizarre how common this is.. a guy asking a girl out then when she says yes they vanish.

    Seems to be the latest trend in this thread.

    I think this is a trait unique to Irish men. There's an excuse for it when they're younger and supposedly more insecure, but for an older man to behave this way is unforgiveable. The Corinthian's friend defies belief. At his age he would have no problem finding a relationship, if he wanted one but clearly he doesn't. He just wants to validate himself through younger women and there are many other men like him.

    I have always found foreign men to be more upfront and if they ask you out they generally mean it and follow through. In my experience it's definitely an Irish thing for a man to muck about with a girl by asking her out and then disappearing. No wonder some Irish women are standoffish and defensive around men!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Emme wrote: »
    I think this is a trait unique to Irish men. There's an excuse for it when they're younger and supposedly more insecure, but for an older man to behave this way is unforgiveable. The Corinthian's friend defies belief. At his age he would have no problem finding a relationship, if he wanted one but clearly he doesn't. He just wants to validate himself through younger women and there are many other men like him.

    I have always found foreign men to be more upfront and if they ask you out they generally mean it and follow through. In my experience it's definitely an Irish thing for a man to muck about with a girl by asking her out and then disappearing. No wonder some Irish women are standoffish and defensive around men!


    While I'd completely agree with your assessment of The Corinthian's friend, your assessment Emme of, well Irish men/Foreign men is, putting it politely- badly flawed and understandably misguided.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,914 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Ok, this thread is in danger of turning into a general discussion on Irish Men V Rest of the World. So I think we'll leave it there. OP, you seem to have gotten what you asked for from the thread, and your issue has been resolved - even if it wasn't a satisfactory end.

    If at any time in the future you need the thread reopened to ask further advice on this matter, please contact any of the PI Mods, who will be happy to help.

    All the best,
    Big Bag of Chips

    Edit: The Corinthian has been in touch to point out that his friend isn't Irish.... So playing silly games isn't the sole preserve of Irish men ;)


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