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People who are not the full shilling??

  • 17-05-2013 3:45pm
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    Does anyone have an experiences with people who are, in a term that is used a lot, psycho? It's just that I have a lot of people in my life who act a bit off, and I just want to see if from people's own stories if they had psycho's in the lives and how they dealt with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    They're everywhere


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    I bumped into Jim Corr in a Mother Hubbards one Monday afternoon.

    Does that count?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    OP, I don't think it means what you think it means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Once you learn to accept that everyone is mental in their own unique way then you can be a lot more tolerant of people.... most people anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    rox5 wrote: »
    Does anyone have an experiences with people who are, in a term that is used a lot, psycho? It's just that I have a lot of people in my life who act a bit off, and I just want to see if from people's own stories if they had psycho's in the lives and how they dealt with it.

    What do you call "off"?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Hownowcow


    As distinct from "harmless"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭rox5


    kneemos wrote: »
    What do you call "off"?

    As in: a girl I knew who texted a guy she knew only for three days when she decided she wanted to move to his hometown and have his baby and she told him this. He stopped texting after that, so yeah that sort of "off".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭paddydriver


    Hector from Blue Bloods last night was fairly messed up in the head... trying to shoot the mayor of NY!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Weird does not mean the same thing as mental illness. A lot of people suffering from mental illnesses or psychiatric conditions are completely functional while people who are weird can be completely healthy in the head. Assuming the two are connected trivialises the reality of mental illness imo.

    I'm not saying that some people who are weird aren't also mental, but being "a bit off" isn't what I'd consider a diagnostic criteria.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Pug160


    rox5 wrote: »
    Does anyone have an experiences with people who are, in a term that is used a lot, psycho? It's just that I have a lot of people in my life who act a bit off, and I just want to see if from people's own stories if they had psycho's in the lives and how they dealt with it.

    Psycho as in mentally unstable? Well if that's the case you should be trying to keep them at arm's length.

    As for people ''who are not the full shilling'', meh, it's subjective. A crazy person to someone can be a lovable eccentric to another person. There are a lot of misunderstood people, and it's one tack mindedness that causes it. That's society's problem, not an individual's.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,697 ✭✭✭Lisha


    rox5 wrote: »
    As in: a girl I knew who texted a guy she knew only for three days when she decided she wanted to move to his hometown and have his baby and she told him this. He stopped texting after that, so yeah that sort of "off".

    But she loooovvvveees him :)


    Maybe though he was freaking her out and she knew that laying the whole '2gether 4eva + tinnnyy baabbies' thang would vanish him double quick


    Maybe he the crazy one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    rox5 wrote: »
    As in: a girl I knew who texted a guy she knew only for three days when she decided she wanted to move to his hometown and have his baby and she told him this. He stopped texting after that, so yeah that sort of "off".

    I think the bigger question here, and one that is not asked often enough in my opinion, is "was she hot?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Get new friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    rox5 wrote: »
    Does anyone have an experiences with people who are, in a term that is used a lot, psycho? It's just that I have a lot of people in my life who act a bit off, and I just want to see if from people's own stories if they had psycho's in the lives and how they dealt with it.

    There is more people that are a bit 'off' than normal???


    I wanna be delicate about this,but it sounds like you are a member of the crazies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Pug160


    Nabber wrote: »
    There is more people that are a bit 'off' than normal???


    I wanna be delicate about this,but it sounds like you are a member of the crazies.

    This is not directed at the original poster as I don't know him or her, but in my view the philosophy that more people are weird than 'normal' is something that quite a lot of chavs and/or unenlightened people would share. In their world lots of things are weird. Wearing certain types of clothing is weird, reading a book could be weird, being quiet could be weird. Lots of things that are seemingly not weird, is in their view, actually weird.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    rox5 wrote: »
    Does anyone have an experiences with people who are, in a term that is used a lot, psycho? It's just that I have a lot of people in my life who act a bit off, and I just want to see if from people's own stories if they had psycho's in the lives and how they dealt with it.


    My best friends are the unconventional types, it's not that they don't give a shìt, they're just not "aware" of how unconventional they are. They're also incredibly loyal as friends, and great fun to be around because they push me well out of my reserved comfort zone :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,061 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    People who are not the full shilling??

    1. 50 Cent. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Hownowcow


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    1. 50 Cent. :cool:

    IR£0 1s 0d = IR£0.05 = €0.0.063486904

    I've little to be doing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    I'm surrounded by them. The terrace has a high proportion of loons on it. Its fascinating to watch them do their thing sometimes. Bat shít crazy..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭rox5


    orestes wrote: »
    Weird does not mean the same thing as mental illness. A lot of people suffering from mental illnesses or psychiatric conditions are completely functional while people who are weird can be completely healthy in the head. Assuming the two are connected trivialises the reality of mental illness imo.

    I'm not saying that some people who are weird aren't also mental, but being "a bit off" isn't what I'd consider a diagnostic criteria.

    I didn't mean as in weird people. I am weird myself, and I know other people who would be known as "weird" and I like them because you can talk and hang with them without feeling judged and you can be yourself.

    When I mean "off" I meant in the sense of, for example, a person texting someone who clearly stated that they are not interested in you, but yet the person would still send you texts because for some reason, they cannot accept the word "no."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    rox5 wrote: »
    I didn't mean as in weird people. I am weird myself, and I know other people who would be known as "weird" and I like them because you can talk and hang with them without feeling judged and you can be yourself.

    When I mean "off" I meant in the sense of, for example, a person texting someone who clearly stated that they are not interested in you, but yet the person would still send you texts because for some reason, they cannot accept the word "no."

    Sounds like a simple infatuation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭rox5


    Nabber wrote: »
    There is more people that are a bit 'off' than normal???


    I wanna be delicate about this,but it sounds like you are a member of the crazies.


    Again, I know that not everyone is normal, I know and love people who are eccentric, but I mean by "off" and "not the full shilling" is those people who cannot accept the word no, and can constantly haress a person because they are obsessed with them.

    Trust me, I used to think that I was a bit crazy myself, but people say that if you are aware of it, you cannot be crazy, because crazy people are ignorant of the fact they are crazy. (Wow, I said crazy a lot there!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭rox5


    kneemos wrote: »
    Sounds like a simple infatuation.

    Not when the other person gets freaked out. Happened to me as well by this guy who hunts down girl's numbers and would text and call me, even when I screamed the word "NO! NO! NO!" in a text once. Got so freaked out that I had to threated him with the gardai to get him to stop, and also got his number blocked too just in case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    rox5 wrote: »
    I didn't mean as in weird people. I am weird myself, and I know other people who would be known as "weird" and I like them because you can talk and hang with them without feeling judged and you can be yourself.

    When I mean "off" I meant in the sense of, for example, a person texting someone who clearly stated that they are not interested in you, but yet the person would still send you texts because for some reason, they cannot accept the word "no."

    Is this all gearing towards you telling us that some guy just won't leave you alone even though you like OMG! told him SO many times that you, like, totally aren't interested, like, hello, WEIRDO!

    Edit:
    rox5 wrote: »
    Not when the other person gets freaked out. Happened to me as well by this guy who hunts down girl's numbers and would text and call me, even when I screamed the word "NO! NO! NO!" in a text once. Got so freaked out that I had to threated him with the gardai to get him to stop, and also got his number blocked too just in case.

    Ah, I sees. Never mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    rox5 wrote: »
    Not when the other person gets freaked out. Happened to me as well by this guy who hunts down girl's numbers and would text and call me, even when I screamed the word "NO! NO! NO!" in a text once. Got so freaked out that I had to threated him with the gardai to get him to stop, and also got his number blocked too just in case.


    That sounds more like full on creepy bastard than just plain old harmless crazy fcuk tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Jung, the psychoanalyst, keeps me sane. The auld 'civilization' is a thin veil recently invented.. You'll see it whenever anyone's under pressure.. I call it 'bringing out the worst in myself'.. As for others... :[


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 240 ✭✭The Barefoot Pizza Thief


    I subscribe to Seal's sentiments in that song Crazy. Now, I know he has since managed to break up with a very hot woman and so this might perhaps suggest that maybe he was wrong about the positive aspects of craziness but I still subscribe to his original thinking, even if he himself now has changed his mind and indeed, gone on to be sectioned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    I know one guy from childhood days , now middle aged who regularly informs his 1500+ friends on Facebook as the '' latest project '' he has in mind ,which has nothing to do with the reality of undertaking the project in question and truth be told , is really just about wanting his ego massaged .

    He could be termed ''borderline sociopath '' but to my mind he is simply sad ,perhaps lonely in that he needs constant approval and not the full shilling.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 352 ✭✭Bertie Woot


    rox5 wrote: »
    Does anyone have an experiences with people who are, in a term that is used a lot, psycho? It's just that I have a lot of people in my life who act a bit off, and I just want to see if from people's own stories if they had psycho's in the lives and how they dealt with it.

    Jeez, where do I begin? I know you're using the term "psycho" casually, and to refer to someone who is, to use another phrase, "a bit nuts". But psychopaths really do exist, and they're not exclusively the stuff of Hollywood movies:

    http://www.oregoncounseling.org/Handouts/PsychopathicPersonality.htm

    And yes, I have met quite a few.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,404 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    galway has to have the biggest selection of strange individuals per capita anywhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    an old guy in my town shouts and waves at cars going over the bridge. just rambling about god knows what. i see him doing it at least once a month in the same spot lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    Schizotypal disorder you mean?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 341 ✭✭Hownowcow


    an old guy in my town shouts and waves at cars going over the bridge. just rambling about god knows what. i see him doing it at least once a month in the same spot lol

    There was a woman, who always carried a big blue bag over her shoulder, used to do the same thing in the Church Street area of Dublin a number of years ago. However I don't think this is the sort of person the OP had in mind. An unfortunate more to be pitied.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,005 ✭✭✭Ann22


    I think I know what the op means. I worked in a place once where there were 3 women who weren't all there. Perfectly intelligent and articulate but compulsive liars. Strange, strange individuals. No close mates but were everybody's best friend. Made up stuff for attention, sad really, even fabricated stuff about close family members with serious illnessess:(.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    There are very few sane people on this planet imo. If people do not fit in with the norm or the majority they are seen as different or weird or even downright mad. Maybe if you are part of the norm/majority you should have a little think about it, are we the mad ones?

    That said there are people who are just crazy and liable to do anything and thats a different kettle of fish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,670 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Weird people are generally more interesting. But I think the OP means hen they become scary or obsessive and don't recognise certain social queues.

    They may not even be bad. there's a girl I work with. Scary eyes and every conversation with her becomes really intense. even if it's just about the weather. She's actually a quite nice person, but jaysus she's a bit freaky.

    Then there are others like that who aren't nice. They're really scary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Colours


    I subscribe to Seal's sentiments in that song Crazy...even if he himself now has changed his mind...

    Barefoot Pizza Thief, I think you mean even if he's lost his mind.

    All these euphemisms for being a bit touched has reminded me of the Queen song "I'm going Slightly Mad" which has begun to play in my mind (or what's left of it).

    "...It's finally happened - I'm slightly mad... tra laa la la"

    It's a good song actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    rox5 wrote: »
    As in: a girl I knew who texted a guy she knew only for three days when she decided she wanted to move to his hometown and have his baby and she told him this. He stopped texting after that, so yeah that sort of "off".


    Have you her number?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭MickFleetwood


    I once knew a literal psychopath. Not somebody who was a bit mad or even full on fúcking insane; a genuine sociopath. Antisocial Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, the works.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    There's the people who shout and answer back the self service checkout


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Colours


    I once knew a literal psychopath. Not somebody who was a bit mad or even full on fúcking insane; a genuine sociopath. Antisocial Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, the works.

    Was this person a CEO by any chance? With qualities like that a person can rise to the top in the multinational dysfunctional corporation arena!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Mariasofia


    Right now you could be describing me or
    A few slices short of the full pan or
    A few cards short of a full deck or
    A pint of milk without the cream on top .... Haha
    Or basically (sp) full of Pinot grigio ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭StillWaters


    Not the full shilling = An old fashioned term for someone who is eccentric, in modern terms, perhaps someone who is on the autism spectrum.
    Psycho= An old fashioned term for someone who is mentally ill


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭rox5


    Ann22 wrote: »
    I think I know what the op means. I worked in a place once where there were 3 women who weren't all there. Perfectly intelligent and articulate but compulsive liars. Strange, strange individuals. No close mates but were everybody's best friend. Made up stuff for attention, sad really, even fabricated stuff about close family members with serious illnessess:(.

    Yep this is what I meant here, the type who make up disturbing stuff to get attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    galway has to have the biggest selection of strange individuals per capita anywhere


    Strange and wonderful!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Colours


    Not the full shilling = An old fashioned term for someone who is eccentric, in modern terms, perhaps someone who is on the autism spectrum.
    Psycho= An old fashioned term for someone who is mentally ill

    A couple of centuries back "imbecile" was the term for someone with a mental illness and members of the public used to pay money to go into the psychiatric hospitals - or lunatic asylums as they were called then - to be entertained by the "freak show" that was these poor people's lives.

    Mental illness is one of the last of society's taboos which still remains intact because mindsets of a large part of society has not evolved sufficiently to see that - just as there is no strict division of black and white or straight and "bent" - there is no sane and no mad, but rather a sliding scale on a spectrum on which every one of us shifts about on throughout our lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭MickFleetwood


    Colours wrote: »
    Was this person a CEO by any chance? With qualities like that a person can rise to the top in the multinational dysfunctional corporation arena!

    No, she was not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Everyone is a bit crazy to some extent. It's just that some people aren't as good at hiding it as the rest of us.

    I've encountered a fair number of people with sociopathic and narcissistic traits.


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