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Wheel spoking

  • 19-05-2013 8:49pm
    #1
    wotdef
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭


    I'm building up a pair of wheels with 24 front and 28 rear. I want them to be stiff yet have a reasonable amount of comfort to them. I was thinking 1x on the front and 1x and 3x on the rear. They will be sub 1500g and may or may not be used for racing. Any input would be greatly appreciated.


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  • #2
    The Big Lebowsky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭The Big Lebowsky


    Personally I would go 2X on the rear wheel with 28 spokes. the shorter spokes will make for a slightly more rigid wheel. It depends how much do you weigh, and what purpose intend to use your new wheels...

    If you are over 70kgs then a deeper rim will be required to support a low spoke count...28- 30mm deep rims are best.....but this will be at the expense of some ride comfort.

    I hear some great reports about the Kinlin XC-279....this rim is 28mm deep...and 23mm wide....The advantage of using wider rims are less rolling resistance, lower tyre pressure, increased comfort...
    They give your 23mm tyres a rounder profile that dials out high frequency vibration very well, with no apparent loss of performance..


    I'm using velocity A23 32h 3X....but I'm 95kgs...

    http://fairwheelbikes.com/c/products/2013-rim-roundup.html#more-3382


  • #3
    wotdef
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭wotdef


    Thanks for that. Forgot to say I'm 62kg. I'll be using Stan's Alpha 340 rims.


  • #4
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    wotdef wrote: »
    Thanks for that. Forgot to say I'm 62kg. I'll be using Stan's Alpha 340 rims.

    FWIW, I had a pair of ZTR Crest handbuilts, not a good experience. They were built up by a good wheelbuilder whose other wheels have remained dead true, but these didn't. I was 68kg at the time. The rims are currently living a lonely existence in my shed after I switched back to Open Pros.

    Aside from the lack of trueness, tyre fitting was an absolute ballache.

    Hope yours work out better!


  • #5
    The Big Lebowsky
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭The Big Lebowsky


    I would suggest you avoid the stans alpha 340...the spoke bed was far to thin on those rims...seen lots of failures....

    The stans alpha 400 is a much more durable rim....it's only 50 grams more than the stans alpha 340

    http://www.wheelbuilder.com/stans-notubes-ztr-alpha-400-rim.html


  • #6
    wotdef
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭wotdef


    Lumen wrote: »
    FWIW, I had a pair of ZTR Crest handbuilts, not a good experience. They were built up by a good wheelbuilder whose other wheels have remained dead true, but these didn't. I was 68kg at the time. The rims are currently living a lonely existence in my shed after I switched back to Open Pros.

    Aside from the lack of trueness, tyre fitting was an absolute ballache.

    Hope yours work out better!

    I have Crests on my mtb wheels. Only problem was when I forgot to put a bit more pressure in the rear before a spin over water bars. Nice ding but still holds air no problem.


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  • #7
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    at 62kg Id go for 20f, 24r


  • #8
    wotdef
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭wotdef


    The Big Lebowsky wrote: »
    I would suggest you avoid the stans alpha 340...the spoke bed was far to thin on those rims...seen lots of failures....

    The stans alpha 400 is a much more durable rim....it's only 50 grams more than the stans alpha 340

    http://www.wheelbuilder.com/stans-notubes-ztr-alpha-400-rim.html

    Thanks for that. Will definitely look at the 400s. No point in risking any problems for the sake of 100g.


  • #9
    wotdef
    Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭wotdef


    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    at 62kg Id go for 20f, 24r
    Ta, but I already have the hubs. And my apologies if I have caused any confusion about my question, it's the lacing I'm asking about.


  • #10
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    just go with radial front, no need for 1 cross, unless its a hub not designed for radial lacing. most modern hubs can deal with the extra stresses of radial spokes

    28h 3 cross would be recomended if you were heavier, the hub was low flange and the rim was shallow. 2 cross for the rear would be optimal in your case. Im alot heavier than you and have 28h 2 cross for my rear, tho the hub is large flange with wide bladed spokes.


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